Harley to resurrect the VR-1000 and compete in WSBK again...

Started by Rudemouthsky, April 01, 2015, 06:52:39 PM

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Rudemouthsky

April 01, 2015, 06:52:39 PM
This has always been one of my biggest scoffs at this company, that they tucked their tails and quit when Japan started kicking everyones asses, so I guess I gotta tip my cap to 'em.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/harley-davidson-resurrects-vr-1000-150312488.html
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Dirty Duc

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April 01, 2015, 06:58:31 PM
Pull the other one, it's got bells on. ;)

kopfjäger

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April 01, 2015, 08:35:48 PM
Tucked their tails? I was at an HD dealership today at 1400 on a Wednesday and there was numerous customers and plenty of bikes in the parking lot with riders smoking and joking. I don't think their hurting one bit. More than 50 bikes on the floor of all the models they sell.
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Rudemouthsky

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April 01, 2015, 09:29:27 PM
Quote from: kopfjäger on April 01, 2015, 08:35:48 PM
Tucked their tails? I was at an HD dealership today at 1400 on a Wednesday and there was numerous customers and plenty of bikes in the parking lot with riders smoking and joking. I don't think their hurting one bit. More than 50 bikes on the floor of all the models they sell.

So they sell a lot of bikes...so what... The original VR1000 failed and they quit...took the fairings off that heap and called it the vRod. Kudos for trying again.
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

The Don

#4
April 02, 2015, 04:06:53 AM
Is this a April 1st storey?
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Rudemouthsky

#5
April 02, 2015, 05:44:05 AM
Ah shite...I think I've been had!
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

Rudemouthsky

#6
April 02, 2015, 05:48:13 AM
Would've been cool if it was true  :-[
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

Bill in OKC

#7
April 02, 2015, 08:34:54 AM
With Harley's resources I'd think they could put up a respectable show if they wanted to.  They had their hands on MV Agusta for a while and look what EBR has done with a fraction of what HD could pour in.  With the company run by business weenies they'll probably sell the whole mess to China before fronting a superbike team.
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MadDuck

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April 02, 2015, 09:13:08 AM
I just gotta say......... if your business was hugely successful, and built on a model that has nothing to do with road racing any longer, why would you pour money down a hole that would have no benefit to you?
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1.21GW

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April 02, 2015, 10:03:50 AM
Quote from: MadDuck on April 02, 2015, 09:13:08 AM
I just gotta say......... if your business was hugely successful, and built on a model that has nothing to do with road racing any longer, why would you pour money down a hole that would have no benefit to you?

Agreed.  It does nothing to market to your customer base.  Would have a better chance to improve bottom line if Harley created a tractor-pull team or a NASCAR team. 

(Not trying to mock HD owners, just making an exaggerated point.)
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kopfjäger

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April 02, 2015, 03:48:32 PM
Quote from: MadDuck on April 02, 2015, 09:13:08 AM
I just gotta say......... if your business was hugely successful, and built on a model that has nothing to do with road racing any longer, why would you pour money down a hole that would have no benefit to you?

Ding ding ding  ;)
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Rudemouthsky

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April 02, 2015, 04:58:48 PM
Quote from: MadDuck on April 02, 2015, 09:13:08 AM
I just gotta say......... if your business was hugely successful, and built on a model that has nothing to do with road racing any longer, why would you pour money down a hole that would have no benefit to you?

If Harley made a proper sportbike that performed I would buy it. And to make one requires gaining the necessary experience competing (and losing). I'm sure I'm not the only one.

The make the beast with two backsers practically print money at this point..it's not like they have anything to lose.
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April 02, 2015, 05:06:08 PM
The XRTT was a good looking bike.

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ducpainter

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April 02, 2015, 05:13:49 PM
Quote from: Rudemouthsky on April 02, 2015, 04:58:48 PM
If Harley made a proper sportbike that performed I would buy it. And to make one requires gaining the necessary experience competing (and losing). I'm sure I'm not the only one.

The make the beast with two backsers practically print money at this point..it's not like they have anything to lose.
But seriously...from a business standpoint why the make the beast with two backs would they want to throw away millions upon millions of dollars?

I hate to say this...but they don't really care if you want them to go racing, and the bike you may...or may not buy...

doesn't mean squat.

Seriously.
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Rudemouthsky

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April 02, 2015, 05:51:25 PM
Well then it's official...Harley is what we thought they were...a company that regurgitates crappy 40 year old technology year after year to fleece lame posers. I know they don't care about that either. I'm just sayin' it not only would be cool to see an American company sack up and go racing but it wouldn't hurt their bottom line any at the worst case scenario. They'd sell some bikes out of the deal and may even have a whole new wildly profitable chunk of the market share in a few years.

At some point Harley *will* fade away the way they do business..and it'll serve em right. Just like Kmart and Stroh's beer.
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