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Title: St4s anyone?
Post by: TAftonomos on October 19, 2009, 04:37:45 PM
I'm looking at a 03 St4s, 5200 miles, bone stock.  Price is so good it hurts not to pick it up, ride it for awhile, and sell it for some profit.  Maybe I fall in love with it, and just keep it?

Anyway, it'll need a service (belts, valve check, maybe a rocker or 2?) but it's got new bridgstones, a new chain and sprocket, and comes with the matching side bags.

Anyone out there have one, like it, or hate it?  I find myself always wanting to ride different places, but end up driving because of the monotony of riding a slab for an hour or more (most places I head the interstate is the preferred/only way).  The ride to work is 20 mins....on a slab.  Ride to go flying is an hour....on the slab, etc..  I have no problem riding the slab for an hour or more to get to the mountains, but riding 20-30 mins to work in the cold sucks, and I end up just driving.  I'd think with something like this I'd be able to ride a lot more, but maybe I'm wrong?

This thing is supposed to eat the miles up right? 
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: LA on October 19, 2009, 05:10:59 PM
Buy that muthermake the beast with two backser dood.

LA
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: DoubleEagle on October 19, 2009, 10:05:26 PM
Quote from: LA on October 19, 2009, 05:10:59 PM
Buy that muthermake the beast with two backser dood.

LA
Right on Brother LA .

Say it like you mean it !

Dolph      ;D
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: Speeddog on October 19, 2009, 10:13:17 PM
As far as riding in the cold, a heated vest is pretty effective.
I've used mine in low 30's conditions, and been pretty comfortable.

They're certainly more touring capable than Monsters.
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: ducpainter on October 20, 2009, 03:29:26 AM
My buddy had an ST3...I know it's a different motor. He'd climb on it and ride anywhere. His only complaint was poor range. His ST only got 35mpg. I don't believe that's the case with the 4s.
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: MikeZ on October 20, 2009, 04:29:20 AM
If you don't want it send me the info.
I'm looking for a sport tourer and this would fit the bill perfectly.
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: DesmoDiva on October 20, 2009, 05:49:50 AM
My husband is on his second '02 ST4s and I have an '01 ST4.

We loves our bikes.  We have taken long trips on the STs, 2k+ week long tours, or use them to commute/run errands.

The hard cases are deceptively large.  One will easily swallow a 12 pack (bottles) with no problem.

If your going to go on longer trips, upgrade to a Sarget seat.  My stocker doesn't cut it when I'm in the saddle for more than 6 hrs.  B has never complained about his Sargent. 

Feel free to PM if you have any specific questions. 

Quote from: LA on October 19, 2009, 05:10:59 PM
Buy that muthermake the beast with two backser dood.

LA

+1
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: Desmo Demon on October 20, 2009, 07:24:43 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on October 20, 2009, 03:29:26 AM
His only complaint was poor range. His ST only got 35mpg. I don't believe that's the case with the 4s.

That is one of the lowest mgp I've heard on any of the ST bikes. Both my ST2 and my wife's hits 45-50 and a buddy's ST4s gets around 43-46 regularly.

To put it bluntly, if I only had to have one bike, the ST is the one I'd keep. For my kinda of riding, it is the absolute best, "do-all" bike that I've ever owned. I've done a SaddleSore 1000, ridden to Key West and back, and can rail and chase down some of the sportbike riders. I think the ergos are great, the handling is better than most people would ever give them credit for, and they are as comfortable as you may want to make them. Granted, they aren't the best-looking Ducati ever made, but they sure are better looking than the Multistrada.   [laugh] 

The biggest drawback to the Desmoquatrro engine is the possibility of flaking chrome on the rockers. Some people get lucky, and others down. One other thing, the timing belts are some of the most expensive ones that Ducati offers. You'll spend around $150 for a set of belts. The ST4 (ST4s) and the '02 748 use the same heads that have the cams repositioned compared to the other Quattros. The heads were done this way for more clearance between the head and the front wheel for the ST. Because of this, it uses a different belt than the SBK 'quatrros. The one cool advantage to the ST4s is the better suspesnsion and the lighter wheels over the ST2 and ST4 models.

Did I mention that they are fun to ride?

