Moto GP Round 5 Gran Premi Aperol de Catalunya SPOILERS

[ducpainter]

Meaning you think he intended to give pol nowhere to go?

I think he does that on the front straight.  In that race a couple times.  But to shut the door on someone at full lean deliberately?  That's almost always not going to work out for the door shutter. 

I DO think he could have looked.  I don't fault him for not.  50/50 as dovi said.  50/50 to me is a (n aggressive) racing incident.

That's exactly what I think.

All four of those guys were on the ragged edge.

I think he made a great save...

regained control...

and when Pol tried to go by still a little loose...

he punted him.

[gm2]

and when Pol tried to go by still a little loose...

he punted him.

i don't think he could see him until after the contact, if he saw him at all.

but, ok. 

[ZLTFUL]

i don't think he could see him until after the contact, if he saw him at all.

but, ok. 

Don't you have to actually look to the race line to see if the race line is clear? Just sayin'...
Now granted, he didn't go off track and he wasn't gaining position with his dick move.
But that doesn't discount the fact that it was a dick move.
Bear in mind that I have no love for Pol either, but I definitely think he got the shit end of a shit covered stick.

[gm2]

Don't you have to actually look to the race line to see if the race line is clear? Just sayin'...
Now granted, he didn't go off track and he wasn't gaining position with his dick move.
But that doesn't discount the fact that it was a dick move.
Bear in mind that I have no love for Pol either, but I definitely think he got the shit end of a shit covered stick.

eh, yes and no.  i really do agree with the 50/50 thing.  he couldn't see him from his helmet peripheral which in race speak means he's not there.  should he have looked, yeah maybe.  would he almost definitely have given up the spot if he looked?  yup.

i'm not making any arguments for marquez not having dirty hands a lot of the time.  he does.  but this one.. eh.  racing incident in my eyes.

look at it this way: how would everyone feel about it if exactly the same thing had happened, only pol hadn't crashed?  if there had been some contact and the race continued.

 

[zooom]

look at it this way: how would everyone feel about it if exactly the same thing had happened, only pol hadn't crashed?  if there had been some contact and the race continued.

 

we'd be looking at it like WSBK or BSB where fender bashing can and does happen regularly enough and call it racing, but generally, no crashes occur when it does happen, which is what makes this the heated discussion that it leans towards...

[Grampa]

All that being said....moto 3 was even better.

[The Don]

I think the problem is
1) that he took out the championship leader
2) he didn't look when coming back on the racing line
3) he is known for chopping off riders noses once just past
4) he is the new Spanish golden child
5) there is no consequence for his actions ( see item 4)
I first thought it was a racing incident but after watching it a few times, he should of looked before moving to the racing line, that being said, shit happens in the heat of battle