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Trade-in Monster for new Multistrada?

Started by DucHead, October 20, 2015, 11:26:48 AM

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DucHead

I've had my '05 Monster S4R (Desmoquattro) for 10 years/48k miles now and its one of 4 bikes.

I'm looking for a new touring rig that provides more comfort than my '04 Bandit 1200S.  The Bandit's been great, but with 92000 miles on the clock, the cam chain's a bit stretched (OEM spring-loaded tensioner replaced with a manual one) and although it's running flawlessly, I'm not too confident about taking it back-and-forth across the country anymore.

I figure that the Monster is worth far more than a Bandit with 92k miles ( [laugh] ), and maintaining 2 Ducatis would require too much effort, time and money (plus 5 bikes in the garage would be manly, but a tight fit).

So, I'd like to hear a few opinions on a possible trade and in particular I'd like to hear from anyone with a new Multi who tours on it.  Is it comfortable?  Wind protection?
'05 S4R (>47k mi); '04 Bandit 1200 (>92k mi; sold); '02 Bandit 1200 (>11k mi); '97 Bandit 1200 (2k mi); '13 FJR1300 (1k mi); IBA #28454 "45"

DarkMonster620

Sell the older Bandit, new engines are service friendly regarding spacing, 600miles and then 18000miles or if you want to change oil and filter at least once a year is a 4hr job, oil/filter change, air filter inspection, rear hub lub, front wheel bearing check, fluids levels check . . . and on the 18000miles mark, valve check/adjustment, 60 months-belt replacement ..

my $0.02
Carlos
I said I was smart, never that I had my shit together
Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AM
Ducati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

DucHead

Thanks Darkmonster620!  I failed to mention that I do all my own maintenance: valve lash, tires, oil change, belts, jetting, etc.

The older Bandit is only worth maybe $1000.
'05 S4R (>47k mi); '04 Bandit 1200 (>92k mi; sold); '02 Bandit 1200 (>11k mi); '97 Bandit 1200 (2k mi); '13 FJR1300 (1k mi); IBA #28454 "45"

DarkMonster620

MODEL      PARTS NEEDED / COST         PRECIO SUGERIDO DE VENTA UNITARIO   PRECIO DE VENTA SUGERIDO TOTAL      COSTO REPUESTOS MSSA                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                           REPUESTOS   M/O   REPUESTOS   M/O   REPUESTOS   M/O      
MTS1200/S/GT/PP                                                             1000 KMS/6 months 12 000 KMS/12 months 24 000 KMS/24 months
                44440035A   FILTER, OIL                                   1   18.83             18.83      4.71   *      *      *         
      85250421A   COPPER GASKET 12.2X18X1.5 MM   1   0.76                     0.76      0.05   *      *      *         
DIAVEL*   73740251A*TIMING DRIVE TOOTHED BELT       2   77.09                  154.18      38.55               *         
      67040381A*SPARK PLUG NGK MAR10A-J           4   39.23             56.92      39.23               *         
      42610201A*FILTER, AIR                              1   96.93                    96.93      24.23               *         
      840100X2A   ADJUSTER OPENING ROCKER           8   8.28                    66.24      60.94               *         
      8401041X2BADJUSTER CLOSING ROCKER           8   17.72                   141.76      130.42               *         
      66910011E   C-RING                                   16   4.00                     64.00      23.68               *         
      42520011A   FUEL FILTER                           1   56.51                      56.51      14.13               *         
      61340411A**   FRONT BRAKE PADS SET   2   133.46             266.92                              
      MOTOR OIL 10W40                               4   21.50               86      32.74   *      *      *         
TIME      TIME UNIT = 0.1/Hr or 6 minutes                        1.50      5.30      7.00      13.80
HOURLY RATE                   45                                          
TOTAL W/PARTS                        $368.68   $105.59   $67.50   $105.59   $238.50   $839.39   $315.00   
PRECIO TOTAL DEL SERVICIO                                 $173.09              $344.09            $1,154.39                


