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Title: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: mattyvas on September 06, 2009, 02:53:56 AM
Thought this might warrant it's own thread.
I'll try to get some further details on it to post up for us all but this is what we have so far from the Intro thread thanks to
888906.


Desmo Clinic is a new workshop that opened last week in Nancarrow Ave, Meadowbank.  It is owned and run by a husband and wife team, husband on the tools and the wife doing the admin.  Award winning Ducati Technician offering very personal service to the customer at a tarrif below what the bigger workshops charge (no corperate overheads equals a lower cost structure, passed onto the customer)
Italspares import directly from Italy and have a cooperation agreement to supply Desmo Clinic with spares to support the servicing of bevel and belt drive Ducatis.

Located 10 mins walk from the station it makes a very cost effective alternative for Ducati servicing.

Have a look for yourself
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: dragonworld. on September 06, 2009, 03:12:56 AM
You yankees are definitely spoiled for choice up there??  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: Two dogs on September 06, 2009, 04:02:28 PM
Matty any details yet ?
googled and couldn't find a phone number , I would like to get a quote on a 12K service.
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: mattyvas on September 06, 2009, 04:20:57 PM
Desmo Clinic
U3/ 25-29 Nancarrow Ave
Ryde NSW 2112
(02) 9808 4277

Also sent it to your phone Dez.
Let us know what they quote for your service.
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: Two dogs on September 06, 2009, 04:46:21 PM
Thanks for the info. Matty
quote for my 12k was $200 less than Northside , had a chat with Mike the spanner man, he gave me an outline of his qualifications and 20 year history with Ducati sounds like the goods  and a family run business  [thumbsup]
also gave me some sound advice about an issue I have with my bike (warranty related)
I will very likely be giving them a crack at my bike .
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: mattyvas on September 06, 2009, 04:51:24 PM
That's cool then. 
Let us know what his work is like.
And if you like tell him about the forum and he can introduce himself to all of us.
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: signora monster on September 06, 2009, 05:15:07 PM
Hi Dez,
If I am not mistaken, you have a 2008 695? The reason I ask is that you mentioned a warranty issue and I was wondering if it is that strange discolouration on the motor? I have the same bike and was wondering if you also have this problem. If so, what was the verdict on how to fix it?
Thanks and cheers,
Kaz.
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: mattyvas on September 06, 2009, 05:45:33 PM
Kaz,

    the 695's did have some issues with the dis-colouration of the front cylinder.
Fraser were not taking it seriously when it first started happening to the bikes but I think they had
to change there tune when lots of people were complaining about it.
I can't remember exactly what it was that made it happen, something in what the bike was treated with at the factory.

Hit them up and don't take no for answer, just go in knowing that it is there problem and they need to fix it.

cheers
Matty...
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: dragonworld. on September 06, 2009, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: mattyvas on September 06, 2009, 05:45:33 PM
Kaz,

    the 695's did have some issues with the dis-colouration of the front cylinder.
Fraser were not taking it seriously when it first started happening to the bikes but I think they had
to change there tune when lots of people were complaining about it.
I can't remember exactly what it was that made it happen, something in what the bike was treated with at the factory.

Hit them up and don't take no for answer, just go in knowing that it is there problem and they need to fix it.

cheers
Matty...



And you might find out why the importer is called N.F.I.??  no fuggin idea. [roll]
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: Two dogs on September 06, 2009, 10:38:57 PM
Quote from: signora monster on September 06, 2009, 05:15:07 PM
Hi Dez,
If I am not mistaken, you have a 2008 695? The reason I ask is that you mentioned a warranty issue and I was wondering if it is that strange discolouration on the motor? I have the same bike and was wondering if you also have this problem. If so, what was the verdict on how to fix it?
Thanks and cheers,
Kaz.
Hi Kaz nah no problem like that so far on mine .
I have read on the main board quite a few had warranty repairs for that problem.
Mine is an unidentified engine noise, really baffling [bang] the head Mech. at Northside took her for a blat and could hear it but not identify what it is.
There solution so far was" its under warranty just wait until it breaks"   WTF
They wont strip the engine down to look for said noise.
I said what happens if it is a major malfunction eg.engine seizure mid corner =me high siding= broken bike and body  "NOT HAPPY JAN"
I am starting to think it is a bearing noise it must be loud as I can hear it with a full face helmet and Termi's with no baffles .
Hope your bike is still under warranty and you get some satisfaction if it is push hard for repair quote the Nth American recalls.
Dez
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: Justo on September 06, 2009, 11:45:16 PM
Quote from: dezmonster on September 06, 2009, 04:46:21 PM
quote for my 12k was $200 less than Northside

