NEED TO REPLACE FRONT/REAR SPROCKET/CHAIN: MONSTER S2R DARK 800

Started by jdliquid, September 23, 2013, 09:05:59 AM

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jdliquid

Hi guys.

I noticed this morning before commuting my chain was really loose. Looser than I ever remember it being.
I recently gave a few rides to some "not so light" in weight friends of mine. I noticed my bike struggles with
anyone weighing more than 130ish lbs on the back.

I brought the bike in to my mechanic and after tightening the chain, he mentioned the chain was tightening in only some
areas, while remaining loose in other areas. He said I needed a new chain/ front and rear sprocket setup. Mentioned
the sprocket teeth seemed too worn or spaced. I'm assuming the chain was stretched due to the excessive load or strain
on the engine.

I looked in this section for replacement parts described above and got some insight on what to get. But I was wondering
if someone can tell me exactly what they recommend as the best option for my ride with cost effectiveness in mind.

Thank you guys.
Monster S2R Dark 800

Mechanic mentioned: DID or RK chain (how many links? and what setup? 520,530...difference?)
Sprocket: JT or SUN STAR

Thank you much.
J

nickshelby500kr

520/525/530 refers to the width of the chain. 520 being more narrow thus lighter than a 530. This decreases rotating mass that the engine is having to spin.

The two most common combos you'll see 14/41
Or 15/43.

If you still have a 15 tooth, just add a 43 to the rear in the same chain size. Both combos will need a longer chain. Usually 2-3 more links.

stopintime

Chain and sprockets will wear out faster if constantly flogged (on and off the throttle and/or lots of full throttle), but under any circumstance it's only a question of time.

Stock on your bike (confirmed by Ducati.com) is 520 chain and 15/41.
For that set up, it's 104 links.
It's important to get the correct number of links because the eccentric hub (with axle in it) must be in ~same position to keep the ride height ~equal and to keep the chain adjusting function as intended.

Do you want changes?
Why?

If not go for the stock set up [thumbsup]
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

caperix

I tend to get the best life out of DID chains on my bikes.  You will prob find the most selection in a 525 or a 520 chain, 525 should be the factory size.  I would suggest putting a quick change rear sprocket carrier on the bike if you plan on keeping it, as it will make future rear sprocket changes much cheaper & easier.  AFAM & Super Sprox are both good choices,
I would recommend staying away from all aluminum sprockets for the street.

jdliquid

Thank you guys for all your help.  [beer]

Side question. From a Monster 800, what do you think would be a nice upgrade as a replacement bike.
I've been hearing good things about the street fighter, but was also considering the 1100 EVO.
Any thoughts?

Always appreciated.
J

nickshelby500kr

Quote from: jdliquid on September 24, 2013, 08:00:27 AM
Thank you guys for all your help.  [beer]

Side question. From a Monster 800, what do you think would be a nice upgrade as a replacement bike.
I've been hearing good things about the street fighter, but was also considering the 1100 EVO.
Any thoughts?

Always appreciated.
J

Depends on what you want in a bike

JEFF_H

stock size was 520 FYI

if you do go with the JT quick-change rear sprocket, i would recommend the AFAM steel sprocket instead of the JT alum one
the aluminum ones wear out really fast

jdliquid

Hey nickshelby500kr,

Thanks for the reply.

A lot of power and agile handling. More power than the S2R dark 800, Capable of 150+

nickshelby500kr

Quote from: jdliquid on September 24, 2013, 11:38:09 AM
Hey nickshelby500kr,

Thanks for the reply.

A lot of power and agile handling. More power than the S2R dark 800, Capable of 150+

Well I'll tell you from first hand experience the 1100 evo isn't going to get you to 150. You'll hit 130 (speedo reading) and that's TOPPED out.

Streetfighter 1098 is a lot of motorcycle. 2nd and 3rd gear power wheelies (no clutch) and will easily take you 150 however you will have zero wind protection which will be your limiting factor.

If you really want to stick with a monster s4rs is fan favorite. Or be patient a few months in anticipation for an 1198 monster. I fear it will be absolutely uncontrollable though, the S4rs is already a pretty damn wild.

jdliquid

Guys.

after reading all the responses (and thank you to all), I've decided to go with a
520 DID/ 15/41 setup.
I have in the cart the chain, JT quick change sprocket carrier, and the JT 15T front sprocket in steel.

I am having a difficult time finding a quick change for carrier rear sprocket in steel. anyone that can assist with some links would be great. I'd
like to get all the parts today if possible.

checked Motorcycle superstore, and other webistes. no go. only aluminum is what I can find.

Any help would be awesome.

Thanks again.
J

nickshelby500kr

Goto monsterparts.com

Dump the quick change and just get a Afam front, and Afam steel rear for oem carriers.

caperix

Sprocket center is a good website as well. If just the carrier is aluminium it should not matter as long as you get a steel sprocket to go with it.  Afam makes steel sprockets that work with quick change carriers.

Triple J

Quote from: nickshelby500kr on October 07, 2013, 12:51:51 PM
Goto monsterparts.com

Dump the quick change and just get a Afam front, and Afam steel rear for oem carriers.

+1

Quick change seems like a waste of money to me considering you'll only be changing it when they wear out...so not that often.

ute

And dump the 15t .........go 14t its a game changer on the Duc

nickshelby500kr

Quote from: Triple J on October 07, 2013, 03:12:26 PM
+1

Quick change seems like a waste of money to me considering you'll only be changing it when they wear out...so not that often.

Yea an Afam steel sprocket for oem carrier is like $60.

Quick change with sprocket is like $350+

Quick changes are for race bikes that are changing gearing every track.