I asked this question after the Diner Run meet back in August - and it's only gotten more desolate here.
What happened?
I have a few theories ( ;D 8)), but I thought I'd just ask the open-ended question today...
Anyone?
I was just going to ask a similar question Tommy. I was going to bump your post from a month ago.
I should have my bike back from getting a new gas tank and serviced any day now, so I`ll be looking to ride very shortly.
Quote from: mookieo2 on October 01, 2008, 08:25:35 AM
I was just going to ask a similar question Tommy. I was going to bump your post from a month ago.
I should have my bike back from getting a new gas tank and serviced any day now, so I`ll be looking to ride very shortly.
Let me know when your ready mook, i still got some tread i need to burn off my tires. Just not this Sunday promised to take the girl pumpkin picking [roll]
I've been busy at work & on the other forums (SVR & WERA) helping explain the mess we're in.
Here's a good remix of an oldie. [thumbsup]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfvIstgOugc
I try not post up so much anymore cause I feel like I along with the rest of the US's dominate this place, makes me think that this isn't appreciated. Whether this is the case or not, I don't know but I've been busy lately researching snow mobile and dirt bikes rentals for us to do during the winter time when it's too crappy out to ride (although it's gotta be VERY crappy out for me not to ride). Oh, and we'll be go carting a lot this winter too.
what mess?
Quote from: goldenchild on October 01, 2008, 09:22:06 AM
I try not post up so much anymore cause I feel like I along with the rest of the US's dominate this place, makes me think that this isn't appreciated. Whether this is the case or not, I don't know but I've been busy lately researching snow mobile and dirt bikes rentals for us to do during the winter time when it's too crappy out to ride (although it's gotta be VERY crappy out for me not to ride). Oh, and we'll be go carting a lot this winter too.
just picked up a snowbile. this winter is gonna be interesting.....backcountry whooo
Quote from: goldenchild on October 01, 2008, 09:22:06 AM
I try not post up so much anymore cause I feel like I along with the rest of the US's dominate this place, makes me think that this isn't appreciated.
i dont mind
Quote from: Beattie_Yoo on October 01, 2008, 09:23:42 AM
just picked up a snowbile. this winter is gonna be interesting.....backcountry whooo
Nice! I always wanted to try it. Where are you going to ride it. I guess you`ll have to trailer it upstate. Maybe we`ll get some snow this year.
I`m finally getting my boat ready. I know summer is over but who cares, fishing season is under way and I`m on the hunt for that cow bass.
Going to Orient Point Sat to get some Jumbo porgy`s, hit the start of Blackfish season, and try to grab a nice bass.
Three people in my office have been out for almost 2 weeks and returning in a week or so. I have to pick up the slack for two of them. So I've been really busy with work, also figuring what's best for me to do now considering the way the market is. So I've been reading a lot in the evenings. I've also been helping people with travel arrangements for my friends wedding next year.
I have been checking around here, or at least trying to once a day. But have not had too much time to post up. I gotta start posting the news again.
Hope there's enough snow out there for you snowmobilers. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Cru Jones on October 01, 2008, 09:32:43 AM
the bailout mess
So have you guys come up with a solution to the mess or strategy of what you will do?
Quote from: Pakhan on October 01, 2008, 11:33:35 AM
So have you guys come up with a solution to the mess or strategy of what you will do?
It doesn't matter what I would do as they're going to pass the bill tomorrow regardless.
Quote from: Pakhan on October 01, 2008, 11:33:35 AM
So have you guys come up with a solution to the mess or strategy of what you will do?
I'm going to quit my job and start producing tobacco infused vodlka to counter the smoking ban...
I just don't post anymore.
Damn, there I go contradicting myself again.
Quote from: Cru Jones on October 01, 2008, 12:34:52 PM
It doesn't matter what I would do as they're going to pass the bill tomorrow regardless.
and if they don't.....?
