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Started by Ducatamount, May 15, 2012, 03:24:04 AM

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May 15, 2012, 03:24:04 AM Last Edit: May 15, 2012, 03:34:51 AM by Ducatamount
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May 15, 2012, 03:27:48 AM Last Edit: May 15, 2012, 03:49:12 AM by ducpainter
link doesn't work for me. :-\

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does now. [thumbsup]
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May 15, 2012, 07:07:38 AM
no...but I think the FIA does have an age/health/fitness limitation
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May 15, 2012, 11:44:49 AM Last Edit: May 15, 2012, 11:52:16 AM by Triple J
Cool article.  [thumbsup]

Interesting that they talk about Bonneville, and show a map, but fail to mention that the current world speed record was done at the Black Rock Desert in Nevada because it apparently has a longer suitable area than Bonneville. All future records will likely be done there as well from what I understand.

I think the only real limit now on the record is space. Everything else can be engineered, but no matter what you have to have enough room to get up to speed and then to stop.

kopfjäger

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May 15, 2012, 11:55:54 AM
Quote from: Triple J on May 15, 2012, 11:44:49 AM
Cool article.  [thumbsup]

Interesting that they talk about Bonneville, and show a map, but fail to mention that the current world speed record was done at the Black Rock Desert in Nevada because it apparently has a longer suitable area than Bonneville. All future records will likely be done there as well from what I understand.

I think the only real limit now on the record is space. Everything else can be engineered, but no matter what you have to have enough room to get up to speed and then to stop.

Pretty cool on board from that day.


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kopfjäger

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May 15, 2012, 12:03:46 PM
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Ducatamount

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May 15, 2012, 12:19:52 PM
Black Rock Desert,Nev.  Huh,I did not know that.How does the surface compare to the salt flats?
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zooom

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May 15, 2012, 12:36:38 PM
Quote from: Ducatamount on May 15, 2012, 12:19:52 PM
Black Rock Desert,Nev.  Huh,I did not know that.How does the surface compare to the salt flats?

WELL...there is talk of the salt eroding, it dissapearing, and getting thin by many different reports...so I think there was a need to find an alternate location so as to be able to save and preserve the speed trials and keep them in America...

how it compares the surface or what the surface there is like...I don't know...but expansive space and flatness were the key things they were looking for...
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The Mad King Pepe'

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May 15, 2012, 01:00:15 PM
Quote from: Ducatamount on May 15, 2012, 03:24:04 AM
Is there a limit to how fast they can run?
When a plane goes transonic the sound waves are able to disperse in all directions, but when a land or water vehicle does some of the waves bounce off the surface and destabilize the vehicle. I am over simplifying a ton here, but this is a big part of what the boffins need to figure out.
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May 15, 2012, 01:07:04 PM Last Edit: May 15, 2012, 01:08:53 PM by Triple J
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on May 15, 2012, 01:00:15 PM
When a plane goes transonic the sound waves are able to disperse in all directions, but when a land or water vehicle does some of the waves bounce off the surface and destabilize the vehicle. I am over simplifying a ton here, but this is a big part of what the boffins need to figure out.

Should already be figured out since they've succesfully exceeded the speed of sound on land.

Quote from: Ducatamount on May 15, 2012, 12:19:52 PM
Black Rock Desert,Nev.  Huh,I did not know that.How does the surface compare to the salt flats?

Well, it's flat and expansive just like Bonneville. It's a dry lake bed as well, but isn't a salt layer, just a typical dry lake bed. It's nice when it's dry, unbelievably muddy and useless when wet. Very cool place to visit if you're ever in the area just because it is so unique and weird.

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May 15, 2012, 01:16:34 PM
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May 15, 2012, 01:38:57 PM
Quote from: Triple J on May 15, 2012, 01:07:04 PM
Should already be figured out since they've succesfully exceeded the speed of sound on land.
No.

Different aerodynamic shapes, different internal structures, it's not just copy and paste.
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May 15, 2012, 01:57:41 PM
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on May 15, 2012, 01:38:57 PM
No.

Different aerodynamic shapes, different internal structures, it's not just copy and paste.

Please explain.

As I understand it, transonic is the speed just before and just after the sound barrier is reached. Like Mach 0.8 to 1.2 or so (actual speed varies)...the condition when some, but not all, of the airflow around the vehicle is supersonic. Since the last speed attempt successfully exceeded Mach 1.0 it would seem they've already achieved stability at transonic speeds.

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May 15, 2012, 04:07:14 PM
Going to Bonnevillle for Speed Week sometime is on my Must Do list.  [thumbsup]
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May 15, 2012, 05:32:20 PM
Quote from: Speedbag on May 15, 2012, 04:07:14 PM
Going to Bonnevillle for Speed Week sometime is on my Must Do list.  [thumbsup]

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