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2013 MotoGP Round 14 - Aragon (Spoilers!!!)

Started by duccarlos, September 28, 2013, 01:19:48 PM

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Quote from: ducpainter on October 04, 2013, 06:38:22 AM
Soooo...

Are they going to make a rule against racing?

“Yes, it could lead to changes - I would not deny that. As we all know, we care very much for the safety of the riders and in this case it is very clear that an incident has taken place, but at the same time something has not worked as it should have because it is not normal to have a crash like that.”

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2013/javier+alonso+on+MarquezPedrosa+incident

By this article I take that Race Direction might ask the teams to rework the SW so that TC doesn't just default to "get the make the beast with two backs off my back you make the beast with two backsing midget".
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Quote from: gm2 on October 04, 2013, 07:32:04 AM
changes... like a wheel sensor cable cover.  i'm really interested to hear what they say in sepang, since a 'hearing' on this topic seems really odd.

They should definitely hold a hearing.  I propose the first question--

To  HRC:  for a program that otherwise really has their shit together, why did you let a lobotomized monkey design your TC and rear wheel sensor set-up??
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I suspect they will say something to the effect to MM and Dani, that they are ruling it a racing incident, but that MM should heed this as a warning due to the levels of closeness of/for contact with other riders, and therefore should consider himself on notice that should he make contact with another rider that causes a crash, he will be assessed points on his racing liscence. They will then bring it to the attention of DORNA to address with the MSMA to rethink their failsafe modes for their traction systems and use HRC as a prime reference.
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or they dock him 2 points again.

which would be interesting, since if they did that and then george wins all 4 remaining races (unlikely) + MM finishes third in all 4 (also unlikely), then they'd come out equal on points and jorge would be champ based on wins.  without the 2 point minus, MM would still win by 2.

but i don't think any of that'll happen.  MM will be champ.
Like this is the racing, no?

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Quote from: polivo on November 16, 2011, 12:18:55 PM
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Quote from: gm2 on October 04, 2013, 12:42:10 PM
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without the 2 point minus, MM would still win by 2.

but i don't think any of that'll happen.  MM will be champ.

I thought it was like points on your license....
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Quote from: Speeddog on October 04, 2013, 02:34:10 PM
I thought it was like points on your license....
I thought so too...

not championship points.
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Quote from: Speeddog on October 04, 2013, 02:34:10 PM
I thought it was like points on your license....

my understanding as well. Lose so many license points and you have to start from the back of the grid.

ab

So why did JL Look back during the race? BBC guy thought it was a tactic to let him pass and save his tyres.  What do you think?
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Quote from: ab on October 04, 2013, 05:50:34 PM
So why did JL Look back during the race? BBC guy thought it was a tactic to let him pass and save his tyres.  What do you think?

I think JL was riding his ass off and it still wasn't enough.  He saw that MM had made up the entire gap, let him pass and wanted to see if he could stick with him.  If you let MM sit there, he will make a last lap pass anyway.  You might as well let him go, try to stick with him, and make the move yourself. 
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zooom

Quote from: Jester on October 04, 2013, 07:15:06 PM
I think JL was riding his ass off and it still wasn't enough.  He saw that MM had made up the entire gap, let him pass and wanted to see if he could stick with him.  If you let MM sit there, he will make a last lap pass anyway.  You might as well let him go, try to stick with him, and make the move yourself. 

from the outside ( because who can predict what the racer thinks inside his helmet) we know Jorge to be calculating and metronomic and MM to be on the ragged edge and rather unpredictable...so perhaps he wanted to follow this thought process somewhat suggested by Jester and remove a variable as he saw it...perhaps he was looking to see if it was MM and Pedro...saw it was just MM and made that snap decision so that he could be more precise in managing the remainder of his race so that he could calculate his moves for the endgame.
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Triple J

Ya, I think JLo let MM past, figuring he'd do the last corner pass for the win this time. Didn't quite work out for him though.

gm2

Quote from: Triple J on October 04, 2013, 02:58:57 PM
my understanding as well. Lose so many license points and you have to start from the back of the grid.

oh yeah?  must be then.  i've never looked into it.

weird rule.
Like this is the racing, no?