Sorry about how it pasted, those are the costs for the MTS1200/Diavel, models and part numbers and aprox cost to puble
Carlos
I said I was smart, never that I had my shit together
Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AM
Ducati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

NAKID

Quote from: DarkMonster620 on October 20, 2015, 04:22:16 PM
Sell the older Bandit, new engines are service friendly regarding spacing, 600miles and then 18000miles or if you want to change oil and filter at least once a year is a 4hr job, oil/filter change, air filter inspection, rear hub lub, front wheel bearing check, fluids levels check . . . and on the 18000miles mark, valve check/adjustment, 60 months-belt replacement ..

my $0.02

Why is changing the oil and air filter a 4 hour job? Also, I noticed the horizontal cylinder timing belt cover has an air filter in it. Why?
2005 S2R800
2006 S2R1000
2015 Monster 821

DarkMonster620

Quote from: NAKID on October 20, 2015, 04:59:11 PM
Why is changing the oil and air filter a 4 hour job? Also, I noticed the horizontal cylinder timing belt cover has an air filter in it. Why?
for yearly service? because of this, : once a year is a 4hr job, oil/filter change, air filter inspection, rear hub lub, front wheel bearing check, fluids levels check . .  on the MTS1200 you need to take bodywork off . . on M821 is much less time
Carlos
I said I was smart, never that I had my shit together
Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AM
Ducati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

NAKID

Quote from: DarkMonster620 on October 20, 2015, 05:18:00 PM
for yearly service? because of this, : once a year is a 4hr job, oil/filter change, air filter inspection, rear hub lub, front wheel bearing check, fluids levels check . .  on the MTS1200 you need to take bodywork off . . on M821 is much less time


Ahhhh, good point.
2005 S2R800
2006 S2R1000
2015 Monster 821

DucHead

LOL, maybe I should look at the Yamaha FJR1300.  Shaft drive is looking attractive...
'05 S4R (>47k mi); '04 Bandit 1200 (>92k mi; sold); '02 Bandit 1200 (>11k mi); '97 Bandit 1200 (2k mi); '13 FJR1300 (1k mi); IBA #28454 "45"

DarkMonster620

Quote from: DucHead on October 21, 2015, 01:49:03 PM
LOL, maybe I should look at the Yamaha FJR1300.  Shaft drive is looking attractive...
nah . . .  Chain drive can be "fixed" everywhere
Carlos
I said I was smart, never that I had my shit together
Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AM
Ducati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

EvilSteve

I put 5200 miles on a 2015 MTS S Touring (I'd upgraded from a 2012 MTS S Touring). Depending on your height and dimensions, the 2015 can be pretty comfortable for longer distances. The higher seat works better for me (I'm 5'9" with a 30" inseam) for my knees but the lower seat works better for wind protection. The bike is pretty comfortable over all, however. I rode it nearly 1000 miles for a weekend trip, felt pretty good over all. The S model has the latest skyhook suspension which works very, very well. The motor is great (with the new map that was released this week 10/27/2015, hopefully fixes the tune which wasn't great). The handling is awesome, I could drag a knee on it. Milage was pretty good on mine but I tend to take it super, super easy when I'm touring so my best, I think, was 52mpg 130 miles and put 2.9 gal in it's 5.3 gal tank.

There were a bunch of issues with the bike that you'll find discussion on over at ducati.net forums that some were cool with but I wasn't so I ended up trading it on another bike. I'd wait (unless you already pulled the trigger) for the map to be show to resolve the fueling issues and then check out the other MTS forum to get a better idea of what's going on with the 2015.
2011 M796

DucHead

Thanks evilsteve.  I'm now thinking the Multi is not for me.
'05 S4R (>47k mi); '04 Bandit 1200 (>92k mi; sold); '02 Bandit 1200 (>11k mi); '97 Bandit 1200 (2k mi); '13 FJR1300 (1k mi); IBA #28454 "45"

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ungeheuer

I've begun thinking about not trading the Monster in on a Multistrada 1200s DVT....   [evil]
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ungeheuer

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