Quote from: mookieo2 on October 01, 2008, 09:40:01 AM
I`m finally getting my boat ready. I know summer is over but who cares, fishing season is under way and I`m on the hunt for that cow bass.
Going to Orient Point Sat to get some Jumbo porgy`s, hit the start of Blackfish season, and try to grab a nice bass.
I am Waiting on a call when the bass hit Montauk to go fishing myself.
Can't wait.
Oh BTW if you think that was bad go check out the old board.
That place is like a ghost town.
Quote from: GotDuc on October 01, 2008, 01:58:07 PM
Oh BTW if you think that was bad go check out the old board.
That place is like a ghost town.
Full of electronic billboards :P
Quote from: goldenchild on October 01, 2008, 09:22:06 AM
I try not post up so much anymore cause I feel like I along with the rest of the US's dominate this place, makes me think that this isn't appreciated. Whether this is the case or not, I don't know but I've been busy lately researching snow mobile and dirt bikes rentals for us to do during the winter time when it's too crappy out to ride (although it's gotta be VERY crappy out for me not to ride). Oh, and we'll be go carting a lot this winter too.
As far as I am concerned, post all you want. If the US dominates it is due to inactivity from the rest of us.
Much in disregard to my normal character, I haven't had much to say of late.
Guess with the season winding down, and lots of projects going on in the house, I'm not doing much on the bike front.
It's always good to stop in here and see what the U.S.'s are up too though.
Just think of your posts as filling the uncomfortable silense in the room.
Perhaps we DMLer's could make a point of attending the DESMO Christmas party this year, sort of a sustitute for Hiram's during the cold season?
Hope you all get out and use these last days of nice weather to get in those quality rides.
jimi
Quote from: howie on October 02, 2008, 02:09:29 AMAs far as I am concerned, post all you want. If the US dominates it is due to inactivity from the rest of us.
I don't necessarily agree with that, I've certainly been frustrated with the amount of exclusive conversation/events that get posted here. Worst of it is the "check your PMs" posts that just piss me off. That's part of the reason I don't really post here anymore because I don't feel like it's NYMMC, I feel like it's the US board. I'm probably in the minority however and I'm known to be a sandy mothermake the beast with two backser so I doubt other people take it personally and I know it's not intended that way but I certainly think it's been way too much in the past. Thing is, of the US people I know, I like them, they're good guys. I enjoy reading the ride reports I just find it pretty rude that all the announcements and a lot of the discussion becomes exclusionary for other members because we don't know the inside references, we're probably not going to be able to join the ride (numbers or being an unknown) and we can't really involve ourselves in the conversation because it feels awkward. I personally think that the US traffic has had a chilling effect on the conversation but it's a chicken & egg argument really and I'm clearly not an objective observer so I could just be speaking shit. It started on TOB & I was posting on TNB until it started here but I just didn't want to deal with it.
Anyway, as I said, I like all the guys and wish I could ride with them (might be nice) but while my bike is now 100%, conveniently the year is winding down and I'm probably going to be out of town for the next month or so for work.
So, in summary, please ignore my opinion because I'm not around, I won't be around and I'm a grumpy mothermake the beast with two backser anyway.
I don't think your a grump-a-saurus [cheeky]
Wow man.. it doesn't need to be like that. I'd be stoked if other people posted up their stories or other random stuff. No one is excluded from US rides... it's more like no one else wants to go. As far as dominating the board goes, it's more like being bored at work - wishing you were out riding with your friends with no offense or exclusion intended.
Quote from: patricks2r on October 03, 2008, 08:28:13 AM
As far as dominating the board goes, it's more like being bored at work - wishing you were out riding with your friends with no offense or exclusion intended.
+1 to being bored at work!
Quote from: patricks2r on October 03, 2008, 08:28:13 AMWow man.. it doesn't need to be like that. I'd be stoked if other people posted up their stories or other random stuff. No one is excluded from US rides... it's more like no one else wants to go. As far as dominating the board goes, it's more like being bored at work - wishing you were out riding with your friends with no offense or exclusion intended.
