Ethanol Again - Please take action

[twolanefun]

This has got to stop, please contact your legislators ]http://capwiz.com/amacycle/issues/alert/?alertid=61632086&queueid=[capwiz:queue_id] - Gene

[roggie]

Thanks for the link, sent mine in...

[Bishamon]

I had concerns that 'blender pumps' could allow some ethanol to slip in even when pumping ethanol free gas.  When I refill my Sport 1000 I do it from a separate gas can which I only fill after first pumping some gas into my truck so that any of the 5% or 10% ethanol gas that happened to be left in the lines gets into my truck and not into the gas can.  Then I test the gas in the can for ethanol before I use it to fill my Sport 1000.  So far, this process has been working, but I don't ride my Sport 1000 very often.  You certainly wouldn't want to follow this procedure with a daily ride.

[ducatiz]

I wouldn't have any problem with the blender pumps if I could also select G100, no ethanol.

Whatever ethanol is left in the hose/pump would end up being a tiny percentage.

[He Man]

I wouldn't have any problem with the blender pumps if I could also select G100, no ethanol.

Whatever ethanol is left in the hose/pump would end up being a tiny percentage.

^ what he said, they arent designed to leave large amounts of fuel in the pumps. There is a piston that measures how much fuel and its safe to say you get  more than 95% of that fuel.

5% of a fuel thats 15% ethanol, mixed into 100% of a 10% solution mix.

you do that math. its not going to matter if u get left over from an E15 in the hose to an E10 in the hose. WHat will matter is if u press the wrong button and run E15.

[Raux]

but the issue is if I read the article correct...
you HAVE to buy 5 gallons of E15 before you can buy anything else.

[twolanefun]

No the issue is that if you select E15, the minimum purchase is 54 gallons. There are some blender pumps with a separate hose for E fuels, but I have only seen them in pictures, so as you can see if you are using the same hose/nozzle it's going to be a problem. The first pump put in use is in Kansas http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/11/e15-fuel-reaches-the-gas-pump-but-just-one/ as you got through the article one of the hot links includes a picture of the actual pump in the background. - Gene

[Raux]

"'blender pumps' that allow the customer to choose a gasoline-ethanol mix that is 10 percent, 15 percent, 30 percent or 85 percent ethanol. "

"Should a driver selects E15, there will be about one-third of a gallon left in the hose when he or she finishes pumping, which could be a problem if the next customer buys a small quantity to fill a portable gasoline tank. The solution: the station requires a four-gallon minimum purchase."

[twolanefun]

Yep, I meant 4 gallons. Still not clear how they force you to buy 4 gallons. I'm going to call the station if I can find the number.

Update I called the station - basically the pump has no way to regulate how much you pump, so the minimum purchase of 4 gallons isn't enforced by the pump. So to me it sound like it's just a CYA if you buy less than 4 gallons of E10 it may be contaminated. - Gene

[ducatiz]

Yep, I meant 4 gallons. Still not clear how they force you to buy 4 gallons. I'm going to call the station if I can find th number. - Gene

they probably charge you for 4 gallons and you do what you want.

think about it.

[twolanefun]

See update on my post. - Gene

[ducpainter]

I clicked...

and got a response from my senator.

We'll see.

[Düb Lüv]

If if doesn't pass, everybody can still use "too fast gas". Vp, turbo blue, etc at a butt raping $6ish a gallon