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2013 MotoGP Round 16 - Phillip Island (Spoilers!)

Started by gm2, October 14, 2013, 07:43:33 AM

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Triple J

Quote from: gm2 on October 24, 2013, 03:10:46 PM
seriously, yamaha?

http://superbikeplanet.com/2013/Oct/131024penalty.htm

Gonna be tough to prove that one, since JLo is on record stating it was 50/50 on cause between him and JLo.

Meanwhile, Stoner was overhead complaining that JLo complains too much!  ;D

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Yamaha are hoping further penalties will boost JLs chances. Looks strategic and whatever it takes. They should be happy with the black flag.
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Quote from: gm2 on October 24, 2013, 03:10:46 PM
seriously, yamaha?

http://superbikeplanet.com/2013/Oct/131024penalty.htm

There's a championship on the line.  Not surprising.  The potential upside is WAAAAY more than the downside for appearing douchey.  Besides, it's not like Lorenzo hasn't recently cornered the market on douche-osity.  Yamaha can't make it any worse for him. 
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Pretty sure nothing will come off the meeting but frankly speaking it was a douchee move by MM as far the way he entered track after pit.  Yamaha is correct in brining it up but it's too late.
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Quote from: ab on October 24, 2013, 04:50:22 PM
Pretty sure nothing will come off the meeting but frankly speaking it was a douchee move by MM as far the way he entered track after pit.  Yamaha is correct in brining it up but it's too late.

+1. Like I've been sayin', this was way more serious than the pit board technicality. The black flag has those things covered. While JL said he braked earlier than normal which may have led MM to think he could squeeze in front, the onus is still on the rider exiting pit lane to not cause a danger or impead riders on the track.

They wanna use  the rules to their advantage? Then Honda could protest and say too late suckers!

Anyway, someone at Bridgestone has already committed Seppuku.
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Quote from: Spidey on October 24, 2013, 04:38:01 PM
There's a championship on the line.  Not surprising.  The potential upside is WAAAAY more than the downside for appearing douchey.  Besides, it's not like Lorenzo hasn't recently cornered the market on douche-osity.  Yamaha can't make it any worse for him. 

As further proof of Jorghey's douchebaggery, I introduce exhibit A: the way that he didn't even acknowledge the fact that he killed the bird in qualy.
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Quote from: duccarlos on October 24, 2013, 05:27:29 PM
As further proof of Jorghey's douchebaggery, I introduce exhibit A: the way that he didn't even acknowledge the fact that he killed the bird in qualy.

Proof that he is ice cold baby.  Screw the bird. 
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Quote from: ab on October 24, 2013, 04:50:22 PM
Pretty sure nothing will come off the meeting but frankly speaking it was a douchee move by MM as far the way he entered track after pit.  Yamaha is correct in brining it up but it's too late.

It's not that black & white.

1. The slow zone on pit exit was extended by Dorna, making it impossible for MM to get up to the proper speed for the corner
2. JLo ran wide (which he admitted)
3. MM ran down a little more than he should have.

Racing incident, caused by Dorna's dumbass idea to run the race in the fashion they did. It was a situation that the riders haven't ever really had to deal with.

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Quote from: Triple J on October 24, 2013, 07:29:46 PM

Racing incident, caused by Dorna's dumbass idea to run the race in the fashion they did. It was a situation that the riders haven't ever really had to deal with.

...except during a wet race, because the procedure is exactly the same (with the exception of being told which laps they must come in).
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Quote from: gm2 on October 24, 2013, 03:10:46 PM
seriously, yamaha?

http://superbikeplanet.com/2013/Oct/131024penalty.htm

Mirrors and blinkers would have prevented this incident.   ;)

Quote from: koko64 on October 24, 2013, 05:14:34 PM

Anyway, someone at Bridgestone has already committed Seppuku.

I know everyone is on Bridgestone for blowing it.  I still feel that whatever tire is available to the rider, it's up to the riders to make that tire last the whole race.  If Bridgestone brought solid plastic tires, the rider needs to take that into account. 

The tires weren't a good match for the track, get over it.  The riders can go out and chunck the crap out of them in the first nine laps and run the risk of not finishing the race or they can control their pace and make it to the end! 

Quote from: Triple J on October 24, 2013, 03:46:54 PM
Meanwhile, Stoner was overhead complaining that JLo complains too much!  ;D

[laugh]  Priceless!

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Quote from: derby on October 25, 2013, 04:09:37 AM
...except during a wet race, because the procedure is exactly the same (with the exception of being told which laps they must come in).

Good point, I forgot about that.