Like I said, I don't think anyone excludes anyone deliberately on this board. Actually, people *are* excluded from rides. Usually they're a set number which happens to coincide with the number of US people there are. There are good reasons for this which I completely understand but that doesn't make them inclusive, they're by definition exclusive if not anyone can go and non US people only get to go on most of them if one of the US doesn't go. If you disagree, that's fine, I don't think there's much point in arguing about it.
I looked at my earlier post and realized that I spoke for others which I shouldn't have. What I'm saying here is my opinion alone. I don't feel welcome to join US rides. I don't feel like I'm included in US conversations. I don't feel like I'm included when I see posts like "US check your PMs!".
I want to say this very clearly however: I'm not saying you should stop. If it's just me that has a problem with this then I'm the odd one out. I'm just expressing my opinion on something that's been bothering me for months, if not longer.
I'll go back to not posting again now, venting is good for the soul. :-X
Wow Evil, I wished you would've said something earlier to any one of "US" as I/we certainly didn't mean to put you or anybody else off of any of the forums. The irony of it all is that whenever I post up for a group ride, the ONLY people that want to come are the other US's and a tiny handful of other NYMMC folks - 4 or 5 at the very most. Why? I have no idea... Maybe folks feel the same as you and don't like us, maybe they think our rides are balls out testosterone crash fests, or maybe they're just shy. I don't know.
From what I can tell based on the activity on the board, we are the ones that ride the most. As such, we have the most stories to tell and share and also have more of the "inside jokes" since we were all there on the rides to experience them. If more NYMMC'ers came out with us on a regular basis, then the less "inside" our postings will seem. My ideal number of rider's in a group would be 4, but that never happens anymore because US or not, the rides fill up fast and I end up pulling 10-13 people around all day. And while there are 7 or 8 of "US", it's rare for all of us to be out at any one single time, in fact, I don't think it's ever happened.
Quote from: EvilSteve on October 03, 2008, 09:10:13 AM
I don't feel welcome to join US rides.
Steve - I can see your points, but I think that GC covered most of them in his response above. I'd like to hear your reasoning for the above quote b/c I feel that in respect to other forums, we're pretty inclusive about our rides. We almost always post up & we never exclude even based on skill level (where a lot of ride post ups do). If you can't ride all Sunday (most folks can't) then a US ride is not for you. Does that mean you're excluded? No, that means
you have conditions that prevent it from being feasible. That's not a US exclusionary tactic. Also, you of all people should know you're more than welcome to any of our rides no matter how full they are.
Quote from: goldenchild on October 03, 2008, 09:25:30 AM
Wow Evil, I wished you would've said something earlier to any one of "US" as I/we certainly didn't mean to put you or anybody else off of any of the forums. The irony of it all is that whenever I post up for a group ride, the ONLY people that want to come are the other US's and a tiny handful of other NYMMC folks - 4 or 5 at the very most. Why? I have no idea... Maybe folks feel the same as you and don't like us, maybe they think our rides are balls out testosterone crash fests, or maybe they're just shy. I don't know.
Everyone has different reasons for missing rides, i wouldn't say most of us see it as crash fests, i know i don't. Personally when i can't make it its because a) money is tight at the time and i cant afford to ride all day, or b) i have prior obligations and that's about it. I think that long all day rides just aren't meant for everybody and it can be intimidating. I'll admit my first US ride i was extremely nervous riding as long as i did. But every time i look at that i think holy shit 700miles and 22hours of riding? DAMN! Of course when you hit those twisties your mind escapes everything and all your focused on is the next corner not how long you have been riding or how much longer you are going to ride. Thats just for the slab home [roll]
GC, I specifically said I like all you guys (that I've met), it's not a personal problem with any of you.
I wanted to make the point (after you said something about it) that part of the reason I didn't post was because of this. I'm not saying I'm representative of other people on this board at all.
