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SS Bolts = THE BOMB

Started by Howley, July 28, 2008, 05:56:56 AM

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Popeye the Sailor

Quote from: TAftonomos on July 29, 2008, 12:36:49 PM
Some people want them, others don't.  For those that are weight loss fanatics like me, everything adds up.  8 ounces here, and 16 ounces there ends up being a few pounds.  If you appy that to the entire bike, you end up with something much lighter weight.  Nice thing about Ti bolts is you can do it a small bit at a time, here or there.  Why would I use a stainless bolt when I can buy the same fastener for just a smidge more in Ti?  Remember, I'm crazy...I want to have a set of Mag triples made for my monster to drop weight.

Rotating weight is where it's best spent though, or at the front or rear ends unsprung.

It all adds up (or doesn't)

There are *infinitely* more useful things to address before the weight of your bolts.

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He Man

Im only 142. If i loose 10 lbs, theres not much of me left. Id be loosing muscle mass...but look on the bright side, i could eat alot of  [bacon]! and buttery [popcorn], all the  [wine] and steaks, and have a  [beer] or when im alone, i can just  [drink], only to drink  [coffee] when i have a hangover.

wow theres al ot of food related icons.

who can turn that into the exact words i was thinking?
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TAftonomos

Quote from: someguy on July 29, 2008, 07:39:36 PM
There are *infinitely* more useful things to address before the weight of your bolts.

There sure are a lot of things you can address before you go through the bolts.

IMHO however, I'm not going to go to the trouble of making a carbon muffler bracket to hang the shotgun termi's and then put back on the stock bolts.  Or change out the headlight brackets for carbon ones and re-use the stock hardware.  Same for the clutch, clutch cover, rotor bolts, etc.

Would you go to the expense of putting CMC rotors on your bike and then use steel bolts on them?

It's all about the whole package, not just replacing a few pieces of hardware with Ti.  [wine]

monsta

maybe a good idea is if we write the size of bolts down as we change them out, post and compile them here so that we dont have to pull them out and measure before we order.... ??
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Capo

Quote from: someguy on July 28, 2008, 07:29:38 PM
So the only real benefit from either is being able to say "I have titanium/stainless bolts on my bike".

Or you could say I have rusty OEM bolts on my bike


Capo de tuti capi

Popeye the Sailor

Quote from: Capo on July 30, 2008, 04:46:21 PM
Or you could say I have rusty OEM bolts on my bike

Yes, that's exactly it. These things rot away at the drop of a hat.
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He Man

a good way to prevent rusty bolts is to smuther bacon grease on the bolt heads.
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TAftonomos

Quote from: He Man on July 30, 2008, 07:03:34 PM
a good way to prevent rusty bolts is to smuther bacon grease on the bolt heads.
[bacon] [bacon] [bacon]

LOL, I couldn't figure out WTF that was....something clicked...it's BAAACON!

[bacon] [bacon] [bacon] [laugh] [laugh]

He Man

you actually thought bacon grease was a techicaly term for some rust proof grease?  [laugh]
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Popeye the Sailor

Quote from: He Man on July 30, 2008, 08:32:27 PM
you actually thought bacon grease was a techicaly term for some rust proof grease?  [laugh]

It must be-there is not rust on me innards.  ;D
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sydmonster

One last thing for any one reading this thread. There is a reason why Ducati/wshops spec certain tourque settings for bolts.
Both engine covers on these engines are cast items, the threads can easily be stripped, its a down side of the metalurgy (ie the way its built) of the cast metal.
So stronger bolts means being extra carefull not to strip the thread in the case. When your renching on these new SS/Ti bolts remember that the case is now the weak part.... so use a tourque wrench.
There is some logic to simple OEM bolts, replacing a weak bolt is much cheaper/easier than repairs on a stripped cover. - Chris
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uclabiker06

Why would it be better to replace the bolts when the bike is newer?  Is there a noticeable difference in aesthetics between SS & TI?
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Capo

The tourque on any fastener, is calculated to achieve a design pre-load (or clamping) force, taking into account any stretching of the fastener. In general, the torque figures given by Ducati can be used on SS & Ti fasteners.

The 'weaker' metal of a threaded joint will fail first, in most cases, this will be the threaded hole in the aluminium component.

I recommend the use of an anti sieze compound when using SS, Ti or Al fasteners.

Pro Bolt's SS fasteners are polished, the finish is superior to Ti


Capo de tuti capi

He Man

Its better to replace them now than later because of corrosion. The metal will corrode and the anti sieze (if there was any placed in by the factory) begins to dry out. At which point, it may end up siezing, or the head of the fastener has corroded, so the surface of the screw is soft and will give way when you apply pressure. Take this for instance, the person bike who i helped removed the 12 rotor screws. The bike only has about 12,000 miles on it. Its an 07 695 so its not even 2 years old yet. But its an everyday commuter bike + weekend warrior + its parked outside. the salt left over from the winter wore out the fasteners head. When i used a allen key on it, the head stripped like butter. When i drilled it out and dug a torx into the body of it, the torx ended up twisting like butter. so i had a broken screw, and a broken tool bit. lol.
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