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mladin returns?

Started by derby, May 21, 2013, 08:01:37 AM

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derby

Quote from: fastwin on May 22, 2013, 08:18:52 AM
I like The Ben but he's dangerously close to following in The Hooper's footsteps. [roll]

hopper wishes he'd had a fraction of the success ben has...

Quote from: fastwin on May 22, 2013, 08:18:52 AMLot's of talent and potential but fast becoming damaged goods. Would you want to sign him up to an extended contract for another year at this point in the season?

the possibility of ben being healthy next year vs what are your other rider prospects? who would you rather hire instead of healthy-ben?

Quote from: fastwin on May 22, 2013, 08:18:52 AM
Telling ya'. He should have listened to me and signed with a top flight WSBK team. [laugh]

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fastwin

Off the Mladin topic again (sorry [roll]) but derby makes some good counter points to my rambling. [thumbsup] And by the way it's Hopper not Hooper... my bad! [bang]

Still like the idea of a healthy Spies kicking ass in WSBK. I'd eat more burgers at his Stackhouse restaurant if he did! [bacon] [drool]

Long and short, I think the Mladin story bullshit is just that. DMG desperate for some hopefully legit PR. Why would Mladin come back to this stink hole? :P
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ducpainter

Quote from: fastwin on May 22, 2013, 05:41:54 PM
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Long and short, I think the Mladin story bullshit is just that. DMG desperate for some hopefully legit PR. Why would Mladin come back to this stink hole? :P
Because he's a gravy sucking pig and want's more cake.  ;D
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fastwin

 [laugh] [laugh] Don't sugar coat it Nate! But you could be right!
I plan to list the Federal Gov't. as a dependent on my next 1040 tax filing!

I have flying honey badgers and I'm not afraid to use them!

The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."

CONFIDENCE: the feeling you have right before you understand the situation.

gm2

Quote from: Jester on May 22, 2013, 01:48:59 AM
He's got the career ending Rossi shoulder.  Stick a fork in him.

rossi appears to be fine.

hodgson on the other hand..
Like this is the racing, no?

ducpainter

Quote from: gm2 on May 24, 2013, 07:14:42 AM
rossi appears to be fine.

hodgson on the other hand..
Not to take too much attention from my most favorite rider... :P

People seem to forget that in a world where hundredths and thousandths of seconds are a lifetime that Rossi is not on the same M1 he left Yamaha with which was tailored to him.

It's had 2 years of modification to better suit George.

The old fossil isn't done yet.
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Quote from: ducpainter on May 24, 2013, 07:20:23 AM
Not to take too much attention from my most favorite rider... :P

People seem to forget that in a world where hundredths and thousandths of seconds are a lifetime that Rossi is not on the same M1 he left Yamaha with which was tailored to him.

It's had 2 years of modification to better suit George.

The old fossil isn't done yet.

you tryin to say Burgess will have it fixed for him in 10 minutes?
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Quote from: gm2 on May 24, 2013, 07:14:42 AM
rossi appears to be fine.

hodgson on the other hand..

It was a bit in jest, but it may take Ben a year or so before he's normal again.
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fastwin

Quote from: ducpainter on May 24, 2013, 07:20:23 AM
The old fossil isn't done yet.

Nate, do you find people saying the same about you. I sure do! [laugh] [laugh] [beer]
I plan to list the Federal Gov't. as a dependent on my next 1040 tax filing!

I have flying honey badgers and I'm not afraid to use them!

The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."

CONFIDENCE: the feeling you have right before you understand the situation.

gm2

Quote from: Jester on May 24, 2013, 09:07:26 AM
It was a bit in jest, but it may take Ben a year or so before he's normal again.

if he ever is
Like this is the racing, no?

Triple J

Quote from: ducpainter on May 24, 2013, 07:20:23 AM

People seem to forget that in a world where hundredths and thousandths of seconds are a lifetime that Rossi is not on the same M1 he left Yamaha with which was tailored to him.

It's had 2 years of modification to better suit George.

The old fossil isn't done yet.

What's that say about Stoner hopping on the Honda built for Pedrosa and kicking ass on it straight away?

I guess I don't totally buy this argument. Not that he needs to be winning all the races, but the Yamaha is a good bike. A rider has to be able to adapt a little bit.


gm2

Quote from: Triple J on May 24, 2013, 11:31:21 AM
What's that say about Stoner hopping on the Honda built for Pedrosa and kicking ass on it straight away?

I guess I don't totally buy this argument. Not that he needs to be winning all the races, but the Yamaha is a good bike. A rider has to be able to adapt a little bit.


the 2007 RC212v was built for pedrosa, and it didn't work.  it wasn't until the 2nd half of 2010 that they got that bike figured out, so maybe it was dovi's bike by then.

they all adapt a little bit to the base characteristics of any bike.  but there's no denying that a bike gets developed a certain direction/toward a rider or riding style.  the M1 was developed toward JLo in 2011 and 2012.  just like 2004 - 20xx (debatable..) it was developed toward rossi.  
Like this is the racing, no?

ducpainter

Quote from: Triple J on May 24, 2013, 11:31:21 AM
What's that say about Stoner hopping on the Honda built for Pedrosa and kicking ass on it straight away?

I guess I don't totally buy this argument. Not that he needs to be winning all the races, but the Yamaha is a good bike. A rider has to be able to adapt a little bit.


Stoner doesn't count.

He's not 'right'. ;)
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Quote from: gm2 on May 24, 2013, 02:55:48 PM
the 2007 RC212v was built for pedrosa, and it didn't work.  it wasn't until the 2nd half of 2010 that they got that bike figured out, so maybe it was dovi's bike by then.

they all adapt a little bit to the base characteristics of any bike.  but there's no denying that a bike gets developed a certain direction/toward a rider or riding style.  the M1 was developed toward JLo in 2011 and 2012.  just like 2004 - 20xx (debatable..) it was developed toward rossi.  


Ya, I know. But c'mon...that bike has always been Pedro's...they just fixed it since '07. Regardless though, it wasn't Stoner's. He started kicking ass the 1st practice day on it though. Of course, it probably felt like the best bike ever built after being on the Duc for so long!

I'm just not convinced Rossi still has it. If he wins a dry race that the others don't gift him with a crash-out or DNS due to injury, then I'll eat my words.  ;D I wish he'd get back to the front...I'd like to see him bang fairings with MM a few times (after they punt JLo off the track).  ;D

Quote from: ducpainter on May 24, 2013, 03:16:01 PM
Stoner doesn't count.

He's not 'right'. ;)

[thumbsup]

gm2

Quote from: Triple J on May 24, 2013, 03:28:22 PM
Ya, I know. But c'mon...that bike has always been Pedro's...they just fixed it since '07.

well.. it was definitely not pedro's in 2006.  when stoner was on a satellite version and got pole in his 2nd race.


Quote from: Triple J on May 24, 2013, 03:28:22 PM
I'm just not convinced Rossi still has it. If he wins a dry race that the others don't gift him with a crash-out or DNS due to injury, then I'll eat my words.  ;D I wish he'd get back to the front...

you, uh, didn't watch qatar eh?   ;D
Like this is the racing, no?