My reasoning (not saying I disagree with these points in and of themselves):
Limited number of people on the ride (usually you guys say 6 I think)
Defaults to whichever US people can make it
Free spots go to first in best dressed
Rides are very long
Initially you guys stipulated full leather
Rides were to places where many monster riders wouldn't make it between gas stations
Rides are all day
etc.
My skill level is such that your pace & distance aren't a problem, riding all day isn't an issue for me, even at the pace you guys run.
My personal experience has been that, I either have to make it to the initial meet point or I don't get to join you guys because you don't know where you'll be. So, that means that I need to be somewhere in BK at 6:30-8:30am to go on a ride that'll get me home some time in the early morning. The most frustrating experience for me has been that, on the occasion (this year) when I had a free day, my bike was good to go and I was willing to ride 2 hours to just get to the meet point, the route was organized after I'd said I was interested such that there's no way in hell I could come on the ride. It was going to be 4 hours on the slab to just meet up. I've ridden with you guys once, earlier on in the piece. It was a fun ride but, for whatever reason, even when you're riding by my house and even when I'm willing to be somewhere to meet up we still can't get it together so I gave up. Like I said, I don't think my experience is representative but that doesn't make it an invalid POV.
The fact is, I don't really have anyone to ride with anymore, most of my riding friends have stopped riding or, for whatever reason, haven't been able to ride. For me, it's been really difficult to spend a lot of time on the bike thanks to various circumstances including getting it fixed up (most of that was waiting for parts) and honestly, riding by yourself for 4 hours is fun but the joy of sharing a great ride with friends is something I really miss. So, I went skydiving instead, mainly because I didn't have the choice. Fact is, I normally put 10-12k on a bike in a year, that's just weekend riding. This year I've done 3k.
Basically, I was so frustrated by the fact that we can't get a ride together I stopped bothering. That wasn't what made me have a problem with the US traffic on the board though, that just made it worse and hence why I don't really post.
I feel I need to say this again, you guys are all good guys and that's part of the reason it bums me out.
Evil, I'm not taking any of this personally and as far as I know, neither is anyone else so you should have no fears of that. That being said, a little background on me...
When I have a passion, whether it's spending hours upon hours listening to the same song just so I know exactly how to juggle it's beat, it's timing or change it's tempo, or basically destroying my body time and time again trying to learn how to smith grind on both sides of the bike, or staying awake for days at a time contemplating just what shade of orange will look good in that painting or drawing...
Basically, I'm obsessed. Especially if it involves a passion of mine. Riding motorcycles is my newest latest passion and part of my obsession is wanting to share it with everyone I know and sharing it people I only "know" over the internet. If you ever get to meet her, ask my lady how sick she is of hearing about motorcycles, riding, and my riding friends.
I used to post up on the forums a lot because I was so excited by it all and I wanted to share it with all of the NYMMC. Since then, I've curbed in my post count because I started to think that maybe, just maybe, you guys are sick of me and simply weren't as enthusiastic about riding as I was so I've been keeping it to myself - mostly at the expense of my coworkers who now have to hear it.
I see your points and understand them. If there was any ill will on my part towards you or if I've made you feel excluded, for that I apologize, that was not my intention, I was simply as I stated above - obsessed.
The threads that requested all the US's to check their pm's... I agree, that can be and is annoying to those not included but there were good reason for those 2 occasions. For one, one of us crashed and when I learned about, I wanted to make sure all the rest of the US's learned about it and sent their well wishes to that person without involving the forum because I wasn't sure if that person cared if it was public knowledge or not. The easiest and fastest way for me to inform the other US's was via the NYMMC forum. We all check it everyday, multiple times throughout the day unlike our email or our blog.
The 2nd occasion happened because there was some internal strife happening within the US's and again, the easiest and fastest way to inform all the US's was through the NYMMC. This has all since been resolved and it's all love.