Quote from: dezmonster on September 06, 2009, 10:38:57 PM
There solution so far was" its under warranty just wait until it breaks"   WTF

Hmmm. Seems to be a picture being painted here.
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: signora monster on September 08, 2009, 01:15:23 AM
Thanks for all your advice Matty, it is really appreciated.
Dez, I am sorry to hear that you have an unresolved issue with yours. I hope you can sort it out. I guess the trick is to be persistent and not to take their bizarre advice of letting it self destruct. Doesn't sound like a very safe way to get to the root of the problem?! The mind boggles. ???
Kaz
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: 888906 on September 20, 2009, 12:41:50 AM
Good to catch up with you today Matty at the Desmo Clinic stand at the DOCNSW concours.

As I mentioned, we are keen to service and supply parts to the Monster owner/riders associated with the forum.  Pls when you call with an enquiry or booking, let me know you are a member of the forum and this will ensure we make the extra effort to meet your needs.

Our website is still under construction and needs a bit of a tidy up, but the essential information is there.

www.desmoclinic.com.au (//http://)

Cheers and regards
Mike
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: mattyvas on September 20, 2009, 01:42:35 AM
Yeah, it's great to know who is the face behind Desmo Clinic.
The word will spread I'm sure, hopefully we can bring you enough business to expand in the future.

cheers
Matty...
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: bigiain on September 21, 2009, 03:42:56 AM
For those of you who, like me, hadn't worked it out yet...

Mike is Mike the ex Flywheels spanner twirler.

I was talking to Ron this morning and he said he was at the same time disappointed that Mike had left, and proud as hell of him for doing this (it's pretty much exactly what Ron did back when he finished his apprenticeship at Gowies).

Good luck with your new business mate!

big
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: mattyvas on September 21, 2009, 03:45:36 AM
Further to that Mike was also previously spinning the spanners at Gowie's
Most likely while Ron was doing his junior monkey work.
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: 888906 on September 23, 2009, 01:25:17 PM
Further to that I was doing service advising /spares and learning the fundamentals of servicing, shimming etc at Scot Walker's in Brookvale.

Its taken a while, but I have my own workshop in the end...oops (in partnership with my wife Dallas)

No Monsters in here yet people...I can't call it a real Ducati workshop??  Help
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: hambo on October 11, 2009, 11:04:46 PM
Just dropped my s2r in for a 12k .....workshop immaculate and mike was a good guy will pick up later in the week :) :)
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: mattyvas on October 11, 2009, 11:39:51 PM
Excellent, I know your bike is in good hands.
Will be over that way tomorrow so might have to drop in to check it out.
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: 888906 on October 12, 2009, 08:10:56 PM
Yep, now its a proper Ducati workshop with a big red Monster up on the bike bench.  Been doing mostly Multistrudel's and rattly 748's of late, its refreshing to have a Monster and a pretty schmik one at that!

Cheers - see you soon
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: mattyvas on October 12, 2009, 09:15:43 PM
24k coming soon Mike.
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: hambo on October 16, 2009, 10:24:48 PM
picked up my bike from mike today ....couldn't be happier did everything necessary plus a few others i didn't pick up....he was happy to spend time explaining things to me re the service and the bike in general   .....end result bike runs great just back from a run up the old hiway ......a very satisfied customer :) :)
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: timjim on November 27, 2009, 11:06:22 PM
Mike at Desmo clinic just did the 12k on my S2R this week. Thanks to you guys on the forum for reinforcing the referral I got from an R1 rider mate of mine. Very happy with the job Mike did - I value the ability to speak directly with the mechanic very highly too. Will definitely be going back there. If you're looking, I'd recommend him too. Just worried about the day coming where we have to book 6 weeks in advance! Oh well, he probably deserves it... 
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: mattyvas on November 28, 2009, 10:14:02 PM
Cool Timjim,

