M1 finally goes seamless shift

[Triple J]

The bans don't really seem to work, especially if cost cutting is the goal. Ban dual clutch? No worries, the engineers just build an expensive alternative. Ban GPS? No problem, the engineers just program the bike for each track (probably at a significant cost). And on and on.

[Raux]

here's the thing on MotoGP for me.

two wheels, 1000cc, rider, min weight, spec fuel

pretty much everything else is open to interpretation by the manufacturer.

maybe you see rotary motors, maybe turbines, maybe 2 cyl, maybe 6...

[gm2]

when everyone had money coming out their ass the rules were far more flexible.

yeah.. i know that many of the cost cutting or safety-related changes have resulted in more money being spent.  lots more.

[zooom]

when everyone had money coming out their ass the rules were far more flexible.

yeah.. i know that many of the cost cutting or safety-related changes have resulted in more money being spent.  lots more.

kinda counter intuitive ain't it?

[Speeddog]

Race teams will spend all the money they can get their hands on.

Those with the biggest pile of cash generally win.

I couldn't find supporting data, but IIRC, the Manufacturers (MSMA) proposed the ban, or at the very least agreed to it in the rules.
Circa 2008...

[bluestoesonnose]

It's all about winning, if you've got a bigger pile of £££ you'll win, simples.  Until they sort this kind of thing out I think Kwaka and Suzuki will stay away.  Ok Suzook is coming back in the next year or so but they won't have a chance in hell as they'll be playing catch up, I can't see them staying.  If Duke can't sort it out then it's a dead end series.  Which will be the real issue, who'll watch it?

The only real way to help cut costs is base them on road bikes like CRT and bring in rules about being able to purchase a motor for set low(ish) cost.

If you have three classes and road bikes using similar road motors (so for Honda Blade based) with more mods for higher classes  then you'll get some saving, however you'll need to dumb down WSB to BSB levels or lower.

Just the way of the world, that said I love the tech side of it all.

[derby]

It's all about winning, if you've got a bigger pile of £££ you'll win, simples. 

toyota would disagree (regarding their formula 1 program)...

[DRKWNG]

toyota would disagree (regarding their formula 1 program)...

Waiting on Randimus to show up defending Toyo's honor and proselytizing until we all see how futile it is to resist the Borg... 

[duccarlos]

Anyway... could we see the seamless gearbox in the next round?

[Speeddog]

I maintain my assertion that it won't fit in the current crankcases, so they're f*cked for this year on using it.

[ducpainter]

I maintain my assertion that it won't fit in the current crankcases, so they're f*cked for this year on using it.

On the Eurosport broadcast they reported it will fit in the current cases and was no more difficult to fit than doing a ratio change which can be done to any in service engine. 

[duccarlos]

On the Eurosport broadcast they reported it will fit in the current cases and was no more difficult to fit than doing a ratio change which can be done to any in service engine. 

The MotoGP crew seem to think that it will be available within the next couple of rounds.