To seek to exclude anyone from the NYMMC from our rides, outtings, etc is a bit of a silly notion - and I'm not calling anyone silly. The reason is because we all met right here in the NYMMC, and on the group rides we do and we all share the same passion. We have all since formed great friendships on and off the bike and we have the NYMMC to thank for that. The Suspects and the entire DMF share the same passion - whether it's going out for a 700 mile ride or going nowhere but Starbucks... Whether it's buying performance mods for your bike to gain 2hp or buying rags and wax in an effort to keep your garage queen looking like she does... it's all the same, it's a passion.
The rides... While it's true that the length of the rides (time and mileage) certainly isn't for everyone, as most of you should know by now, in order to get to anything remotely close to a "good" road, you need to travel far out of the city. As such, if we're going 150 - 200 miles into PA, you're damn right we're NOT slabbing there so the route turns into an all day affair. IMO, it's the price one has to pay to get to a decent road.
While the bikes certainly are thirsty, making us stop every 100 miles, these are pretty much only times we stop. No sit down lunches, no brunches, nothing. Some folks may not appreciate all the 100 mile pit stops but there's nothing to be done about that unless we all buy beemers. In an effort to make the rides more appealing to a broader range of people, I've been shortening the routes and a lotting time out to eat if that's what folks want to do but even with these measures taken, most folks still don't want to come out.
During the season's first NYMMC get together (brunch in PJ), several people came up to me whom I've never met and expressed their interest in coming out for a ride, since then, I haven't been contacted.
Evil, you of all people in the NYMMC are the one that I'd love to ride with the most (you too klink). Whether you realize it or not, you've been a HUGE influence on the way I ride and most especially the way I lead a group and I appreciate all that you've inadvertently shown me / taught me. However, as you already know, it's logistically difficult for us to make riding together a regular possibility. At the beginning of the week I start to think about where to ride. This season we've been riding mostly to points west, avoiding the 'Skills because frankly I/we have ridden there so many times, all of it, that PA presents a nice change of pace - pun not intended. Between work, work, relationships, and friendships to maintain, I don't get around to actually plotting a route for the Sunday ride until very late in the week, usually it ends up being late Saturday night. This being the case, I won't know until very late that night where we'll be much less when we'll be. I suppose I can always plan ahead and plot out the route early in the week but unfortunately my schedule rarely allows for that. The only thing I can think of would be for you to have your bike here in the city on weekends so that it's a lot easier for you to meet up... is that an option? I'm hoping it is cause I really do enjoy riding AND hanging with you.
As for the rest of the NYMMC, if you're reading this... the US rides ARE NOT exclusionary. Everyone is welcome. All skills levels are welcome, shit, even within the Usual Suspects there are wide ranging skill levels so don't let that be an excuse. Male, female, black, white, yellow, brown, red, EVERYONE. That's one of the beautys I've found in motorcycling - you'll meet and make friends with people from all walks if life from all over the world. The only people that I won't tolerate are inconsiderate assholes, cry babies, and dangerous riders. While it's very true that some of you may not have the time or energy to ride all day, you're more than welcome to come out for as long as you can then break off early.
I used to have a limit on the amount of riders that come out (ideally 5 max), but this season I've been regularly towing around groups of up to 13 people. As long as I have a willing and able sweep rider, all will be well. I also used to have an ATGATT rule but that's out the window too. Ultimately that's up to you and your conscience. The constant posting by me and the rest of the US's are not meant to exclude anyone. This is just us and our enthusiasm about all things riding shining through. If this behavior isn't appreciated or welcomed, I for one will quickly and quietly find another place to vent. If you folks don't mind/care, then feel free to speak up so I/we can get on with being the asses that we are now known for.
Quote from: goldenchild on October 03, 2008, 12:37:05 PM
This is just us and our enthusiasm about all things riding shining through. If this behavior isn't appreciated or welcomed, I for one will quickly and quietly find another place to vent. If you folks don't mind/care, then feel free to speak up so I/we can get on with being the asses that we are now known for.