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d32/Kramer_Krazy/Terry_178.jpg)
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: Monsterlover on October 20, 2009, 08:15:31 AM
yikes

???
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: DesmoDiva on October 20, 2009, 08:22:17 AM
Quote from: Monsterlover on October 20, 2009, 08:15:31 AM
yikes

???

What's so scary, ML?

Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: ducpainter on October 20, 2009, 02:57:14 PM
Quote from: Desmo Demon on October 20, 2009, 07:24:43 AM
That is one of the lowest mgp I've heard on any of the ST bikes. Both my ST2 and my wife's hits 45-50 and a buddy's ST4s gets around 43-46 regularly.

<snip>

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d32/Kramer_Krazy/Terry_178.jpg)

The ST3 had an O2 sensor,

My buddy had the DP ecu and slip ons installed. The mileage went up to 35. :o

My next road bike will be an ST.
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: LA on October 20, 2009, 04:25:16 PM
Every single person I've talked to who owned an ST4/S has raved about the great handling, performance and relative comfort.

I'd love to have one myself.

You better buy that thing.

LA
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: TAftonomos on October 20, 2009, 06:47:10 PM
Deposit sent  ;D

Now I've got to get my shit in order quick.  Next week on wed I'll be flying out from ATL to IAH and riding the sucker back.  I have no touring gear, a DP jacket with a zip in wind liner (jacket is perforated).

I plan on getting some heated gear eventually, but I really don't want to dick with trying to hook anything up like that on the road.

I need some decent touring sheoot now I guess  ;D
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: LA on October 20, 2009, 07:13:20 PM
Doood,

You need a pickup truck.

LA
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: TAftonomos on October 20, 2009, 07:18:18 PM
driving 1300 miles on way is bad enough, I don't wanna do it twice.

Besides, thats what touring bikes are for.....right? ;D
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: swampduc on October 20, 2009, 07:35:34 PM
IAH as in Houston? There's a place to crash in Houma, LA if you need it.
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: mitt on October 20, 2009, 07:38:13 PM
Quote from: swampduc on October 20, 2009, 07:35:34 PM
IAH as in Houston? There's a place to crash in Houma, LA if you need it.

at first I thought Iowa or Idaho, and I was like the bike better have snow tires  ;D


congrats.

mitt
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: TAftonomos on October 20, 2009, 07:45:25 PM
Quote from: swampduc on October 20, 2009, 07:35:34 PM
IAH as in Houston? There's a place to crash in Houma, LA if you need it.

Very generous of you!  I may just take you up on that.  I have family in NW FL, but depending on when I leave, it would put me there awfully late night.

I've never ridden near this distance in one sitting.   I did just order some Er-6i earbuds to try and cut down on the wind noise along the way.  I need GEAR now :D
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: Speeddog on October 20, 2009, 08:00:30 PM
Next Wednesday has isolated T-storms predicted for Houston.
But that's a week away.

Might want to get a rainsuit.

OTOH, your perf jacket will dry out quick.  ;D

What's your budget for touring gear?

Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: TAftonomos on October 20, 2009, 08:21:30 PM
$500 ish?

I have a set of klim pants, bought to do DS riding and get dirty.  They are vented though, and the temps said in the low 70s.  Then again, it's been awhile since I've been on a faired bike at all, so I'm unsure about the amount of wind protection.

I could spend DAYS on advrider and still not know what to get.  I do know that an aerostich suit really isn't in the budget at the moment.
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: swampduc on October 20, 2009, 08:30:56 PM
What sizes do you wear? I might have some stuff you can borrow. On short notice and low budget, Frogg Toggs are cheap and easy.
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: TAftonomos on October 20, 2009, 08:51:59 PM
6'5", 230 lbs, 38" waist mountain of man meat  [laugh]


I'm scanning ebay, seems the kiliminjaro first gear jacket is pretty decent, looks like I could snag on of those and a set of pants for around 350-400 (or less if I find a used set)
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: Speeddog on October 20, 2009, 08:59:28 PM
Check our Sponsors?  :)
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: Raux on October 20, 2009, 09:53:49 PM
Quote from: TAftonomos on October 20, 2009, 06:47:10 PM
Deposit sent  ;D

Now I've got to get my shit in order quick.  Next week on wed I'll be flying out from ATL to IAH and riding the sucker back.  I have no touring gear, a DP jacket with a zip in wind liner (jacket is perforated).

