More aggressive ergos: clip-one vs. Suburban Machinery bars

[asherrick]

From searching around the forum it seems like most people that have gone to clipons have done a 3" rise. Any idea how this compares to SM bars? Compared to stock (I actually have a Rizoma bar, so the taper is different)?

[stopintime]

If you get clip ons with replaceable risers (Woodcraft) you can buy other heights to adjust later on OR buy 3" and slide them down on the fork tubes IF you want to lower them.

Comparing to Rizoma will depend on which Rizoma model you have, but the usual Rizoma bars have about the same sweep angle as Suburban - quite a bit higher than stock though (~2")

[Raux]

On the new monsters the tanks dictate the rises
zero come below the tank to the frame
3“ hit the stock air intake indents
anywhere inbetween limits yout turn radius

[SpikeC]

 I did have to adjust the fork stops on my 09 1100.

[ute]

I have the SM bars ..love um , just rotate down to find your "sweet spot" but as said above you must delete the locate pegs in your switch gear ..no biggie

now that being said I have not used clips on my Monster just on the Gixxer , but like you said you want a middle ground not a Superbike 
I say go with SM if you don't like you can always sell on here

[asherrick]

I just realized that I completely forgot something...my DP steering damper that attaches to the handlebar mount. I'll need to lose that if I go with clipons. Hmm...I'm thinking that I may start with the SM bars and see where that gets me.

[seanster]

I like these Apex clipons.  Just rotabe the bars and it will give you different angle, plus there is raise options of 3 or 4"

http://www.apexmfg.com/products

[Stormtrooper]

I run Woodcraft 2.5" rise on my 796 - I would recommend them.  The forward riding position made handling and turn-in more precise without adding too much weight on the wrists...a good compromise IMO.  With new adapters you can go from zero rise to 3" rise without changing the entire setup.

These pics may help you:

Stock bars vs Woodcraft 2.5" (a 5" drop in grip location + more natural angle)


Stock flipped bars vs Woodcraft 2.5" (a 2.5" drop in grip location)


Fully installed:

[asherrick]

Fantastic photos, Stormtrooper! That really illustrates the height difference.

[ungeheuer]

I run Woodcraft 2.5" rise on my 796 - I would recommend them.  The forward riding position made handling and turn-in more precise without adding too much weight on the wrists...a good compromise IMO.

+1.  Whilst I'm running 3.5" Swatts (and previoiusly 2.5") my experience echos 'trooper's.

Fantastic photos, Stormtrooper! That really illustrates the height difference.

Yup, a perfect visualisation, good work Stormtrooper 

[Rudemouthsky]

Get the Suburban bars because they're made in CLEVELAND, baby.

[asherrick]

Thanks for your help, everyone! I selected the Suburban Machinery bars. So far I like them but I have a few issues to sort out. The first one is that the stock mirrors are now completely worthless. Is my only option a bar end mirror? I generally don't care for the looks of them.

[teddy037.3]

Thanks for your help, everyone! I selected the Suburban Machinery bars. So far I like them but I have a few issues to sort out. The first one is that the stock mirrors are now completely worthless. Is my only option a bar end mirror? I generally don't care for the looks of them.

you could try aftermarket stalk mounted mirrors; there's all sorts of height/angle to them, you may find one that'll work with the lower bar position.  or is the problem due to rotation of the controls?

:edit:  I ran 1st gen SM bars on my 620... re-drilled the holes for the controls to better suit how I wanted the bars angled.  FWIW, I loved them; perfect for my height/reach vs. the stock bar

[Steve.In.Atlanta]

Thanks for your help, everyone! I selected the Suburban Machinery bars. So far I like them but I have a few issues to sort out. The first one is that the stock mirrors are now completely worthless. Is my only option a bar end mirror? I generally don't care for the looks of them.

What I've liked the most about bar end mirrors is the convex mirror let's me pretty much see behind me which is good on the road to make sure my ass isn't being ridden.

[asherrick]

you could try aftermarket stalk mounted mirrors; there's all sorts of height/angle to them, you may find one that'll work with the lower bar position.

I'm not sure that stalk mirrors will be tall/high enough with the lower bars. That's the problem that I'm having with the stock mirrors.