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Started by Raux, October 23, 2012, 11:48:35 PM

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militar3rd

Alright, correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't the first letter of the VIN indicate the fact that it is made (or assembled??!!) in a certain region of the world?

Japanese vehicles, for example, starts with a J.

While our Ducs starts with a Z, shouldnt they assign a different letter for brazillian made since it's at South America?
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Raux

Quote from: militar3rd on October 24, 2012, 08:44:14 PM
Alright, correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't the first letter of the VIN indicate the fact that it is made (or assembled??!!) in a certain region of the world?

Japanese vehicles, for example, starts with a J.

While our Ducs starts with a Z, shouldnt they assign a different letter for brazillian made since it's at South America?
that was the hope for this thread.

ungeheuer

If its manufactured in all the same places an Italian Ducati is manufactured, and merely assembled in Brazil..... does that make it less Italian?

I dont know, nor do I have any real axe to grind on the subject..... just wondering out loud..

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Raux

Toyota went through this same pocess in the US. you knew wgat was going. to break merely by seeing where it was assembled. the quality control just wasn't there

xcaptainxbloodx

this does not matter in the least.

is your bike less italian because you have an american mechanic?

they all got manufactured in the same factory with the same tolerances.  rather than showing up to the dealership missing mirrors and a windshield, they show up requiring full assembly.

which is kinda awesome if you want to do something (PC the frame) right off the bat. plus you would know that your mechanic put the bike together, not some faceless factory worker.

Speeddog

Quote from: Raux on October 24, 2012, 10:10:16 AM
So, there's no way to tell if you have a Brazilian assemble bike  [thumbsdown]

Here, let me Wiki it for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_Identification_Number

For example, there's an Acura outside my shop with a VIN starting with 19U.
That means it was assembled in the USA.

My Ducati VIN starts with ZDM.
That's Italy.

And your apparent assumption that QC in Brazil won't be as good as QC in Italy....
Not sure what to say about that.
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Raux

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i lived in central america. and seen plenty of film/news/documentary on south america.
quality control isn't a priority there.


BUT... getting past my 20 yr old prejudices I did look up who has factories there...
Brazil has manufacturing plants for General Motors, Volkswagen, Ford, Fiat, Honda, and Toyota.

so the should start with 9A-9E

herm

Quote from: Speeddog on October 25, 2012, 12:23:30 PM
.......
And your apparent assumption that QC in Brazil won't be as good as QC in Italy....
Not sure what to say about that.

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live2ride

you can't say QC is dependent on the country.  it's dependent on the factory.

there's complete shit being manufactured in China, and there's some of the best stuff.  as long as they have strict control over quality, country of origin is least of the worry.

the argument is pointless for ducati if they are only producing brazil made bikes to sell IN brazil

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jerryz

According tto ducati all Diavels are now built in Thailand alongside the Monster 795 ,
so all worldwide production of Diavel is from Thai factory

ducatiz

Quote from: kopfjäger on October 26, 2012, 08:07:50 PM
The best Toyota Truck is made in the US  :D

Which one?

The overseas HiLux is a much sturdier vehicle than the US version (Tacoma)

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Quote from: jerryz on October 26, 2012, 08:23:40 PM
According tto ducati all Diavels are now built in Thailand alongside the Monster 795 ,
so all worldwide production of Diavel is from Thai factory

Source? All I find is news similar to this thread, Diavel's built in southeast Asia only to be sold in southeast Asia.

booger

Quote from: Raux on October 25, 2012, 01:10:00 AM
Toyota went through this same pocess in the US. you knew wgat was going. to break merely by seeing where it was assembled. the quality control just wasn't there


Untrue. Camrys built in Georgetown KY are rock solid and always have been. The team there in Gtown are deadly serious about QC. Probably the most dedicated and proud workforce on the planet right there in hillbilly KY. Incredible ain't it? Don't really know where you are getting your information but you're doing it wrong.

Yeah so everybody obsess over your VIN #s. Because that's not silly at all is it? Especially when it has been established that the Brazilian bikes won't be coming here, ever. Even if they were, I'd trust one. Ducs never had QC issues when they were 100% made in Italy did they? I thought so.
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Quote from: booger on October 29, 2012, 07:57:18 AM
Untrue. Camrys built in Georgetown KY are rock solid and always have been. The team there in Gtown are deadly serious about QC. Probably the most dedicated and proud workforce on the planet right there in hillbilly KY. Incredible ain't it? Don't really know where you are getting your information but you're doing it wrong.

Yeah so everybody obsess over your VIN #s. Because that's not silly at all is it? Especially when it has been established that the Brazilian bikes won't be coming here, ever. Even if they were, I'd trust one. Ducs never had QC issues when they were 100% made in Italy did they? I thought so.

He's probably referring to the NUMMI Toyotas.
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