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Could you suggest a suspension setup pls?

Started by Cucciolo, August 20, 2008, 06:50:44 PM

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Setting up your suspension and getting new suspension are two completely different things.  I don't recommend you get new suspension until you see what it feels like to ride your bike with the suspension set correctly for you.  I think the key factors in setting it up correctly are 1) finding the right guy or guru and 2)providing him with as much detailed info about your riding style as possible.  As a matter of fact when I talked to a suspension technician he encouraged me to mess with the adjustments as much as possible before meeting up with him.  If you want take your sag to the min; see how it feels for a while.  Then take it to the max and see how it feels.  Try to notice  how your bike feels uphill versus downhill on the same stretch of road?  Things like that will give you a gauge.  Good luck.
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Not to confuse the issue but I asked Dan Kyle of Dan Kyle Racing , (a former AMA Racer ) what would make my 1098R turn faster ( I ride it agressively on the street only ). After I gave him about 6 pieces of information he gave me a typed page of changes to make for my bike just to make it turn a little faster.

For someone like julianista it may be overwhelming to hear what I read, but a simple solution may be best for someone who really doesn't understand how complicated suspension tuning can be and will that person want to go to the time and expense that it takes to reach perfection.

I would say( for the average rider so to speak) , minor adjustments probably will mean as much to them since their riding demands aren't such that they need the most correct setup . Especially if they are closer to the so called average person that Ducati sets their bikes up for from the Factory.

There is no doubt better parts to replace those that come on a Ducati from the Factory are readily available .

I'd like to see more effort in the area of working w/ the bike as it is when it comes to the suspension for street riding.

Setting rider Sag and adjusting any dampening  adjusters .

Unless a rider rides agressively on the street it seems like overkill to be replacing Springs and Shocks and revalving Forks , not to mention the expense.   Dolph
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Quote from: julianista on August 23, 2008, 08:28:12 PM
this is some great info...... would changing the valves and springs be too expensive? are the parts or the labor what's expensive ? if it is too much (I am saving for pipes)... maybe at least the tech can set up what I have to make it the best possible... I live in nashville.
You can call Ohlins USA in Hendersonville, N.C. and see how much they would charge you to revalve your Forks if you have Ohlins  Forks.

Come to think of it , I don't think you have Ohlins Forks do you ?  Dolph

First thing and the least expensive would be to have your local Ducati Tech set your Rider Sag. The Ducati Tech will take measurements w/ you on your bike on a bike lift. Just be sure to wear what you would normally wear when you ride so there is an accurate measure of your total weight on the bike and the Tech will do the rest.

Won't take but a couple of minutes to get the necessary measurements and after the Rider Sag is set by the Tech if you have any other dampening adjusters like preload, rebound, compression the Tech will ask you what you don't like about how your bike feels when you ride it or what you want your bike to do that it is not doing .

If you can't get what you want done at the Dealership, then you would need to talk to someone like GP Suspensions, Dan Kyle Racing, or any other motorcycle suspension shop for advice . Check the internet if there is nobody local . There should be some local Ducati riders who you can get in touch w/ that may beable to help you.  Dolph
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ducpainter

I'm pretty sure his bike has Showa fully adjustable forks.

I don't believe they can be adjusted enough with the parts installed to match his weight or riding style.

It is true a good suspension guy can make a difference with the stock parts...but I don't think he'll make the springs work with a rider of 135 lbs.
Quote from: julianista on August 23, 2008, 08:28:12 PM
this is some great info...... would changing the valves and springs be too expensive? are the parts or the labor what's expensive ? if it is too much (I am saving for pipes)... maybe at least the tech can set up what I have to make it the best possible... I live in nashville.

I believe springs and valves are about $300 plus oil. Labor will vary.

I don't know of anyone in that area.
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