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Started by MendoDave, December 07, 2011, 06:28:56 AM

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Quote from: Drunken Monkey on December 12, 2011, 09:25:03 PM
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Today the troublemaker in my daughter's kindergarten class got sent to the principal's office for his usual bullshit (he's 7, he's a bully, he acts out, takes way more time out of the class, etc.)

Rather than take his punishment, he bolted out of the principal's office, ran to the class, burst in the door, picked up a stick and beaned a random kid with it (smiling the whole time)

The random kid was my daughter.

He got a 3 day suspension.

I hope someone finds an excuse to punt this kid from school. If it's for sexual harassment for calling the teacher cute or punching a kid in the nuts... well, either would work for me.

As someone said before, nobody knows the backstory.




I hope your daughter is OK.  True about the back story, but that does not, IMO, justify the fix .  From the way you describe the offender (little bastard) there is an issue going on here.  If this child  (little bastard) is not dealt with properly more people will be hurt or worse.  A three day suspension clearly is not the answer nor is trumped up charges. 

I am not going to pretend I know the answer in this case, but I do know this kid needs to be removed from the conventional classroom until, if ever, a behavioral solution is found.

Drunken Monkey

The problem kid was already seeing two separate behavioral specialists, so it's not like the school isn't doing anything. In fact it's doing all it can for the bad kid.

Would that the same could be said for the other kids in the class.

I'm all for him getting the help he needs. Just do it far away from kids who want to learn.

Quote from: ducatiz on December 13, 2011, 07:05:32 AM
Kids are bizarre things.

I dunno. After almost 6 years with mine my working theory is they are like adults, only unfiltered.
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Quote from: Drunken Monkey on December 13, 2011, 07:50:02 AM
I dunno. After almost 6 years with mine my working theory is they are like adults, only unfiltered.

I think more than unfiltered.  Bear in mind they are still learning the laws of physics as well.  lol
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Quote from: ducatiz on December 13, 2011, 08:01:34 AM
Bear in mind they are still learning the laws of physics as well.  lol

So are many adults  ;D
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As a nation we have spent the best part of the past century abdicating our responsibilities.

"I'm really busy. Besides, that's the ___________'s job."

Instead of dealing with anything as a family or community, simply turn it over to the schools, or the shrinks, or the courts...

Teachers are, by and large, good folk. However mass public education, as a system, is just another indifferent state bureaucracy.
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Wholeheartedly agree!

Quote from: zarn02 on December 13, 2011, 09:41:07 PM
Instead of dealing with anything as a family or community, simply turn it over to the schools, or the shrinks, or the courts...
and meds

Quote from: zarn02 on December 13, 2011, 09:41:07 PM
Teachers are, by and large, good folk. However mass public education, as a system, is just another indifferent state bureaucracy.
I believe teachers try their best, but raising children is not their responsibility and they do not get support from the parents.
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rgramjet

Plus the teacher and administrators hands are tied when it comes to disciplinary measures.  The truly evil kids know that and run with that tidbit of information.
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ducatiz

I just think that if I had done something like this when I was in school, I would have gotten a "paddling" from the principal and then when I got home, my dad would have tore me up with a belt. 

I think I did something like this only once.  My pop only had to spank me twice in my entire life.  That was enough for me.

Nowadays, the principal and my pop would have probably gone to prison. 
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Raux

Quote from: ducatiz on December 14, 2011, 07:34:15 AM
I just think that if I had done something like this when I was in school, I would have gotten a "paddling" from the principal and then when I got home, my dad would have tore me up with a belt. 

I think I did something like this only once.  My pop only had to spank me twice in my entire life.  That was enough for me.

Nowadays, the principal and my pop would have probably gone to prison. 

+1

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Quote from: ducatiz on December 14, 2011, 07:34:15 AM
I just think that if I had done something like this when I was in school, I would have gotten a "paddling" from the principal and then when I got home, my dad would have tore me up with a belt. 

I think I did something like this only once.  My pop only had to spank me twice in my entire life.  That was enough for me.

Nowadays, the principal and my pop would have probably gone to prison. 

When I was a kid in public school the Principal's paddle had holes drilled it so it made this bad ass sick whistle sound right before it popped you in the ass. But the big concern was what would happen when Dad got home! I will honestly say that I got far fewer whippings than I deserved. I'm way ahead of the curve on that count. [thumbsup] Hell. I still deserve a few! [laugh]
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ducatiz

Quote from: fastwin on December 14, 2011, 07:21:05 PM
When I was a kid in public school the Principal's paddle had holes drilled it so it made this bad ass sick whistle sound right before it popped you in the ass. But the big concern was what would happen when Dad got home! I will honestly say that I got far fewer whippings than I deserved. I'm way ahead of the curve on that count. [thumbsup] Hell. I still deserve a few! [laugh]

I feared my dad when he was angry at me.  He always gave me the chance to come clean, which mean no whipping, but I'd still get grounded.  Kept me on the straight and narrow for a long time, at least until I discovered booze, loose women and how to hotwire a '67 Mustang
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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

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Drunken Monkey

I could go off on a long tirade about how much schools are trying to boost everyone's self-esteem while at the same time more and more behavioral scientists say the problem with sociopaths is that they have too much self-esteem.

But I won't.

You just have to settle for this short tirade: Things are make the beast with two backsed up and bullshit.
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fastwin

End of thread. Drunken Monkey just summed it all up in 6 words. [thumbsup] [laugh] Gold medal award winner for short tirade. [beer]
I plan to list the Federal Gov't. as a dependent on my next 1040 tax filing!

I have flying honey badgers and I'm not afraid to use them!

The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."

CONFIDENCE: the feeling you have right before you understand the situation.