:-\
Season in doubt (http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/motorsport/stoner-considers-quitting-season/2009/02/17/1234632809582.html)
Thoughts?
I'm not surprised. Doctors who talk about his injury and who know anything about it were/are pretty skeptical about the success of that surgery. Yes, it's amazing that he was that fast at Sepang, but if it's still FUBARed, how is he gonna get through an entire race to say nothing about an entire season?
'course, this is gonna cue the discussion about how he's a giant pussy. [roll]
didn't do a race simulation at sepang.. can't go race distance currently. if the situation is the same by Qatar, no bueno.
there is another big eared dude out there who apparently needs a ride... [roll] [cheeky]
bummer. :(
This sucks for Casey. :'(
Imagine Hayden and Hopper on the same team??
Shit, I thought that I read on MotoGp.com that he could now start strength training. I assumed that his wrist was only sore/tender because of the lack of training.
Quote from: Spidey on February 17, 2009, 12:47:07 PM
I'm not surprised. Doctors who talk about his injury and who know anything about it were/are pretty skeptical about the success of that surgery. Yes, it's amazing that he was that fast at Sepang, but if it's still FUBARed, how is he gonna get through an entire race to say nothing about an entire season?
'course, this is gonna cue the discussion about how he's a giant pussy. [roll]
I'm actually very surprised that we haven't heard it already.
^^^^^ I think that is a European thing, they only want European riders winning Moto GP
Quote from: SP3 on February 17, 2009, 01:27:02 PM
I'm actually very surprised that we haven't heard it already.
90% of the accusations and whatnot here in the past came from the folks defending him
Quote from: SP3 on February 17, 2009, 01:27:02 PM
I'm actually very surprised that we haven't heard it already.
That's cuz y'all are giant pussies who are too skeered to call him a giant pussy.
Really, the only point of this post if that I wanted to say pussy a bunch. And while we on the subject, WTF is wrong with y'all that no one has made a crack about the title?
Quote from: Spidey on February 17, 2009, 01:39:57 PM
That's cuz y'all are giant pussies who are too skeered to call him a giant pussy.
Really, the only point of this post if that I wanted to say pussy a bunch. And while we on the subject, WTF is wrong with y'all that no one has made a crack about the title?
;D
My money says that Stoner rides anyway, posting fast times and if he happens to come in second or crash, he'll have an out. :P
maybe he's taking rossi's laguna sandbagging to the extreme =)
Quote from: Spidey on February 17, 2009, 01:39:57 PMAnd while we on the subject, WTF is wrong with y'all that no one has made a crack about the title?
Alright - switch hands.
Quote from: Spidey on February 17, 2009, 01:39:57 PM
That's cuz y'all are giant pussies who are too skeered to call him a giant pussy.
Really, the only point of this post if that I wanted to say pussy a bunch. And while we on the subject, WTF is wrong with y'all that no one has made a crack about the title?
first thing that came to mind when I saw title but thought that would have been the first thing BP or MR.INC would post up. [laugh]
Casey hasn't said boo about his wrist that I've seen until now. Which is cool, shows he's maturing. [thumbsup]
Rossi on the other hand......... (still my fave, but wouldn't mind seeing casey, jorge or nicky win it this year)
Quote from: supakpow2 on February 17, 2009, 02:38:23 PM
Casey hasn't said boo about his wrist that I've seen until now. Which is cool, shows he's maturing. [thumbsup]
he's been [legitimately] talking/complaining about it since 2006 at least
Quote from: gm2 on February 17, 2009, 02:57:48 PM
he's been [legitimately] talking/complaining about it since 2006 at least
let me reword that... I haven't heard him use this as an excuse for not performing as well when he isn't in top form. ;)
especially after the whole Laguna episode.
Isn't this the same injury that contributed to Schwantz' (words ending in "s" are meant to get an apostrophe thus: James'. Words ending in z? Swantz's just seems weird) exit from GP racing?
Whatever you think about Stoner, it would be a great loss to see him out of the series.
