I want to have the frame straightened on the '05 MTS before the Spring comes.
I talked to Kent Soignier at GMD Computrack ATL about doing it. He wants the bike stripped to the rolling stock with the engine in, and the seat tank and rear fairing halves on. Much easier than taking everything off the frame.
I need to locate a crate that will fit a Multistrada. Then I need a flat trailer to pick up the crate, drop off/ pick up the crated bike at the shipper's, since I can't take a half day off work to wait for them to come pick it up.
Anyone have any recent experience with this?
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Ask a dealer for an old crate...never know, they might hook you up. Then all you need is a shipper with a pallet jack. Maybe try uship.com
Quote from: Samsonite on January 16, 2010, 10:56:16 AM
Ask a dealer for an old crate...never know, they might hook you up. Then all you need is a shipper with a pallet jack. Maybe try uship.com
I asked at Eurosport and AMS, but nothing yet. Any Ducati crate should work, according to Tony. Probably other makes would work, too, but Ducati crates are faster. 8)
$200 each way was the quote from the broker website freightquote.com
That's acceptable, but I'd rather not waste half a weekday at home waiting for pickup and delivery. I will need a flatbed trailer to pick up the crate and then get the crated bike to and from the shipping dock.
Of course, if I bought a bike trailer, I could put the bike on it and head for Atlanta....or put both bikes on it and move to Atlanta....yeeeeaaaahhhh..... [evil]
Too bad I have to work for a living. [bang]
check the Yammi shops as well as Honda.
Quote from: muskrat on January 16, 2010, 02:23:44 PM
check the Yammi shops as well as Honda.
True; Hondoo-Suzooski North and RPM Cycle are right down the road. They might even deliver a crate to my door for a mere pittance. As tight as things are in the motorcycle service industry these days, they might even crate it and hold it for pickup, cheap!
Or you can harass Marty and Corey at AMS, I've made a hobby out of it
I'd have to catch them when Jeff isn't there; he wants $100 for a crate, if and when one turns up.
Snatch it from them when they are busy modeling clothes
Maybe I'm missing out on the obvious here but before you go to this monumental effort of sending your bike to Atlanta is there some reason you think your frame needs straightenting in the first place? Did I miss the "Pinocchio crashed" thread? Just asking...
Quote from: fastwin on January 17, 2010, 06:27:45 AM
Did I miss the "Pinocchio crashed" thread?
No, because I crashed in 2006. I only came to the realization that the frame was bent fairly recently.
It's a very, very long story I would rather not tell here, but if you buy me pint sometime, I'll roll it out.
Actually, it might be a two-pinter ;) [beer]
OK, I love a good pint story. Didn't know any of that. Sorry about the drop, never heard you complain of any related injuries so I hope you were not hurt. Is it handling weird since the drop? I suppose it is or you wouldn't be considering this. [bang] Could you relate what it's doing now versus before? Just for educational purposes. Or it could be saved and discussed over said pint! [beer] [moto]
check with Brad Miller, he builds crates or may have a few. PM me for his number.
A local transporter wanted $300 each way, and couldn't say when he could work it in to his schedule.
I got a quote for $215.24 each way via common carrier (Global Express) through freightquote.com. Rather than mess with the logistics of finding and hauling an empty crate to the house, crating the bike myself, taking the crated bike to a terminal, picking up crated bike from terminal, etc., I opted to let Cliff and Boris at RPM Cycle handle everything for me. I get the bike to them Monday, they crate it and hold it for pickup, receive it and uncrate it on return. $150 total, still a cheaper plan than using a transporter, and with about a three week turnaround, adding repair time at GMDATL. [thumbsup]
Now, all I have to do is wait for the repair bill. [bang]
your insurance covers you on this? if not check into the transport company insurance rates for additional piece of mind.
Good to hear you found a solution [thumbsup]
Quote from: muskrat on January 23, 2010, 05:25:17 AM
your insurance covers you on this? if not check into the transport company insurance rates for additional piece of mind.
That would be part of the long, sad tale, which I will scare my grandchildren with someday. The short answer is, not unless I sue them for it and somehow win. I'm thinking that writing the expense off as a capital loss on my 2010 Federal taxes would be an easier way to recoup.
a capital loss eh? good luck on that one but if you find that loophole let us all know. I have multiple toys I can use that on. [roll]
Quote from: muskrat on January 23, 2010, 05:54:27 AM
a capital loss eh? good luck on that one but if you find that loophole let us all know. I have multiple toys I can use that on. [roll]
No loophole. The Casualties, Disasters, and Thefts Pub 547 for 2009, page 2, defines Casualty: "damage, destruction or loss of property"; examples include car accidents, and therefore should apply to any motor vehicle accident:
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p547.pdf (http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p547.pdf)
I'm still researching, but I know I have seen elsewhere that expenses to recover personal capital losses due to casualty are deductible, subject to an AGI factor limitation. I have all the documentation from the accident and subsequent claim denial, so I feel more prepared to stand up to possible audit than to stand up in court against experienced insurance company shysters. I'll get something out of this. [evil]
you might check the limitations on recreation. typically you can't write-off something after two years unless you carry over a 5 year loss from cattle and the like.
