monster for a returning rider

[Betty]

  9 pages of the 'new-gen'-monster-guys trying to convince you what you want ... a hundred yards on a 'classic' and you're sold

I am not intending to make this an old vs. new style argument (just some gentle piss-taking ).

If you can absorb the extra maintenance costs ... the 4 valves are actually pretty easy to live with. Power is only an issue if you show no respect - clutch could be a bit heavy in traffic, but there are options to help there. Even with the protruding fridge the blue and white is dead sexy.

If you are enamoured with the S4R ... the only thing you need to do is have it serviced and enjoy the ride

[RC Fan]

Was the price reasonable on the S4R?  If so, get it!  It sounds like a beautiful bike.

[bdub]

Old monsters rule. Lot more pretty
I'm gonna say told ya

[Raux]

Ok maybe I'm in a bad mood but this is all bs
a full setup s4r vs a stock obviuosly poorly setup evo
and you're going to say winner?
Set th bikes up the same with the same amount of money put into them msrp wise not used vs new and the evo will not only surprise but win
the new monster will and does handle better
power wise you're going to sit there and say its even clos to a fair fight with a 4v vs 2v
put this as an s4r vs a sf and then talk shit

[bdub]

I see your point and am sure you are right.

[RC Fan]

Set th bikes up the same with the same amount of money put into them msrp wise not used vs new and the evo will not only surprise but win
the new monster will and does handle better

Will a dealer slap a $2000 exhaust system on for the sake of comparison?  They won't here.

[Betty]

the new monster will and does handle better

I won't argue with this but will counter by saying ... they handle differently - not necessarily better.

We ride differently and have different experiences and conditioning. The geometry and handling of one bike may be 'better' but it just may never feel 'right' for someone else.

[Duchess]

I didn't mean to start an "old vs new" holy war.

For me,  the ergonomics and economics work in favor of an S4R with full exhaust system, full carbon, pretty colors, the right gear ratios, ... yada yada ... that costs less than half what it would cost me to set the Evo up the same way.

I have good reason to believe that if I bought the Evo (11,000 after discount), added termi's (2,000), re-geared it, added carbon (1000) and blue/white skins (1000) that I would end up with a bike that would be just as good or better than the S4R I'm looking at. But then I would be at twice the $$ cost to me.

So the bikes are  probably equivalent functionally, or the Evo has points in its favor. BUT the S4R appeals to my heart in a way that the Evo doesn't (I love the "real" gauges, for example, compared to the "digital" on the Evo).

And this is all about the heart, nicht wahr ? Otherwise we would all be riding Honda's ...

Duchess

[RC Fan]

Please post pictures when you get it!

[muskrat]

Please post pictures when you get it!

+1

Again, get what feels right and always respect the bike or she'll reach out and bite you.

[Curmudgeon]

Curmudgeon,

I guess I really fell in love, huh ?

Ask the guys here whether the flaking rockers were fixed by 2004 and let them tell you about gauge and immobilizer issues with that set-up. Could be fine, but you have more reading to do. 

[Curmudgeon]

This...

Ok maybe I'm in a bad mood but this is all bs
a full setup s4r vs a stock obviuosly poorly setup evo
and you're going to say winner?
Set th bikes up the same with the same amount of money put into them msrp wise not used vs new and the evo will not only surprise but win
the new monster will and does handle better
power wise you're going to sit there and say its even clos to a fair fight with a 4v vs 2v
put this as an s4r vs a sf and then talk shit

And... " Have the dealer ride the evo then let him fix the thing.  something isnt set up right"

[Curmudgeon]

Will a dealer slap a $2000 exhaust system on for the sake of comparison?  They won't here.

Mine will and does. Almost got even MORE deaf (if that's possible) riding behind one on a demo ride.

[xsephirot]

There comes a point when you need to stop listening to people and just go with your heart.

[Moronic]

Well, three points from me this time.

1. I've not ridden one of the new 1100s but from looking and hearing they turn quicker and easier than the older style bikes. So, the EVO you rode was weird.

2. In another thread we looked at the power curves and it turned out the EVO would better any of the four-valve Monsters to 8000rpm or so, both in stock trim.

3. As the owner of an older-style 4-valve Monster, I can understand your instant infatuation with the S4R. With no previous use and at half the price of the EVO fully kitted, it is implausibly attractive. If it really does exist, then God wants you to have it. Do not invite plagues and pestilence by passing this one up. (I was going to recommend you try a 4Rs but you won't find one like that.)