Quote from: EvilSteve on February 17, 2009, 04:57:18 PM
Isn't this the same injury that contributed to Schwantz' (words ending in "s" are meant to get an apostrophe thus: James'. Words ending in z? Swantz's just seems weird) exit from GP racing?
schwantz didn't exactly retire because of injury, he, in a sense, retired because of rainey.
edit: http://www.superbikeplanet.com/f007.htm
I'm sure Stoner's aware of this being a potentially career ending injury.
If it doesn't heal, he's fvcked.
I've heard that the small hand bones don't heal well due to poor blood flow.
Perhaps someone more physio than I may comment.
Spencer had a carpal tunnel issue toward the end of his career.
our buddy JC severed a tendon in his thumb in that Oct lowside. went to an uber-sports doc that does a lot of moto folks (no, not Ting) and he advised against the surgery the first doc suggested, partially b/c of this same bones don't heal properly thing. now he's headed to a bone fusing op.
How does it go from severed tendon to bone fusing?
I've missed it up to this point, may take me a little while to catch up ???
I am Oil Can Boyd, and I do not approve this message.
I hope Opie rides.
Quote from: derby on February 17, 2009, 06:16:32 PMschwantz didn't exactly retire because of injury, he, in a sense, retired because of rainey.
edit: http://www.superbikeplanet.com/f007.htm
[laugh]
That's the article I found when I googled "schwantz wrist", I was looking for some small confirmation of something a commentator was saying last season.
Rossi on Stoner's wrist:
“Stoner is already very fast. I think that to make this lap time he doesn't have a lot of pain, because if you have a lot of pain and you make this lap time then without pain he could maybe be one and a half seconds faster!†said the Italian. “I don't think that is the reality,â€
On Pedrobot:
“I think Dani is fast but Stoner is more strong,†Rossi explained. “Dani has to demonstrate… He knows the way to ride the bike, he is competitive, he is good, but he wins less than us. So he needs to improve from this point of view.
Quote from: Jester on February 17, 2009, 10:16:19 PM
Rossi On Pedrobot:
“I think Dani is fast but Stoner is more strong,†Rossi explained. “Dani has to demonstrate… He knows the way to ride the bike, he is competitive, he is good, but he wins less than us. So he needs to improve from this point of view.
Awesome [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Can you Say "Biznitch Slap"
Where is the linky to Rossi's statements? If can hear his voice as I read those quotes.....definitely sounds like something Rossi would say. He is right about Dani....doesn't have the same will to win.
Stoner will race this year...no doubt!
Quote from: BastrdHK on February 18, 2009, 11:41:04 AM
Stoner will race this year...no doubt!
or maybe he'll never race again
So in the off chance that Stoner sits out the season for another surgery or just rehab time.... Rossi should take what, probably 12-13 wins I'd imagine?
I still think Stoner is just playing the poker game. I'd be surprised if he really has to sit.
if it's a real problem, he already had surgery and rehab. which could mean end of career.
i do hope he's sandbagging, just for the drama of it.
Quote from: gm2 on February 18, 2009, 02:55:11 PM
if it's a real problem, he already had surgery and rehab. which could mean end of career.
i do hope he's sandbagging, just for the drama of it.
Or re-op. Poor blood supply there, though, so can easily get necrosis (death/atrophy) of some of those wrist bones. In that case, he'd probably need a fusion, and would permanently lose a lot of the range of motion.
I sure as hell hope he's riding this year :-\
Man, this sucks. I have no idea what to do but to sit and wait to see how it pans out. And, of course, in the meanwhile post up speculation on the interwebz.
Rossi is amazing, but without someone to challenge him,
its kinda boreing.
Quote from: OT_Ducati on February 19, 2009, 05:36:35 AM
Rossi is amazing, but without someone to challenge him,
its kinda boreing.
+1
I'd expect a very boring season if Stoner sits. Give Dani his usual Spanish runaway and maybe Germany, and chalk up the rest to Rossi with a few hiccups to the other guys here and there.
Quote from: OT_Ducati on February 19, 2009, 05:36:35 AM
Rossi is amazing, but without someone to challenge him,
its kinda boreing.
+2
After Laguna I really got into watching Stoner more. He is balls to the wall. It's always an exciting race. And I like a few of the new guys as well.