If you leave im going to find you kick u in the nuts, frankly my gf is sick and tired of me babbling about riding as well, since nobody else is around to hear it. So if you all leave she is make the beast with two backsed and i don't want to deal with an angry woman. [bacon]
Going back to my original thread starting post...
I had a hunch that "usual suspect" stuff was causing a combination of aspiration and resentment.
Reading through these posts - especially Evil's and GC's exchange - it seems I was right on the money.
Quote from: goldenchild on October 03, 2008, 09:25:30 AM
From what I can tell based on the activity on the board, we are the ones that ride the most. As such, we have the most stories to tell and share
I think there are lots of stories to tell, but not everyone posts them all up.
I like reading the "US" shenanigans and ride reports, and hope they don't stop. but I will be honest though, I don't see the point in posting about "secret" roads. Why bother then if you want to keep it secret? Seems a bit odd to me and feeds the "cliquish" feel the posts can exude. But maybe I'm the only one that feels that way. :-X
Speaking for myself, we don't attend "US" rides because they run too long for me. I prefer to get home before 10pm, especially last year when we had 2 cats at home. Another important reason was a safety concern, it was always posted that you guys don't stop for food, and Terry has diabetes, so we have to stop for food! (AND I LIKE TO EAT! ;D)
I will acknowledge that I am in a very special situation, in that #1 I have a riding buddy year round and we are at our beck and call. ;) I ride with 2001cromo almost every weekend, whether it's trackdays, out in the boonies or just locally (Harriman)
#2, we have close friends (like brothers and sisters) that we can ride with that aren't from NYMMC, but friends from outside the "motorcycle community" that happen to ride motorcycles, that we call on the phone to tell them a meet-up spot for a ride together, not having to post it on a board. (With that said, I have my own board where I post up rides for people that I know outside of NYMMC, that I've met through the years. I don't post rides up here because I feel bad turning people away, and don't like riding with more than about 5 people. A few years ago I posted a ride and had 30 people show up! I vowed never again! Especially after having someone crash out of the ride not 30minutes after the beginning.
And so I give GC all the kudos for posting his rides up!!!! and trying to give people the opportunity to go on a group ride. I know and appreciate how much hard work it is. [thumbsup] When I do a ride, I can spend a week planning a route, programming my GPS, playing with maps and writing/printing up a route sheet for my group members.
and as a public service announcement may I add, for those that may not feel like they are up to snuff for a "US" ride, I used to post up all the DESMO group rides and events, but gave up as no none seemed interested in DESMO. So I will tell people once again: DESMO runs safe and organized group rides with leaders and sweeps. You will get a route sheet for the ride, so you can even go back if you like the route, at a later time. And depending on how many leads/sweeps can volunteer for a group ride, there can be 3-5 groups of 6 riders (including leader and sweeper). Just want to let people know there are alternatives, if they felt intimidated to join a "US" ride.
M - funny that you should pipe in... I thought of you guys as I was typing that line - "we ride the most". I wasn't trying to imply one thing or another, I know you guys put the miles in too, it's just a shamed that you, Terry and I can't get it together more often for a roll. My apologies for any offense...
As far as me and the NYMMC (can't speak for the rest of the US's), I'll be happy to stop posting up threads, group ride requests, and ride/trip reports. I thought we all had the same amount of enthusiasm for riding and for motorcycles but judging by the lack of activity on this board I guess I was wrong. No, I'm not saying that if you don't post up you don't love to ride, that's not what I'm saying at all. And yes Tommy, all is well, I just don't get all the drama all the time. Also, thanks to IG for proving my point... all the US's have each other's contact info, there's no need for me to post up for group rides since we the US's have enough riders to fill up a ride already. So why am I still posting up for rides? Cause I'm trying to give more and more people the chance to experience the same thing that I do while on a bike. Given this, I don't see how I/we can be accused to being exclusionary.
