NEW MONSTER 821

[HotIce]

He mentioned the 1200S in his post, that's why the 112HP figure did not add up.

[Cynic]

I find the reactions on this thread hilarious. When the S4 was first launched, the Monster "purists" were screaming about the extra plumbing. When the 696 came out, all owners were up in arms because of the lack of trellis. Now the 1200/821 comes out and the guys with 696/796/1100 are up in arms. If I was still interested in riding on the street, I would be looking at upgrading to the 1200s.

+1
Except I'm looking at the 821
I ride too much to deal with 6k service intervals anymore.

[the_Journeyman]

821 is listed at 112 hp on the Ducati site...so that's their rating at the crank. Probably like 100-105 at the wheel. Not all that bad really for a street-tuned twin.

That's almost double my M750s HP numbers.

JM

[Vishwacorp]

He mentioned the 1200S in his post, that's why the 112HP figure did not add up.

Yupp, I got my 1200 and 821 confused.

[DUCAZ]

I can get past the fugly left side and actually like the metal tank shape and the power is clearly a huge boost.  But what i can't get past is when I went and test drove the new 1200 last month was ergo's of the bike.  It felt very bizarre and the position of the footpegs was like mid-controls and such an upright posture.  I'm used to a more aggressive position.
It seemed to me like the reviews were just knit picking about the foot pegs on the 1200 so I went in with an open mind, but I was shocked at how much rear passenger pegs interfered with my ability to place the balls of my feet properly on the pegs.  You literally have to turn your toes inward to have your heels outward to fit.  How in the world did Ducati not catch this?  What's even more disturbing is there is not really an easy fix to this without chopping into your new bike.  I really really really wanted to like this bike but after the test drive when I jumped on my older air cooled monster I was happy to be back on it.  I still haven't ruled it out because I'm such a fan of the power, but it has a two strikes against it.

[Skybarney]

If it's power you are after why even buy a new Ducati?  The KTM Super Duke has more power than god and similar pricing.  Paint that it Red put a Ducati sticker on it and it will look more like a Duc than the new 1200.......   

[Autostrada Pilot]

If it's power you are after why even buy a new Ducati?  The KTM Super Duke has more power than god and similar pricing.  Paint that it Red put a Ducati sticker on it and it will look more like a Duc than the new 1200.......   

[Curmudgeon]

If it's power you are after why even buy a new Ducati?  The KTM Super Duke has more power than god and similar pricing.  Paint that it Red put a Ducati sticker on it and it will look more like a Duc than the new 1200.......   

So, buy one. You'll be back when you miss the "heartbeat" and low CG. Unless of course you grew up on a Rice Rocket... 

[Triple J]

So, buy one. You'll be back when you miss the "heartbeat" and low CG. Unless of course you grew up on a Rice Rocket... 

Have you ridden a KTM streetbike?

I can't speak to the SD specifically, but my 990 SMT was BY FAR the best handling street bike I have ever owned. It was leap years ahead of my 2 Monsters, 2 Multistradas (gen.1), and the new Multi and Diavel that I did extended test rides on. I can't believe the SD would be any different. The motor was friggin' awesome as well, even if it was down on power to the 11* Multi/Diavel motor.

[DarkMonster620]

Good "side by side" of M796 and M821

[teddy037.3]

hmmmmmmmm.

[The ModFather]

I can get past the fugly left side and actually like the metal tank shape and the power is clearly a huge boost.  But what i can't get past is when I went and test drove the new 1200 last month was ergo's of the bike.  It felt very bizarre and the position of the footpegs was like mid-controls and such an upright posture.  I'm used to a more aggressive position.
It seemed to me like the reviews were just knit picking about the foot pegs on the 1200 so I went in with an open mind, but I was shocked at how much rear passenger pegs interfered with my ability to place the balls of my feet properly on the pegs.  You literally have to turn your toes inward to have your heels outward to fit.  How in the world did Ducati not catch this?  What's even more disturbing is there is not really an easy fix to this without chopping into your new bike.  I really really really wanted to like this bike but after the test drive when I jumped on my older air cooled monster I was happy to be back on it.  I still haven't ruled it out because I'm such a fan of the power, but it has a two strikes against it.

These are easy fixes. It's a Ducati "Modster" for crying out loud... which means that it wont be long before you see after market rearsets that address the passenger foot peg interference by either moving or eliminating them plus throw on some clips-ons and BAM youve now got an aggressive riding position with a comfortable seat.

[ungeheuer]

Good "side by side" of M796 and M821

Great.

Now show me the left side.

[xsephirot]

Good "side by side" of M796 and M821

Each iteration has less and less frame. Not a fan

[Slide Panda]

SF has been dead for a while.

Yep... lowest selling model in the line...

I called that one dead about a year ago. Basically as soon as rumors of a water cooled monster became a little more than speculation