I plan on getting some heated gear eventually, but I really don't want to dick with trying to hook anything up like that on the road.

I need some decent touring sheoot now I guess  ;D

just get a one piece rainsuit to go over your regular gear. with wet weather gloves and boots or covers for the boots. you'll have plenty of luggage space :D to carry it when you aren't using it

oh and since i didn't get the ST4 you have to create some half fairings and build the bike i wanted to do ;)
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: DesmoDiva on October 21, 2009, 04:09:16 AM
Quote from: swampduc on October 20, 2009, 08:30:56 PM
[snip]  Frogg Toggs are cheap and easy.

+1

Much more comfortable to wear than a vinyl rain suit.  I picked mine up at Gander Mtn.  Should also have them at Bass Pro and the like. 

Congrats on the purchase!!   [moto]
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: MikeZ on October 21, 2009, 04:27:46 AM
Sounds like a nice little adventure.
I almost hoping when I find a ST it's far enough away to do the same thing.
How are you handling a tag?  Just taking tag off a bike you have or getting some type of temp tag?
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: triangleforge on October 21, 2009, 08:39:09 AM
Congrats on the bike, and +1 on the Frogg Toggs. Buy the pants quite long if you go that route; I used the ones I had for hiking once, and in riding position they only came down to the middle of my shin.
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: angler on October 21, 2009, 08:53:16 AM
Quote from: TAftonomos on October 20, 2009, 08:51:59 PM
6'5", 230 lbs, 38" waist mountain of man meat  [laugh]


I'm scanning ebay, seems the kiliminjaro first gear jacket is pretty decent, looks like I could snag on of those and a set of pants for around 350-400 (or less if I find a used set)

I found bad reviews of the Kili.  I bought Olympia's AST for $299 from Revzilla and love it.  Slightly more than the Kili, but they offer tall sizes.  I would get the tall size.  I am 6'4" and much bigger around.  I got the 2xl and it fits perfect, even with a fleece under it.  I would recommend the XL tall.

I have a cheapie pair of Firstgear overpants with a liner.  I got them from Almost New last year for really cheap, but they aren't that great.
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: yoreese on October 21, 2009, 12:25:51 PM
I currently have a 2002 ST4S it is awesome!  I get about 43mpg, the only thing about the bike I don't like is the bars are a little too low for extended touring.  But if you change it then it is going to be too high for sporty riding.  So I have decided to deal with it.  [thumbsup]
I just got mine back from the 12K service no flaking rocker issues just some opening and closing shims.  It runs much smoother after the tune-up also installed a set of Pirelli Diablo Stradas.  The bike handles very well and pulls like a freight train!   [moto]
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: TAftonomos on October 21, 2009, 05:47:39 PM
Quote from: angler on October 21, 2009, 08:53:16 AM
I found bad reviews of the Kili.  I bought Olympia's AST for $299 from Revzilla and love it.  Slightly more than the Kili, but they offer tall sizes.  I would get the tall size.  I am 6'4" and much bigger around.  I got the 2xl and it fits perfect, even with a fleece under it.  I would recommend the XL tall.

I have a cheapie pair of Firstgear overpants with a liner.  I got them from Almost New last year for really cheap, but they aren't that great.

Yikes!  I knew there were some bad, but I read a lot of good stuff on advrider.  The new kili 5.0 is supposed to be much better than the last few versions, more akin to the original.  Hopefully it will be :)

3D cycle up in Maine gave me a screaming deal, $340 shipped for the jacket and pants.  I wanted the day-glo, but it was all sold out.  Black/grey.  I needed something for some colder (40's and up) weather anyway. 
Title: Re: St4s anyone?
Post by: victor441 on October 21, 2009, 07:19:20 PM
Quote from: Raux on October 20, 2009, 09:53:49 PM
just get a one piece rainsuit to go over your regular gear. with wet weather gloves and boots or covers for the boots. you'll have plenty of luggage space :D to carry it when you aren't using it

oh and since i didn't get the ST4 you have to create some half fairings and build the bike i wanted to do ;)

+1...a real pain in the arse to get in and out of but relatively cheap and very effective,  used that arrangement back when I had no car and rode year round it worked well, kept me warm and dry in really bad weather.....