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Started by lethe, May 03, 2013, 05:30:52 PM

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hbliam

I am aware of the need to reduce the number of some animals. Native Americans hunted for food. They didn't hunt for sport and didn't have meat already available for purchase.  I am also aware of where most meat comes from. I try my best to buy free range, hormone free meat. I don't fault anyone that hunts purely for the need for food.

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kopfjäger

Quote from: hbliam on May 03, 2013, 09:11:31 PM
I am aware of the need to reduce the number of some animals. Native Americans hunted for food. They didn't hunt for sport and didn't have meat already available for purchase.  I am also aware of where most meat comes from. I try my best to buy free range, hormone free meat. I don't fault anyone that hunts purely for the need for food.

Go away dude.  Go far away.
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Howie

Quote from: LowThudd on May 03, 2013, 08:50:16 PM
None of us NEED to eat meat. Caged animals live most of their life in a cage to small to turn around in, just waiting for death. That is my idea of sick. As fpr the link you posted, if you read down a little you would see that improperly handled meat and contact with live animals are the source for even the possiblity of most of it. Here is a source for problems with farm raised animals meat EVEN when properly cooked: http://www.naturalnews.com/025716_antibiotic_animals_antibiotics.html

In case you did not know, there are MANY areas of this country that have an overabundance of deer, pigs and other animals, and it becomes necessary for US to cull the heard, much as native americans did for thousands of years. We are the caretakers of this land, and the Fish and Game department will even make recomendations to hunt certain animals when their numbers are too great. Furthermore, deer tend to live between 6-8 years, at which point they die a horrible agonizing death when their teeth wear down to the roots. At this point the generally die from desease or starve to death. That is a lot more cruel than a short while of pain near the apex of the animals effective life.

Like squirrel?  Come on over!  Free motorcycle parking and room.  You gotta dress and coo... ah, I'll cook em   ;D

rgramjet

Quote from: hbliam on May 03, 2013, 07:16:12 PM
I just can't ever "get" hunting.

Isn't it nice that you don't have to?









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hbliam

Quote from: kopfjäger on May 03, 2013, 09:34:12 PM
Go away dude.  Go far away.

Unfortunately for you, not everyone has to have the same opinion as you.

hbliam

Quote from: rgramjet on May 03, 2013, 10:26:50 PM
Isn't it nice that you don't have to?

Agreed. I'm not forcing my opinion on anyone, just expressing it.

LowThudd

Quote from: howie on May 03, 2013, 10:02:39 PM
Like squirrel?  Come on over!  Free motorcycle parking and room.  You gotta dress and coo... ah, I'll cook em   ;D

Never ate squirrel. lol But I'd give it a try, just to say I had. I actually think they are fairly cute little buggers. I might feel a *little* bad eating one if I didn't need to. But, one thing there will never be a shortage of is rodents.

lethe

I don't hunt, never have and don't currently feel any need to.
However, I understand the actual need for some hunting to occur as we've removed the apex predators from places they need to be.
Also, to see an apex predator in action doing it's thing, like in the video, is an amazing thing.
We occasionally get some meat from local hunters we know as they often have more than they truly need.
Now, if shit hit the fan, food became scarce and it were needed, I'll shoot Bambi or Thumper without batting an eye. I respect their life but as something higher on the food chain, I'd just be merely doing what is needed.
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Monsterlover

Quote from: LowThudd on May 04, 2013, 03:25:33 AM
Never ate squirrel. lol But I'd give it a try, just to say I had. I actually think they are fairly cute little buggers. I might feel a *little* bad eating one if I didn't need to. But, one thing there will never be a shortage of is rodents.

I've had squirrel in stew and it was pretty good. Its a lot of work for a small amount of meat though.
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lethe

Quote from: Monsterlover on May 04, 2013, 06:18:16 AM
I've had squirrel in stew and it was pretty good. Its a lot of work for a small amount of meat though.
'tis work Howie would gladly do, everyone ship Howie your squirrels for cleaning. He will be pleased to see the packages arrive!  [thumbsup]
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#26
During the first 20-25 years of my life I hunted avidly, and the purpose was food and being out in nature, plus doing my part for conservation. I've eaten many different critters (all of them pretty tasty): squirrel, rabbit, duck, pheasant, goose, wild turkey, grouse, quail, raccoon, deer, wild pig, and bear.

Now that I'm older, I rarely hunt at all. I think I've developed a "let them be" kind of mentality. I've pondered getting back into deer hunting out west, but have yet to do so. Still have my full arsenal of guns.

That said, if push came to shove, I know how to field dress almost anything and I will survive.  :)

And for the record, I have little respect for sport hunters.
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WarrenJ

When I kill something and eat it, I feel that it is now a part of me and we go on together.  Far better for me to personally take the responsibility of taking its life cleanly and consuming it than hiring my killing done, like thinking that buying meat in the grocery store absolves you from the responsibility of killing something.
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LowThudd

Quote from: WarrenJ on May 04, 2013, 08:59:04 AM
When I kill something and eat it, I feel that it is now a part of me and we go on together.  Far better for me to personally take the responsibility of taking its life cleanly and consuming it than hiring my killing done, like thinking that buying meat in the grocery store absolves you from the responsibility of killing something.

Well said! I have had this same conversation with people on and off since the early nineties. It got really annoying when someone was filling their face with a big mac, telling me how cruel hunting is, even when for food!

Now, back to the raptors...effing incredible! I have always wanted to get involved in Falconry. A very dignified way to hunt. The raptor mostly wants the internal organs rather than the meat, and we naturally want the meat. One great symbiotic relationship. [clap]

rgramjet

Quote from: WarrenJ on May 04, 2013, 08:59:04 AM
When I kill something and eat it, I feel that it is now a part of me and we go on together.  Far better for me to personally take the responsibility of taking its life cleanly and consuming it than hiring my killing done, like thinking that buying meat in the grocery store absolves you from the responsibility of killing something.

+1

I "hunted" for several years before actually pulling the trigger on a deer.  I love being out in the woods, there is no better nap time!  A packable hammock goes with me everytime.

Well prepared venison is as good as it gets.  My family loves it as do the friends I share it with.  A few years ago Drkwng and I shared a fresh grilled liver with a bottle of great red wine that he brought over.  Good stuff. 

What kind of speeds do the falcons reach when diving?
Quote from: ducpainter on May 20, 2010, 02:11:47 PM
You're obviously a crack smokin' redneck carpenter. :-*

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