       Come meet us all sometime on a ride.
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: timjim on November 29, 2009, 06:51:50 PM
Cheers Matty - yeah, must do that sometime. Weekends are tough for me - I have my two boys every fortnight...but I'd like that...
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: bigmic on December 19, 2009, 01:04:12 PM
 :) Thanks Mike for the work you did on my S2R..now with the trickest crankcase breather out there...  and thanks to DMF for pointing me the right way..
see you Mike for the 20k
cheers
mic
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: mattyvas on December 19, 2009, 08:46:34 PM
Excellent, so what did you have done to the breather then.
Come out for a ride and give us a look one day.
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: monstermick58 on December 20, 2009, 07:10:41 PM
Quote from: dezmonster on September 06, 2009, 10:38:57 PM
I am starting to think it is a bearing noise it must be loud as I can hear it with a full face helmet and Termi's with no baffles .
Hope your bike is still under warranty and you get some satisfaction if it is push hard for repair quote the Nth American recalls.
Dez



Dez, do you still have the baffles for the Termi's? I'm taking a bit of a punt here, why don't you try putting the baffles back in and see if that makes a difference, then try running the spanners over the bike, things like starter motor, exhaust clamps that sort of thing, see if any of this helps. If you can here the noise whilst stationary use a long screwdriver and use it like a stethoscope, it may get you closer to where the noise is coming from.





                                            Mmick
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: 888906 on February 05, 2010, 03:12:23 PM
Matty, I have the TEXA dianostic equipment, which is different to the other workshops you have recently visited in search of your elusive electrical gremlin.  If you feel the need I will scan the ECU with the TEXA and see if it shows up anything.

These electrical dramas are tough and test your patience as you will be well aware by now...

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: mattyvas on February 06, 2010, 06:01:59 PM
Thanks Mike,

      It's at the the previous owner's shop right now and he's a persistent kinda bloke.
So while he was at his shop today doing a few other things he turned his attention to it.
After messing around poured a bit fuel down the trumpets and it fired up.
So there is now thoughts of water actually getting into the top cylinder, so a compression test might be in order?

Cheers
Matty
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: 888906 on February 06, 2010, 10:16:23 PM
A little hard to follow the diagnostic process.  Do you suspect a leaking head gasket (compression test comment?) or by tipping fuel directly into trumpets, do you suspect injectors not opening correctly??? hmmmm  ???
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: mattyvas on February 06, 2010, 10:36:21 PM
I wasn't there when that was done (pouring fuel), I was thinking some kind of injector problem.
But then I have just been told about hydralock, when a small amount of water is introduced into the chamber and cannot be expelled. That is why the compression test was suggested.

These are just things being suggested to me, so I am referring them on for debate and other ideas.
The information the better I guess. There will be an answer.
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: FIFO on February 06, 2010, 10:51:08 PM

Matty
Petrol engines will cope with a little water.
Diesel fail miserably and can destroy the engine that is from my 4wd knowledge eg water crossings etc.

I think you would have had do drown the engine to do any damage.

But you said it ran previously with another ecu fitted?
Still points to an eleccy fault?

areo start or start you bastard is good to try just spray it in to the in take when cranking.





Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: mattyvas on February 06, 2010, 11:39:45 PM
Thanks Rob,

      It did run on another ECU, but then my ECU ran in Dannog's bike.
Then to confuse you more Frasers Wollongong Mecho Steve got it running on my DP ECU and said it ran perfectly.
After looking at it today there is apparently much black deposit on the header pipe pointing to burnt H2O.
Vince also said he had a look inside the top chamber and saw a black looking valve!

So all in all it is very confusing and is giving off so many different signals, it doesn't know if it's coming or going. 
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: FIFO on February 07, 2010, 12:04:32 AM

Matty

So it is running [thumbsup]
What did the mech find?
you don't have to admit to owner operator error on line ;D

Black soot in the exhaust valves sounds normal, just rich needs a good run.
If it is a head gasket it would possibly be oily black shite.
and blowing smoke :'(

Is it still playing up?

I have a compression tester if you need to borrow it. [thumbsup]




Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: gino on February 07, 2010, 01:10:00 AM
Could of it got through the air filter some how or is that a stupid thing to say ?
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: mattyvas on February 07, 2010, 01:32:21 AM
Since this has begun it has not started in my hands.

It got started in the hands of George @ Flywheels, with another ECU.
First diagnosis was ECU screwed, owner not convinced.
I picked the bike up took my ECU to try in Dannog's, it worked so not an ECU problem.

It started in the hands of the Mecho down at Frasers.
Needed a bit of help though with the throttle and when it fired there was a big back fire and nice black smoke.
Ran for a test ride of about 10 k's, got back to shop tried to start it again got nothing.
Mecho Steve, said maybe starter motor but not sure, could also be bad sensor connections but all were checked I'm told.