I'll look into that. Cattle are usually not involved in my recreational activities. [cheeky]
moooooooooo. give Betsy give.
OK, due to the DFWM forum's TTIUWP rule, here is the best I can do with my wife's EasyShare. (don't laugh at my crude technique, you Ansel Adams wannabees! I'm still not convinced these won't somehow steal the soul of my poor 'strada...):
Exhibit A: Here is the evidence of abuse, your honor! [leo]
(http://www.kodakgallery.com/imaging-site/services/doc/4568:293422028211/jpeg/BG/async)
Note the clever re-shaping of the rear plastics, sort of a Mercedes 300 SL Gullwing look.
(http://www.kodakgallery.com/imaging-site/services/doc/4537:158052028211/jpeg/BG/async)
Looking straight up at the tank/seat pads, they have been moved several millimeters forward from where they were happily rubbing the fresh paint off the tank when all was new. Left side looks the same.
(http://www.kodakgallery.com/imaging-site/services/doc/5271:839422028211/jpeg/BG)
The Batta la Strada after a "crash diet" (ouch, I said "crash"! :o); ready to crate.
(http://www.kodakgallery.com/imaging-site/services/doc/5246:890891028211/jpeg/BG)
"You could look slimmer, too, and lose 60 pounds of ugly, unwanted fat!" Hmm, some turn signals, CRG bar ends, and a headlight are all it needs. I could even put the ExBox back on.... [evil]
(http://www.kodakgallery.com/imaging-site/services/doc/4750:867182028211/jpeg/BG/async)
60 pounds of ugly, unwanted fat. Well, GMDATL doesn't want it, anyway. I suppose I need it.
It's still ugly, though....
Can't view the technique at all! Must re-read posting pics thread.... ;D
I will be happy to discuss matters of technique with you today at TresGatos' place. For instance, the technique of draining the B la S's tank when I have no siphon pump. [bang] I'm consulting the workshop manual now to see whether I can remove the fuel lines from the throttle bodies without taking off the tank.
See you there, I hope! [thumbsup]
The frame guy in Atlanta just told me the Multistrada's frame measured well within the factory specs. He talked to a Ducati tech he trusts, and found out from him there is a known issue with the plastic Ducati tanks swelling from contamination with gasoline additives. That would account for the problem I've been experiencing with the body plastics not fitting correctly on the bike, which I thought was due to the crash - aha, tripped up by the old post hoc logical fallacy! It only cost me $1000 bucks and three years of aggravation to find this out! [bang]
There should be a recall for this, because it would affect all Ducatis with plastic tanks made by Acerbis, which is all of them. Dimensional problems are probably more obvious in the MTS and the Hypers, because their tanks are more integrated with their bodywork mountings than other models. Even if there is no active recall, I think I can get a dealer I trust to help me document the dimensional disparities to Ducati North America to help me get a new tank. I will at least have the computer frame measurement data to make my argument.
The current sbk tanks are plastic and have the swelling problem too. Can't say that I have noticed it on the hyper yet, but the only pieces mounted to the tank are a couple of loose skins and the top cover.
I've seen tons of Monsters with tanks that don't sit on the grommets well. SHITTY!!!!!
You made me go out and look at my S4RS, damn you! Sure enough, the rubber tank pad on the right side doesn't line up on the frame tubing, and the tank latch is wedged tight between the front of the tank and the igntion switch housing when I try to unfasten it. Ohhhhh Noooo! My Monster has the dreaded Tank Bloat, too!!!! :o
That dreaded tank bloat gets to most of us eventually, I wish mine fit my frame like it used to as well :-\. At least on the bikes a few new parts will resolve it, for a while.
[laugh]
I think everyone should send DNA an email on this shit. It's crap.
There is a thread on the main board that is working up support for a recall/ class action suit.
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=25074.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=25074.0)
IMHO, a recall/ class action would do everyone more harm than good. I mean, it's not like our throttles are sticking wide open and our brakes are not working (although it may sometimes appear that way to the casual observer [evil]). Getting a "Good Will" or warranty replacement and then applying a little preventive maintenance in the form of epoxy tank sealant would probably be a better resolution for the company and owners both in the long run.
Or maybe we would really rather own something else? ???
Naaaahhhhh! [evil]
Then I predict the fall of Ducati again. Let's see who rescues them this time. What a shame something so simple and so short sighted
Ah, Muskrat, let us Dcatisti not be so quick to point, with the fickle finger of blame, to Ducati as the source of the problem. I'm sure the the tanks passed US emissions testing at the last review, or the bikes couldn't be imported. But was that last review before the timetable for ethanol blending under the 2005 Energy Act ratcheted up the ETOH % in the states from 7 to 10?
