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NEW MONSTER 821

Started by DarkMonster620, May 28, 2014, 06:01:47 AM

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Rudemouthsky

Quote from: BALROGG on September 20, 2014, 03:11:05 PM
Hey guys! I picked up the 821 Dark on August 17th and I am IN LOVE with this bike! More on that later...

Now as far as taking care of these matte/flat/satin finishes, you CANNOT use traditional waxes & paint sealants due to the glossifiers that they contain. Waxes/sealants will want to make any paint job shiny, which makes your awesome matte finish looked nasty and confused. I was using a simple detail spray (which contains a light wax) on my "Dark" finish and after a few weeks and a few applications it started to look splotchy, stained and greasy. I diluted a very gentle degreaser with water and sprayed it on a MF Towel, then I successfully removed all the detail-spray (and thus the wax) and it looked fantastic again! So instead have started looking into something like these products The Chemical Guys and Dr. Beasly's.

The Chemical Guys
http://www.chemicalguys.com/Matte_Plastidip_Paint_Vinyl_Care_s/342.htm

Dr. Beasly's
http://www.drbeasleys.com/shop/car-care-products/matte-car-care.html

Ammonia free glass cleaner. I tried many pricey cleaners designed for matte black finishes on my 750D and this equalled them all. And costs $1 at Dollar General. ;)
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

Rudemouthsky

By the way that's one hell of an odd first post, comin on here and plugging some expensive ass cleaners...I smell spam.
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

BALROGG

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Quote from: Buck Naked on September 20, 2014, 03:26:10 PM
By the way that's one hell of an odd first post, comin on here and plugging some expensive ass cleaners...I smell spam.

Paranoid much? I am a professional detailer by trade and hobby and I was simply suggesting some products that are designed to seal your matte/satin finishes. These types of finishes need to be cleaned in a different way, with different chemicals to properly maintain that appearance. Sure you can buy ammonia free glass cleaner, or you can buy alcohol and dilute it with water, or you can use a light degreaser to clean the paint, All cheap and easy methods.

The problem is that if you stop there then you have no protection for your paint going into the next few months. Its just the sun, air, and dust directly interacting with your clear coat. But if you manage to pickup a product, - WHATEVER product you can find - that is made for especially for matte finishes then you should have a matte finish that is more resistant to exposure concerns and will retain a healthy and fresh look.

Above all else I am super excited about the 821! I have put just over 500 miles on the clock and the only thing that makes me curious is the amount of heat that seems to come off of the right hand side near the exhaust, sometimes it can really get quite hot on my right calf. Now I am starting to think that it might actually be the lack of a "full" heat shield near where the exhaust header connects to the engine. It is nowhere near painful or unnerving, but I would say it is noticeable if you find yourself frequently stopped.

I ran the first bit of my break-in on the "Urban" driving map in order to learn the bike with a safer threshold, and then made my way into "Touring" after a few hundred miles and DAMN! What a difference in power between these modes! Now, Urban and Touring  are both great in their own respects but its not until you hit "Sport" mode that you really feel this thing fly, it is a great difference. I could discuss more aspects of the bike but Ill do that in my own thread someday. For now I will put up some pictures of my 821 Dark...








Rudemouthsky

Quote from: BALROGG on September 20, 2014, 04:58:44 PM
Paranoid much?

Nope. Just calling out skeezy behavior. I didn't bother with the rest if your 5 page cool story either bro, go tell it in the "introductions" section.
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

BALROGG

Quote from: Buck Naked on September 20, 2014, 05:25:11 PM
Nope. Just calling out skeezy behavior. I didn't bother with the rest if your 5 page cool story either bro, go tell it in the "introductions" section.