Vince has looked at it today and checked every connection, no water, no obvious problem.
he got it started with a douse of fuel down the trumpets but said it didn't sound good, like it was running rough or only one cylinder running smoothly.
That's when eh had a peak with a little camera and saw the valve. Also the rough running which Steve said was not happening with him, it ran smoothly like he always knew it to run.

So I'm back at the beginning.

Sorry Mike to hijack your Desmo Clinic thread, I'll go somewhere else now.
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: Dannog on February 08, 2010, 12:27:45 AM
Matty, I'm remembering my misfiring problem with the M900 was an injector problem that I'm convinced was brought on by washing the bike (stupidly with hi-pressure).

Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: mattyvas on February 08, 2010, 01:10:45 AM
Thanks Dannog,

    After getting it running today, new plugs again but I think maybe the wrong ones.
It is starting again but much throttle persuasion is needed to do so, it runs pretty fine except down low.
Sounds like it is breaking down around 1500-2500 rpm, above that she rode pretty hard in the laneway at the shop.

So yes it feels like it might be a blocked or non operating injector of some sort.
Took the tank off to check fuel filter also, no water all good there.

More things eliminated. 
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: yang258 on February 14, 2010, 12:59:13 PM
Just thought I might mention- Took my bike to Desmo on the weekend to get a few things done. Michael did a great job and and was the only place that would do it for me on a Saturday! Highly recommend!
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: mattyvas on February 14, 2010, 03:18:36 PM
Excellent to know.
With another Mechanic or 2 leaving Flywheels I am sure Mike will find many more of us on his doorstep.
Especially that we can drop a bike off on a Saturday and pick it up the next week.

Nice work Mike  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: FIFO on February 24, 2010, 09:13:06 PM

[thumbsup] For Mike at Desmo Clinic.
Just had the fork seals Changed and tune up. All good [thumbsup]
And very reasonable price. :)

Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: Two dogs on March 08, 2010, 08:57:09 PM
My bike is fresh back from Mike's tooling for a 12k service this arvo
bike is running sweet and saved a $100 on Northside's quote.
Time for [drink] or two [drink] after negotiating two peak hour commutes. [puke] [puke]
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: hambo on March 08, 2010, 09:27:41 PM
must have just missed you i dropped the monster off at about 4.30 for a service....was pretty warm in the workshop...as usual Mike was calm and in good spirits..........im looking fwd to a new clutch pac ....last few rides it felt like an automatic ......haha
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: Two dogs on March 11, 2010, 09:46:58 PM
Just came back from an Old road shake down ride fresh from Desmo clinic service
Bike is running better than new blistering quick and responsive I am very happy with Michael's work [bow_down]

Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: wrxmy99 on October 23, 2010, 05:24:42 AM
Mike

Can you fit me in for a service and tine on Tuesday or Wednesday?

The 01 M900S i.e. is currently running on 1.5 pots and just hasn't been right since I've had her for the past 18 months.

Got her with Termis.  Northside said they couldn't tune her properly with the stock ECU (she's alway hung higher revs when you pull up to a stop, have to drag the clutch once or twice to get the revs to settle) and have since added the DP ECU and open filter box but she has never run right and I suspect has fouled the plugs again which lead me to crawling home with a BAD misfire on friday.

HEEEEELP!

Cheers

Andy
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: Dannog on October 25, 2010, 02:51:51 AM
Call mike +61 417 281 041
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: wrxmy99 on October 25, 2010, 04:33:36 AM
Done

She's going in for some Desmo love on Wednesday  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Desmo Clinic (Syd)
Post by: J5 on November 09, 2010, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: Two dogs on September 06, 2009, 10:38:57 PM
Hi Kaz nah no problem like that so far on mine .
I have read on the main board quite a few had warranty repairs for that problem.
Mine is an unidentified engine noise, really baffling [bang] the head Mech. at Northside took her for a blat and could hear it but not identify what it is.
There solution so far was" its under warranty just wait until it breaks"   WTF
They wont strip the engine down to look for said noise.
I said what happens if it is a major malfunction eg.engine seizure mid corner =me high siding= broken bike and body  "NOT HAPPY JAN"
I am starting to think it is a bearing noise it must be loud as I can hear it with a full face helmet and Termi's with no baffles .
Hope your bike is still under warranty and you get some satisfaction if it is push hard for repair quote the Nth American recalls.
Dez


Hows the noise Dez ?

Did you get it documented for engine noise issue and hold a letter head paper from them stating noise and they cant find it ??

if not get on it so if it pops out of warranty you can talk to dept of fair trading with evidence in hand