Just be glad you don't own a Duc in Brazil, where they run E75 by mandate:
(http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/28007970/homepage/name/84984?type=sn)
[thumbsup] that tank will give you 250 miles at least.
Quote from: muskrat on February 13, 2010, 12:37:49 PM
[thumbsup] that tank will give you 250 miles at least.
I was thinking about all the way to the border from Sao Paulo...and back.
Good news, Ducati NA is replacing my tank under "warranty" through ESC. Interesting choice of terminology, considering it's been out of warranty almost three years....but hey, I'll take it no matter what they call it. [moto]
Quote from: Pinocchio on February 16, 2010, 06:46:43 PM
Good news, Ducati NA is replacing my tank under "warranty" through ESC. Interesting choice of terminology, considering it's been out of warranty almost three years....but hey, I'll take it no matter what they call it. [moto]
they changed mine already twice!!
its under emission warranty not the standerd fact.warranty [thumbsup]
So the warping and offset can be claimed under this?
thats what it goes under, since its fuel related.
and that warranty is a 5 yr. warranty
QuoteGood news, Ducati NA is replacing my tank under "warranty" through ESC. Interesting choice of terminology, considering it's been out of warranty almost three years....but hey, I'll take it no matter what they call it.
I'm not sure why it was such a big deal. I got mine swapped out on my monster as well.
So would it be fair to say this is why the tanks don't sit on the tabs correctly? Asking for others as I got mine swapped also and now it sits perfectly on the tabs
I would say yes; any tank fit issues I have read about seem to be related to the swelling/warping problem.
quit buyin' fancy new-fangled, plastic-tanked motorsickles. i got the steel tank, and i got no UNWANTED bulges. heh heh. bulges.
ha ha you said bulge.
Quote from: ato memphis on February 17, 2010, 04:57:41 PM
quit buyin' fancy new-fangled, plastic-tanked motorsickles. i got the steel tank, and i got no UNWANTED bulges. heh heh. bulges.
...but we have to deal with rust. :P
everybody needs a little iron in their diet.
QuoteJohn,
Ducati has an ETA of 04/20/10.
Thank You,
Kandie
Eurosport Cycle
3100 Airport Freeway
Fort Worth, TX 76111
(817)838-8135
--- On Sat, 3/13/10, John McAuley <jbmcauley@verizon.net> wrote:
From: John McAuley <jbmcauley@verizon.net>
Subject: Update request
To: eurosportcycle@sbcglobal.net
Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 6:01 PM
Hi, Martha
Have you received any word from Ducati NA when my 2005 Multistrada 1000DS tank will ship to you?
Thanks,
John
Well, that will give me plenty of time to reinstall the resprung forks and monoshock. Sheez Louise!
meaning three weeks from that date. :o
My thumb should be fairly well healed by then. [thumbsup]
Must have been difficult extracting it from where the sun doesn't shine? [evil] [roll] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] Sorry John, it's just what popped into my head... ;D [laugh] [laugh] [thumbsup]
I picked up the tank from ESC on Friday. After three days in the garage, the B la S roared to life again today! [bow_down] Hallelujah!
The new tank has completely cured the misalignment of the bodywork. Gazing at B la S in all its splendor, I decided to put back the PowerCard, the Leo Vince slip-ons, the CRG levers, and the ZeroG windscreen. Two large chips on the grab handle are the only obvious evidence of a past problem. A used topcase rack would probably be a good thing to replace it with....
Where be these pictures?
My thoughts exactly...
Quote from: a m on April 05, 2010, 04:48:09 AM
Where be these pictures?
Quote from: boobies on April 05, 2010, 01:36:32 PM
My thoughts exactly...
Oh, ye of little faith! >:( When I said " I decided to", that don't mean "i done it", yet!
So far I've got the B la S back to stock, except for mounting the the windscreen and plugging in the PowerCard, because to install the Leos requires getting the taillight wiring loom out of the stupid heatshield tubing for the umpteenth time, which is a half hour's work in itself. For that and the CRG levers I need more light than I had in the tomb....uh, garage at 9:00 PM last night. Besides, I Ben busy tryin' to fulfill prophesy over Hur....uh, here. ??? Piper's respringing of the forks and shock wouldn't show anyway, except for the hideous blue RaceTech shock spring. You don't really want to see another picture of a stock MTS 1000DS, do you? Blecchhh!!! [puke]
Patience, brethren (and sistren), the Batta la Strada will rise again in all its glory, and there will be graven imagery for the heathens [evil]....except for the QuatD ExBox contraption. :P There is no way in H-E-doublehockeysticks anyone is getting me to mess with that POS again. >:(
i've always liked the old multistrada, just me i guess.
i like all air cooled ducs
When it comes to the Multistrada, beauty is as beauty does.
Quote from: a m on April 05, 2010, 03:43:48 PM
i've always liked the old multistrada, just me i guess.
i like all air cooled ducs
Me too. All air head two valvers rock when it comes to sound!! [thumbsup] [moto]