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RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman

Started by Speedbag, February 02, 2014, 01:04:58 PM

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#1
Wow.

RIP


sadly another junkie

from Yahoo:
The actor was found with a needle in his arm and apparent heroin was found at the scene.


even sadder:
He has three children, Tallulah Hoffman, Cooper Alexander Hoffman and Willa Hoffman, all under the age of 11
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That is really make the beast with two backsed up, dude was a great actor.
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fastwin

Heroin is never good. Hope that wasn't the case here.

RIP

My thoughts and prayers to his kiddos and their Mom.
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Wow. One of the greats. What a huge loss.
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Reminds me of Dion Sanders great advise to Russle Wilson last night. "There will be a lot of left turns ahead of you now. Just keep going right. Just keep going right."
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I loved this guy, what a fantastic actor. By far , for me ,his best role was  in charlie wilsons war.
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When Marco died... people said, " he died doing what he loved. "

When Joey Dunlop died... people said, " he died doing what he loved. "

When Ayrton Senna died... people said, " he died doing what he loved. "

Will people say the same for Philip?

Clearly the man had demons that caused him to care more for a drug, than that of his children... and I find that sad.








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Quote from: bobspapa on February 03, 2014, 05:48:33 PM
When Marco died... people said, " he died doing what he loved. "

When Joey Dunlop died... people said, " he died doing what he loved. "

When Ayrton Senna died... people said, " he died doing what he loved. "

Will people say the same for Philip?

Clearly the man had demons that caused him to care more for a drug, than that of his children... and I find that sad.


fwiw, his history of substance abuse and addiction pre-dates fatherhood.

to your earlier point, i'm not sure you could say one "loves" heroin more than their children, just that they can't stop chasing that feeling (or lack of) it gives.
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#9
maybe it's just me....but I would think having children would be enough of a reason to want to stay sober.

I read a past interview of his where he claimed to love drugs and alcohol... that's why I wrote love, and not chasing a high.

It can be argued that Joey, Marco, and Senna were also chasing a high.

A different kind of high, but one none the less.
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#10
I've always disliked that saying that someone died doing what they loved. No one loves being run over during a race. I had a great friend get killed a coupla weekends ago. Riding was what he loved, not low siding and crashing into a pole at 100mph.
Regarding addiction, it most often trumps all of our basic needs including concern for family, friends, etc. It's terribly sad.
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He was an entertainer, that's all.  He lived a rarefied lifestyle because of his access and acclaim, but we all know we give too much importance to entertainers.

It's sad he died because he had a family and was a human being.

Everything else is just BS.

Who knows what he would have done tomorrow?  Pulled a Brando and lived on a desert island banging 13 year olds?  Joined a monastery?  Done a terrible remake of Dil Se?

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fastwin

Quote from: Blackout on February 04, 2014, 06:52:12 AM
Regarding addiction, it most often trumps all of our basic needs including concern for family, friends, etc. It's terribly sad.


Addiction of any kind can be devastating and it cares not who you are, what you do or how rich and famous you are. Particularly drug and alcohol addiction.

I ran state district felony criminal courts for many years and my wife has been a felony probation officer in those same courts for even longer. We have seen what addiction can do to people. Nice, affluent folks and what you'd call "terrible" folks. The results were the same.

One of our courthouse friends (an attorney) now has a pending drug possession charge in my wife's court. The police and ambulance were called to a cheap dive motel because he was passed out on the bed with hookers surrounded by needles and bags of dope. Sound like Hoffman's scene? He's a great guy and a very good defense attorney who (like was mentioned in a previous post) stopped making right turns and took a hard left.

He lost his wife, who knows if he sees his kids, will assuredly be put on some sort of probation by the State Bar (or have his license suspended) resulting in loss of income and has lost many good friends who grew tired of trying to help. Again, he's a good guy that addiction has dragged into the abyss. Our prayers are with him and his family. Thank God he wasn't found dead of an overdose. At least he has a chance with the right court ordered help. Probably in a lock down facility for an extended period of time. And even that is no guarantee. It never is.

So unless you (or a friend/loved one) has been an addict please do not throw rocks at those that are or those that have been. Therefore but for the grace of God go I.
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I have flying honey badgers and I'm not afraid to use them!

The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."

CONFIDENCE: the feeling you have right before you understand the situation.

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^Fastwin, I have been a social worker with Child Protective Services for many years and have seen many people lose relationships, children, jobs, housing, their freedom and ultimately their lives as a result. The addiction takes over part of the brain that makes decisions and cries out to be fed. It sucks for them and everyone who loves them.
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Reports are that this may have been a part of a batch that was mixed with Morphine.  If so, he is not the first to die from it or probably even the last.  I watched drug addiction put several friends in the hospital, jails or graves over the years.

Scary stuff that.
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