Lance

[ducatigirl100]

Lance was not in a full pack of cheaters not every athlete drug themselves and it's not every cyclist that make use of EPO.

I'll give you that your entirely untitled to your opinion 

Whit all the shit that he's been thrue in this USADA scandal .... he always denies it.  Anybody who as that king of pressure from the media and scrutiny from the drug agencies they
brake up and they admit

the thing is that we will never know. we can speculate but we can never be sure

Only him knows

... If he's proud and knowing that he did it whitout drug well in is head he did won several tour De France.... They can take away is tittle's but they will not take away the pride he has for himself.

but if he drug himself and won ... I'll just have to live whit the notion that he is a cheater and he will have to look at is "face of a cheater " everytime he wake up in the morning ....until he brake's... 

untimely it's only I'm that knows

[stateprez]

Lance was not in a full pack of cheaters not every athlete drug themselves and it's not every cyclist that make use of EPO.

Riiiight.  That's why the race director says they won't name a winner if Lance's titles are taken.

"What we would like is for there to be no winner in those years," said Prudhomme, who added that there was damning evidence for "a system and an era."

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-tour-de-france-armstrong-20121013,0,1457913.story

EPO is old news (testosterone was also popular).  Blood transfusions are the new standard- have been for years.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Secret-Race-Cover-ups-Winning/dp/0345530411

[fastwin]

I have avoided this thread because I'm an ex bike racer and a fan of Lance. I'll just say this... I have been so disgusted with pro cycling the last several years because of all the doping. Goes all the way to back Tommy Simpson dying on the Mont Ventoux climb in the '67 Tour. "Put me back on my bike" will always remind me of Simpson. There's a statue there now in his honor. But there is no honor in cheating and doping to gain success. Whether it's the Tour or home runs in the MLB.

Call it naive but I would like to think Lance didn't cheat. If he did he was damn good at it to have passed all the tests that other cyclists failed.

[stateprez]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/apnewsbreak-lance-armstrong-stepping-down-as-chairman-of-his-livestrong-cancer-charity/2012/10/17/8990ff92-1852-11e2-a346-f24efc680b8d_story.html

[stateprez]

Nike...out.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/nike-terminate-armstrongs-contract

Nike has has announced it has terminated Lance Armstrong’s contract because of the “seemingly insurmountable evidence that Lance Armstrong participated in doping and misled Nike for more than a decade.”

[stateprez]

Trek, Anheuser Busch, FRS out as well.  Oakley still stands, but they have other issues with an employee threatening Betsy Andreu.

http://fox6now.com/2012/10/17/trek-lance-armstrong/

UCI will likely take his TdF titles, then civil suits over contract bonuses will start.  I wouldn't expect a confession before civil suits are settled.

[muskrat]

"Given the determinations of the report"
WTF does that mean?

[Raux]

alright... i want this across the board in all sports where these items are banned

all NFL titles will be stripped for at least the last 30 years
all Baseball for the last 20
etc. etc.

we all know they did it, testing negative or not.

[stateprez]

Interesting only Vick and Armstrong have ever been "terminated" by Nike, while other doped athletes simply weren't renewed.

Rodriguez, Marion Jones, Justin Gatlin â€" they all used PEDs, and they all stayed on Nike's books until their contracts expired.

It takes something extraordinary to get terminated by Nike. Only Michael Vick and now Armstrong have ever managed to do it.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/reason-why-nike-fired-lance-armstrong-2012-10#ixzz29bLwyBtm

[IZ]

I work out the Lance Armstrong 24 Hour Fitness here in Austin.  You think 24 Hour will follow along with Nike? 

[derby]

I work out the Lance Armstrong 24 Hour Fitness here in Austin.  You think 24 Hour will follow along with Nike? 

24 Hour Fitness. Health clubs. Corporate comment: "Given the evidence surrounding Lance Armstrong's alleged actions, we have determined that our business relationship with Armstrong no longer aligns with our company's mission and values. Over the coming weeks, we plan to remove the Lance Armstrong brand from our six co-branded fitness clubs and further improve these facilities to enable and inspire our members to achieve their fitness goals."

[IZ]

 

Thanks for the info D

[stateprez]

This ship is going down fast.....

Bruyneel proceedings to start in Belgium
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bruyneel-vows-to-continue-fight-against-usada-charges

Italian press reporting on widespread money laundering by Ferrari
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/gazzetta-reveals-scale-of-doping-and-money-laundering-under-dr-ferrari

Lance possibly facing criminal charges in Spain
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/spains-attorney-general-to-launch-criminal-proceedings-against-armstrong

I wonder where Lance is?  Hopefully on a beach in Thailand somewhere....

Edit: Reportedly Oakley is waiting on the verdict of the UCI with regards to Lance sponsorship.  Radio Shack is out as well.

[Ducatamount]

The beginning of the end. (Sorry if this is derby)
http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/inquiry-into-tattooed-guy-put-lance-armstrong-case-in-motion-281282

[stateprez]

The beginning of the end. (Sorry if this is derby)
http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/inquiry-into-tattooed-guy-put-lance-armstrong-case-in-motion-281282

I emailed this to a former Pro 1/2 buddy of mine and this is what he replied:

yeah, I remember racing against that guy, you'll have to ask Ben **** about Crit nationals up in Chicago the year that jackass won. Not 100 yards from the finish he and one of his team mates were hiding behind a tree and the dude was peeing for him in a cup.