More aggressive ergos: clip-one vs. Suburban Machinery bars

[asherrick]

I have a M1100s and am looking for a more aggressive riding position. I had a 1198s and don't want to go that aggressive with it but somewhere in between. I'm thinking that clipons, like Speedymoto Tall Boys, or the Suburban Machinery bars might fit the bill. Has anyone ever compared the two?

Any other thoughts? Thanks!

[ungeheuer]

No FHE with Suburban Machinery bars (I do like the look of those though), but I have run Speedymoto Tallboys and subsequently swapped those out for Swatt clipons with 3 1/2" rise. Swatts are no longer in production, but Woodcraft makes something which does the identical job as my Swatts.... and the Woodcrafts also look nicer too IMO.

Although I found Speedymoto Tallboys more appealing to the eye that the Swatts I ultimately ended up with, I wasnt happy with the lack of sweep-back offered by the Tallboys.

Here's my experiences if you're interested....
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=21407.0
....for the purposes of comparing you can pencil in Woodcraft in place of Swatts...

One thing to consider is the cost of replacing the stock top triple if you decide to go with clipons (you could continue to use the stock triple, but with no bars mounted atop, it'd look a little naff IMO).

[Privateer]

the SM bars aren't that much lower, from my experience, altho they're rotated down more which made my wrists happy

before:


after:

[stopintime]

Clip ons typically have a 7 degrees down angle.
Suburban doesn't.

Stock sweep is 18 degrees.
Suburban is 24, typical clip ons at ~30.

Clip ons will feel about the same as your 1198, but higher, depending on your choise of risers.

[ungeheuer]

Clip ons will feel about the same as your 1198, but higher, depending on your choise of risers.

I feel as though I'm pushing thru corners with much better precision with clipons than with regular handlebars....  don't really understand how that is actually possible ... other than placing my weight/input more forward, a little lower.... but that is certainly how it feels.

[suzyj]

I obsessed over just the same option when I swapped my forks for 998 ones. I ended up going with zero-rise woodcraft clip-ons above the triple. It's a really comfy position. Aggressive without being nuts. Heaps of angle and very narrow.



If you're patient, you can even cut the bar mounts off your existing triple so it doesn't look sucky.

[Raux]

I have a 696 and run woodcraft zero rise under the triple with the 1" wider bars they have

In this pic you can see my setup, a typical Monster and a 1198.

[ungeheuer]

If you're patient, you can even cut the bar mounts off your existing triple so it doesn't look sucky.

Nice job 

[DarkMonster620]

I obsessed over just the same option when I swapped my forks for 998 ones. I ended up going with zero-rise woodcraft clip-ons above the triple. It's a really comfy position. Aggressive without being nuts. Heaps of angle and very narrow.

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If you're patient, you can even cut the bar mounts off your existing triple so it doesn't look sucky.

suzyj,
did you bore out the top triple or replace it with a 998 one? I understand you cut the supports for the steering bar, but, the 998 are wider or am I still a bit sleepy?

btw, I have that same configuration, Woodcraft 0 rise on top of the top triple . . .

[suzyj]

suzyj,
did you bore out the top triple or replace it with a 998 one? I understand you cut the supports for the steering bar, but, the 998 are wider or am I still a bit sleepy?

btw, I have that same configuration, Woodcraft 0 rise on top of the top triple . . .

It's the stock 695 triple, bored out. The 998 triple is quite different.

[DarkMonster620]

It's the stock 695 triple, bored out. The 998 triple is quite different.

Thanks !!!

[NAKID]

I obsessed over just the same option when I swapped my forks for 998 ones. I ended up going with zero-rise woodcraft clip-ons above the triple. It's a really comfy position. Aggressive without being nuts. Heaps of angle and very narrow.



If you're patient, you can even cut the bar mounts off your existing triple so it doesn't look sucky.

Very similar to my setup. Very streetable. I'm 5'9" and I can comfortably sit up with both hands on the bars.

[asherrick]

Thanks for all of the feedback, guys (and gal)! My goal is to get more weight over the front weight and a little better high-speed stability. Again, I don't want to turn this into a Superbike, so I'm looking for that middle ground.

Privateer, thanks for the before-and-after pictures of your SM bars! Do you happen to have a picture from the top of the bike showing the bar position in the clamp? I'm curious to see how you have it oriented.

With the M1100s the clipons would need to be mounted below the triple. It would seem like a zero-rise setup would be too low, and much lower than the SM bars. Am I right?

[Raux]

Yes

[SpikeC]

 Wen I mounted the SM bars on my 1100S I needed to rotate then down a bit to work right for me and that put their hole for the left side switch cluster in the wrong place. I had to cut off the peg and add a bit of black tape to secure the cluster.
I liked the position quite a bit, it was close to my BMW R1100S.