So forgive me for taking up all the room in this board with my enthusiasm. If any of you felt "left out", "excluded", or on the outside of an "inside joke", my apologies, that wasn't my intention, I was just trying to share the love. G'bye.*
*Oh the humanity [puke]
please don't make me have to go to Brooklyn and kick yer arse!!!!!
please don't go don't goooooooooooooo.... don't go away....
please don't go don't gooooooooo
I;m beggin you to stay...
see now you making me sing... and that's a bad thing. :-*
GC:
Me personally I like to see you and the US's posting rides. Eventually my schedule will work and I will be on one.
Until then I like reading the stories and looking at the pictures of pink seats and babling brooks. [thumbsup]
Don't change a thing.
Jim
Quote from: goldenchild on October 03, 2008, 04:46:46 PM
So forgive me for taking up all the room in this board with my enthusiasm. If any of you felt "left out", "excluded", or on the outside of an "inside joke", my apologies, that wasn't my intention, I was just trying to share the love. G'bye.*
*Oh the humanity [puke]
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Keep posting!
I gues I will add to it. I don`t get to ride much and I haven`t any friends who have bikes nor any desire to own one. If it wasn`t for the DMF and meeting people like the U.S. guys, Industrial girl, Grlantern, I would be riding by myself and probably have gotten rid of my bike after my first year. I have learned so much from these guys the few times I`ve ridden w/ them. Everyone is extremely helpful, and responsible. I have no one to share my new passion w/ except them and the DMF. Between a bunch of hobby`s, working a city job at night, owning a business, working on my house, family, and never sleeping, I look forward to the few times that I can get on a good ride w/ anybody. I really appreciate the hard work that it takes to put a ride together, lead a group, and take all the responsibility associated w/it. When I go on a ride being on a Sunday, I ride my bike to work that night, leave in the morning for the meetup, go home to sleep for an hour and/or go right back to work. I am shot for a day or two after. It is worth it to get on some good roads w/ great people.
I can agree on the secret stuff, as sometimes feeling a slight jealousy about it but, I take what I can get and make the most out of it. If the U.S. leaves the NYMMC board it will end up looking like the DML. You guys keep doing what you do.
I can also see just wanting to go out w/ people you know that are of similar skill levels, and not have any worries about the new guy. I am a decent snowboarder and I will take someone new from time to time. Most of the time I just grab a friend or two and go. It`s something I don`t get to do much and if I`m going to spend $75 on a lift ticket and 8 hrs in the car I want to get the most out of it. So by this I can relate to not posting rides all the time, but I love to hear about them and all the antics that went along w/ them.
Quote from: GotDuc on October 03, 2008, 06:28:21 PM
GC:
Me personally I like to see you and the US's posting rides. Eventually my schedule will work and I will be on one.
Until then I like reading the stories and looking at the pictures of pink seats and babling brooks. [thumbsup]
Don't change a thing.
Jim
totally agree Jim that`s it short and sweet.
Quote from: EvilSteve on October 01, 2008, 01:04:29 PM
I just don't post anymore.
Damn, there I go contradicting myself again.
steve you sold the gixxer you had?
Eric, honestly you're being a drama queen now (I think I am too), I'm not suggesting for a second that you or anyone else stop posting. What I'm saying is that the way some of it gets posted isn't *IMO* very inclusive. Specifically, the PM posts should be emails because when you pm people they're getting an email anyway, if not, just email them directly.
Your enthusiasm is a credit to you and I think your attitude has changed over time and the instances where I feel excluded are few and far between these days which is great.
You guys not posting here would be a great loss to this board and community so please, don't stop. Just try to be a little more aware that the way some of what you say comes across is a little discouraging for people. Even people (like me) who have the skill and riding habits to keep up and better yet enjoy one if your rides can be put off at times.
Yes, I know most of the reason I can't get to these rides is down to me. I also know that there are roads in the Catskills that you guys don't know. If I was going to be around next weekend (work trip OS) I'd probably be up for a ride but circumstances right now aren't good for riding or skydiving for that matter.
In any case let's take this chat off line and stop boring the shit out of everyone huh? ;)
No more gixxer, I've (kind of) had an S4Rs all year.
