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Started by memper, March 07, 2013, 07:40:15 AM

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memper

#60
March 16, 2013, 03:26:44 PM
Perhaps. I'll see if theres a NAPA in brooklyn. And I dont have to wait which is worth a million.
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ducpainter

#61
March 16, 2013, 04:17:53 PM
Quote from: memper on March 16, 2013, 03:26:44 PM
Perhaps. I'll see if theres a NAPA in brooklyn. And I dont have to wait which is worth a million.
I think the part# is H-209
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Howie

#62
March 16, 2013, 04:35:54 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on March 16, 2013, 08:10:20 AM
How does Ducati get away with that junk they use for the drain and o/flow hoses?

It seems to hold up ok.

The problem comes with high pressure hose that is reinforced.  The inside is ethanol resistant, but the outside is not, may not even be gasoline resistant.  The outside wrapper goes, then the textile, then tragedy.

ducpainter

#63
March 16, 2013, 04:48:02 PM
Quote from: howie on March 16, 2013, 04:35:54 PM
The problem comes with high pressure hose that is reinforced.  The inside is ethanol resistant, but the outside is not, may not even be gasoline resistant.  The outside wrapper goes, then the textile, then tragedy.
If he was running a high pressure system I'd understand the issue, but he isn't.

Am I missing something?
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”


brad black

#64
March 16, 2013, 07:06:45 PM
the submersible hose is labelled SAE R10.  if it doesn't have that, its not specifically rated for use in petrol.  diesel and alcohols are different to petrol (sorry, gas).
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Howie

#65
March 16, 2013, 07:57:26 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on March 16, 2013, 04:48:02 PM
If he was running a high pressure system I'd understand the issue, but he isn't.

Am I missing something?

Nope, any low pressure hose should work as long as it is ethanol/gasoline resistant.

brad black

#66
March 16, 2013, 11:23:08 PM
the hoses that are single wall, generally referred to as vacuum hose, are usually petrol resistant.  most fuel hose are dual layer tho, both low and high pressure, and have an inner that is fuel resistant, a woven reinforcing layer, then the outer which is generally not fuel resistant.

the little hose ducati use in the tanks is just a single layer hose, so no worries.  the hoses they use in a 916 tank from cap recess to pump plate will be resistant.  there was a recall years ago to replace some of the hoses in some of them.  i have some r10 stuff that is really stiff, and kind of a pita.
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ducpainter

#67
March 17, 2013, 03:29:04 AM
Quote from: brad black on March 16, 2013, 07:06:45 PM
the submersible hose is labelled SAE R10.  if it doesn't have that, its not specifically rated for use in petrol.  diesel and alcohols are different to petrol (sorry, gas).
The NAPA product has the correct rating
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”


memper

#68
March 17, 2013, 04:48:30 AM
Got it. Thanks for the wisdom guys.
"Calling a bikini fairing on a monster a fairing is like calliing a girl in an actual bikini proper work attire....unless shes a stripper." -He Man

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Important: always check your battery filter and regularly change your headlight fluid.

memper

#69
March 18, 2013, 11:04:20 AM
Whelp, Pinwall Cycles refuses to separate the pump from the fuel sensor and cap flange they are selling. Wish I had seen that before  [bang].
So if I go for aftermarket/auto parts store, any idea what pump I can use?? Any low pressure (3psi) pump will do?
"Calling a bikini fairing on a monster a fairing is like calliing a girl in an actual bikini proper work attire....unless shes a stripper." -He Man

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Important: always check your battery filter and regularly change your headlight fluid.

ducpainter

#70
March 18, 2013, 11:14:20 AM
If you utilize the return, pressure isn't very important as there is no stoppage of flow and no pressure build up..

That's why the high pressure efi pump would work.

You'll still have to cut a tube inside the tank to use an external pump.

The OEM setup is the best alternative to an in tank pump, IMO, as it will utilize the bracket already there.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”


SpikeC

#71
March 18, 2013, 12:30:49 PM
 Have you checked the assortment of fuel pumps at JCK Whitless?
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memper

#72
March 18, 2013, 04:27:56 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on March 18, 2013, 11:14:20 AM
If you utilize the return, pressure isn't very important as there is no stoppage of flow and no pressure build up..

That's why the high pressure efi pump would work.

You'll still have to cut a tube inside the tank to use an external pump.

The OEM setup is the best alternative to an in tank pump, IMO, as it will utilize the bracket already there.
After looking into the situation more I have decided to agree with you and do an internal set up. Pinwall Cycles has an OEM ss pump with a fuel sensor and a tank flange for $35 or so. I'm guessing that I would be hard pressed to find an aftermarket that fits the mount for that price. Agree?
"Calling a bikini fairing on a monster a fairing is like calliing a girl in an actual bikini proper work attire....unless shes a stripper." -He Man

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Important: always check your battery filter and regularly change your headlight fluid.

ducpainter

#73
March 18, 2013, 04:31:51 PM
Quote from: memper on March 18, 2013, 04:27:56 PM
After looking into the situation more I have decided to agree with you and do an internal set up. Pinwall Cycles has an OEM ss pump with a fuel sensor and a tank flange for $35 or so. I'm guessing that I would be hard pressed to find an aftermarket that fits the mount for that price. Agree?
Absolutely...

and the supply of replacements if that one ever fails is almost endless.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”


memper

#74
March 18, 2013, 06:30:57 PM
It occurd to me that it might be wise to check the sending unit. Its from '96. Do they go bad? How would I go about checking for continuity?
"Calling a bikini fairing on a monster a fairing is like calliing a girl in an actual bikini proper work attire....unless shes a stripper." -He Man

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