Competition Werkes vs. Termignoni exhaust system

[MonsterB]

Gentlemen,

One of the first thing I'll be doing after breaking in the bike is to replace the stock exhaust system. The color of the cans is different from anything else on the bike, and pairing that with the fact that they are HUGE gives me an element of "something's off here" every time I look at the bike..

I've been trying to google around to see what weight loss is gained by swapping them for the "original" termis. I've read 15lbs somewhere but I cannot understand this can be correct as the termi setup also is a dual-can one.

A contender on the replacement exhaust arena is the GP slip-on manufactured by Computer Werkes. It's small, looks great with stock headers, and cleans up the view of the rear wheel and the SSSA quite nicely. My dealer says my warranty will hold no problem if I swap for a 3rd party can. CW claims a 9lb/4kg reduction with this can from stock which is quite nice. (Yet another reason not to trust the 15lb reduction with the termis which are quite bigger).

But - do any of you have any experience with the CW cans? Will running them with the DB inserts make the bike run lean/rich or can you go along just fine without having to do anything with the ECU? As I'm not looking for performance upgrade this round I was hoping to avoid too much hassle.

[ungeheuer]

IMO just changing out the stock exhaust cans for aftermarket slip on units will not require any changes to fuelling nor require your ECU to be reflashed.

To generally achieve better midrange throttle response and smooth out the bike's stock lumpy (as in rather lean) fuelling doing so is IMO worthwhile, but not entirely necessary if we're talking just about replacing your exhaust cans.

IMO the best looking aftermarket exhaust for M1100 EVO is the Spark offering....

[MonsterB]

I think the Spark exhaust leaves too much exhaust pipes running around the engine. It's so much your eyes starts seeing nothing but steel tubes.

I'm more into this type of look. Show of the SSSA and rear tire a lot better and tidys up the tail quite a bit:

[oldndumb]

I think the Spark exhaust leaves too much exhaust pipes running around the engine. It's so much your eyes starts seeing nothing but steel tubes.

I'm more into this type of look. Show of the SSSA and rear tire a lot better and tidys up the tail quite a bit:

Yep!

Plus you eliminate the weight of one can, some piping, and the one can is below the cg.

[ungeheuer]

You might like to take a look at this.....

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=62810.0

[Barney]

hey! that's my bike!   

I'll tell you what, when I first saw that modded termi, I was like "damn, that's so much better than mine", but lookin at it now, I think the shape of the termi can is a little odd and i'd probably pick my comp werks.  it sounds damn mean too...

...and i dont think i want carbon fiber on my bike

[nickshelby500kr]

I love the look of the blacked out exhaust in contrast with the red. If I did it, I think it would be too much black.

[MonsterB]

Guys, I'm sorry.. I caved in and ordered the full Termi kit to be installed on my next visit to the garage.. However! At the same time I arranged for a complete velvet black ceramic coating of the pipes from the engine all the way back to the carbon cannisters.

Hopefully that'll clean up things a bit. I'll post pictures when it's all arranged. Oh, and I also decided to swap the plastic hugger for something more suitable next to the termis... :-)

[Raux]

That's not caving, that's stepping up to the plate and hitting a home run (with a gold bat)

[Barney]

for sure man.  i'm still looking into getting the pipes on my ride ceramic coated too.  sounds sweet 

[DexterMorgan]

Guys, I'm sorry.. I caved in and ordered the full Termi kit to be installed on my next visit to the garage.. However! At the same time I arranged for a complete velvet black ceramic coating of the pipes from the engine all the way back to the carbon cannisters.

Hopefully that'll clean up things a bit. I'll post pictures when it's all arranged. Oh, and I also decided to swap the plastic hugger for something more suitable next to the termis... :-)

Who is doing the coating on your pipes?  What did they quote you?  Excited to see this.  I really want to get mine done.

[ungeheuer]

Who is doing the coating on your pipes?  What did they quote you?  Excited to see this.  I really want to get mine done.

He's in Norway mate, prices are gonna be meaningless. 

Guys, I'm sorry..

No hay de que   

I love my termi system, no doubt you'll enjoy yours too.  The only nasty part is the price... and you'll forget that pain long before the glee subsides 

[MonsterB]

Indeed.. I am in Norway. But, any information is good information most often so here goes. The company can be found here www.ceramiccoating.no (in Norwegian) and they estimated $330 for the job.

[MonsterB]

Not my bike, but I found this picture that shows what it might end up looking like:

[oldndumb]

Just a cautionary note, and not meant to dissuade anyone from ceramic coating, but if you have never had it done you might be surprised to find that the black treatments scuff fairly easy. Not to say that it is fragile, just softer than you would expect for a heat cured process.

Knowing that, some caution during assembly ought to be sufficient. Another thing I have observed is that, depending on the vendor, some will show mild discoloration at the cylinder ends. All vendors seem to have very good re-coating warranties.