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Wet to dry clutch conversion

Started by nickshelby500kr, October 09, 2013, 06:16:40 PM

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caperix

Quote from: nickshelby500kr on October 10, 2013, 06:32:45 AM
I was able to find a complete trans assembly for a hyper 1100 evo on eBay and it look identical to the design like the monster parts catalog uses. Where as the hyper catalog screenshot the shaft sort of steps down and is threaded outside and inside for some kind of screw. I just need to find an actual monster 1100 evo input shaft to compare.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/400443975742?nav=SEARCH&sbk=1

http://m.ebay.com/itm/161121911008?nav=SEARCH&sbk=1

That looks like the same style input shaft used on the small case motors.  Very strange Ducati, for all the engine being so similar they change alot.

nickshelby500kr

Quote from: caperix on October 10, 2013, 11:03:18 AM
That looks like the same style input shaft used on the small case motors.  Very strange Ducati, for all the engine being so similar they change alot.

Just enough to be a pain in the ass.

nickshelby500kr

We'll I just bought me a hyper 1100 evo clutch side case cover. Dark grey not the awesome gold unfortunately.

So now I need to find a complete hyper clutch assembly from an evo. A monster 1100 might work but I do not know.

nickshelby500kr

Just the clutch is not enough. The dry clutch gear slides onto the wet shaft but is not a match for the wet crank gear. So I will need another crank gear to test if it will actually work on the monster.

I will also need at least one custom spacer. Where the nut theads onto the input shaft. The dry clutch hub nut is a nut/spacer combo of a smaller diameter. The wet clutch hub nut is just a nut directly onto the hub.




nickshelby500kr

Ordered a crank gear from an old multi that I believe will work. Will see what happens.

Skybarney

Watching to see how this turns out! 
Two things I don't do.  Keyboard bullies and hypocrites.
Feel free to PM me if needed, otherwise you will find me elsewhere.

nickshelby500kr

Unfortunately I'm at a stand still. The monster uses a spindle nut style lock nut and requires a special tool, of course only available from ducati.

Pedro-bot

Interesting mod.
Hope you get this to work.  [beer]
1999 M750 AKA Little Blue Monster, 2002 S4, 2006 Sport 1000, 2008 Sport 1000, 2005 749s, 2018 R NineT Urban GS

hackers2r

Are you referring to the ring nut holding the primary gear on?  If so, search for ring nut sockets and you can find a few places that sell them.  You'll need to take a few measurements to get the right one but should be able to find the right tool.

nickshelby500kr

I can't find one. So looks like I'll be making one. Going to cut and notch out a deep socket.

Edit: JK I'm not going to spend $20 on a 28mm deep socket and spend an hour minimum cutting and grinding it.

hackers2r

Well here's one I found in 28mm: http://www.ricambiamerica.com/product_info.php?products_id=262610.
Expensive though. I forget who actually makes the ring nut sockets but there is a brand that makes various sizes.  I'll try to find out and post.

nickshelby500kr

I just went ahead and ordered the duc oem tool. I saw those.

nickshelby500kr

Ducati ring nut socket should be here in a couple days. I'm getting antsy.

I already have everything else.


One more question regarding the 848 kit though, it shows a screw that is supposed to be swapped out next to the front drive sprocket. Can anyone elaborate what this is actually for?

hackers2r

That screw blocks the flow of oil.  It is needed.

nickshelby500kr

Quote from: hackers2r on November 19, 2013, 11:41:15 AM
That screw blocks the flow of oil.  It is needed.

The flow of oil to what?