Very Cool, can you take me by the hand and show me the way? :D

Curmudgeon

2011 796 ABS "Pantah" - Rizoma Bar, 14T, Tech Spec, Ohlins DU-737, Evaps removed, Sargent Seat, Pantah skins

Mike P

Quote from: Curmudgeon on September 19, 2014, 03:45:35 PM
I'm assumeing the bar is straight and flat as it was on 796/1100 EVO. If so, as long as it fits, consider the MA008A which is a bit higher and also gives the wrists a lot of relief. Check dimensions. http://www.motovationusa.com/mvstore/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=562

On my 796. http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/282951-1/Rt_-Above.jpg

Thanks.  I will look into that. 

Mike
Mike
2015 821 Monster
2014 XL1200C Sportster
2014 Moto Guzzi California 1400
2011 Bonneville T100
2006 Moto Guzzi Griso

Mike P

Quote from: ungeheuer on September 20, 2014, 12:17:20 AM
Congrats on your new Monster  [thumbsup]

Its a little too much Diavel Sportster for my taste.  Although I have no doubt it's a fine and powerful ride.



HA!  I never thought of that, but I can see where you are coming from. I actually think the Dark fits the attitude I see emerging in this bike.
Mike
2015 821 Monster
2014 XL1200C Sportster
2014 Moto Guzzi California 1400
2011 Bonneville T100
2006 Moto Guzzi Griso

Mike P

Quote from: Curmudgeon on September 19, 2014, 03:45:35 PM
I'm assumeing the bar is straight and flat as it was on 796/1100 EVO. If so, as long as it fits, consider the MA008A which is a bit higher and also gives the wrists a lot of relief. Check dimensions. http://www.motovationusa.com/mvstore/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=562

On my 796. http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/282951-1/Rt_-Above.jpg

One other quick question:  Did you have to change any cables?  there isn't a lot of cable slack on the 821.

Thanks.
Mike
2015 821 Monster
2014 XL1200C Sportster
2014 Moto Guzzi California 1400
2011 Bonneville T100
2006 Moto Guzzi Griso

Curmudgeon

Quote from: Mike P on September 22, 2014, 10:44:29 AM
One other quick question:  Did you have to change any cables?  there isn't a lot of cable slack on the 821.

Thanks.
There isn't a lot of slack on any of them. All my stuff was fitted by the dealer prior to delivery. He'd told me that he might have to route something behind the fork to gain some slack, but it doesn't appear he did. In the process he might have loosened and rotated some fittings. No idea. Perhaps your dealer knows as some people fit risers. If you have no luck, call Nathan at Duc Pond as he might know. Early days with 821's though.
2011 796 ABS "Pantah" - Rizoma Bar, 14T, Tech Spec, Ohlins DU-737, Evaps removed, Sargent Seat, Pantah skins

hazem77

Monster 821 ;-)

The ModFather

Congrats!!  [thumbsup] Youre going to have a blast on that bike!
2005 S2R 800 Analog Motorcycles Custom Build
2007 Sport Classic 1000S
2008 848 Track Bike
2015 Diavel Dark - Sold
2005 Monster 620 Dark - Sold

Bladecutter

Got to test ride the 821 on Saturday at one of my local Ducati stores.

I actually was with my wife, and we were riding two up on my friend's '07 S2R1k, as we swapped bikes for a couple of weeks so that my wife and I can ride 2 up.

Anyway, rode the 821, and loved the clutch, chassis is very light, and extremely responsive to inputs, but the engine itself felt like it was neutered.
I was expecting more of an 848 engine feel, but it had nothing other than just clean power. No excitement.

The S2R1k I was riding felt much more lively.
Or maybe it's just that Ducati finally got the fuel mappings correct, and made the engine boring by accident.

It's a good bike, but it didn't make me want to trade in my friend's S2R1k for it.

Then I test rode the 899 Panigale.
Again, much lighter feeling bike, better ergos than my 848, though I hate the turn signal switch/mode button, it just feels horrible to me.
Engine felt good and clean in the fueling, but this one actually had personality, unlike the 821 motor.

The 899 almost made me call my friend to bring my bike to the dealer so I could replace it.
Good thing we swapped bikes. :)

BC.


DarkMonster620

from where did you source the tank protector?

Carlos
I said I was smart, never that I had my shit together
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