Quote from: EvilSteve on October 03, 2008, 11:29:46 PM
Eric, honestly you're being a drama queen now (I think I am too)
[laugh] [clap]
In any case Dan, you know I love you. I mean, whom else's house would we stop to pee on?* Moving forward, you have my info, if we want to ride together we can make it happen, we just need to plan better for it. My thanks for speaking up about "US", I'll try to keep the "US centric" threads down to a minimum but apart from Tommy and Jake, the rest of the US's only frequent the NYMMC, myself included. Oh and Mook, it's not about who's the fast/slow guy/gal, it's about who's having fun cause that's all that matters on our rides.
*although this is an "inside joke", I'm not seeking to exclude anyone from the fun :P
Quotegoldenchild wrote: Evil, you of all people in the NYMMC are the one that I'd love to ride with the most (you too klink).
Back at you, bro. :-*
GC:
Big problem with ya right now..................... :(
Please fix your tater tots! [laugh] all I see is an "X"
Quote from: GotDuc on October 04, 2008, 01:20:27 PM
Please fix your tater tots!
(http://www.foodite.com/photos/posts/crifdogs_tatertots.jpg)
Damn, I just made myself hungry... [bang]
you ever have them on the grill?
Speaking as a long time lurker (& occasional poster) - I personally enjoy the US positngs.
As some have previously stated - I would love to do a US ride - I have the passion but not the time - between job & family, a 15 hr-600 mile ride takes a lot more "schedule manipulation" to finagle than a few hours on a shorter ride.
I don't care that the US PM each other & have some inside jokes - I am jealous that I can't spend more time in the pursuit of my passion for riding so I will live vicariously through them.
Keep up the posts.
John (Painkiller)
Although I have never ridden with the US group, and my only contact with you guys has been over dogs and beers at Hiram’s I personally think that it would be a shame to loose your input here.
I can see from the previous years posts that you guys have organized into a group of guys who all share the passion we all feel for Ducati, and I think that getting people together, along with sharing stories, and routes, etc. is the main reason a board or forum like this exists in the first place. Your rides have always been posted as open to anyone who responds, and if for some reason people can’t join in, it’s in no way your groups fault. I applaud you GC for taking the time to do all the work you do to set up and run your rides. I personally know what a big undertaking, and responsibility is it to do group rides, and it’s nice to see someone giving of their own time and effort to get people together.
I really don’t object to the “inside†posts, although I would like to see more people posting, for whatever reasons here. Unfortunately we all have obligations and responsibilities that infringe on our riding time, and I would venture that its part of the reason we don’t all ride as much, and then consequently post up, as often as you guys do.
I personally would miss the insult posts, and the cool posts that chronicle your mega mile rides, and ones like the posts by you and the group about your road trip which was one of the more entertaining and fun posts put up here in quite a while. Stick around guys, who else can we envy on Monday mornings if you leave…
jimi
i wish my neck and backside could last all day. how do you do it?
Quote from: opinion914 on October 07, 2008, 05:48:05 AM
i wish my neck and backside could last all day. how do you do it?
Folks always complain about the "sportbike position" - long low stretch to the bars, high pegs, etc... magazine testers included... while they may not be the most comfortable things to ride all day, it's really not that bad once you get used to it. I won't lie, my neck did bother me after one ride in particular but that ride went on and on (kinda like this reply) for 20 hours, yep, 20 hours. [bang]
Funny thing is, whenever I sit on a Monster now, I realize how truly comfortable they are - high bars, low pegs... plus you guys have those frame sliders that can double as highway pegs... bastids.
Quote from: goldenchild on October 07, 2008, 06:51:11 AM
plus you guys have those frame sliders that can double as highway pegs... bastids.
Yea..if your a hobbit.
Quote from: He Man on October 07, 2008, 09:08:34 AM
Yea..if your a hobbit.
At least hobbits don't crash [cheeky] [laugh]