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Title: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: ♣ McKraut ♣ on June 06, 2008, 06:45:04 AM
just wondering if anyone else wanted me to grab some extra friction straps; i'm going to order a handful for myself and thought i may as well get more to save on shipping.  the first two links below are straps that were used once for crating aprilia bikes, and should be like new.  i don't know how man lbs they're rated for...see the third link for more expensive straps.

orange friction straps ($4):  http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=5469
blue friction straps ($5):  http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=5470
Ancra friction straps ($22):  http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idProduct=1675

just post in here what you want; i'd like to make the purchase in the next couple days.

EDIT:  this is from Ed Cook with AF1:
if you can get qty 20 of one part # sold all at once = 15% off,
30 people is 20% off,
40 people is 25% off.

get a list going, then contact us when you have 20 sold, and we can setup the BUY part of it online.
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Me: 4 Blue (2 pairs)
George: 4 Blue (2 pairs)
Patrick: 4 Blue (2 pairs)
Ronr: 6 Blue
Scott: 2 Blue

Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: Duc L'Smart on June 06, 2008, 06:48:46 AM
Great prices! I wonder how the blue ones compare to the red ones?!?
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: ♣ McKraut ♣ on June 06, 2008, 06:51:04 AM
/shrug.  they look pretty frickin similar to me...but the red ones have their load weight ratings on the website.  i suppose if i (or someone else) get motivated at some point today, a call could be placed to the store to see if they're basically the same strap (which looks like the case).  but i think if they're good enough for aprilia, they're probably good enough for me.
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: bryant8 on June 06, 2008, 07:02:34 AM
I think I'm all stocked up on tie downs.

Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: caffeinejunkee on June 06, 2008, 07:40:06 AM
I'm down for [edit] 2 pairs blue.  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: fastwin on June 06, 2008, 07:42:12 AM
Ancra makes the best tie downs! [thumbsup] They are worth the $$$. I've got some that are damn near as old as I am... but they work a lot better than I ever will. [cheeky]
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: cdc on June 06, 2008, 08:09:40 AM
I'd get ratchet tie downs instead.  They are easier to tighten and secure.

cdc
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: bryant8 on June 06, 2008, 08:19:21 AM
Charles, he's got some ratchet straps already.  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: cdc on June 06, 2008, 08:25:46 AM
what's the other straps with cam locks for?

cdc
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: Duc L'Smart on June 06, 2008, 08:26:06 AM
Quote from: cdc on June 06, 2008, 08:09:40 AM
I'd get ratchet tie downs instead.  They are easier to tighten and secure.

I have a real hard time with the ratchets. Confuded the hell out of me, although I understand they may be a little more secure.
I've used the friction straps for years & have never had a problem  :-\
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: never2loud on June 06, 2008, 08:36:11 AM

Whoa, they make something other than ratcheting tiedowns?  Those things work great; would like to see the friction type in action some time.
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: ♣ McKraut ♣ on June 06, 2008, 08:42:17 AM
the straps on my ratchets are pretty much crap if they come into contact with anything, which is why i'm picking up this stuff.  one of my straps wore all the way through on the return trip, just from rubbing a little rust spot...no sharp edges or anything. 
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: cdc on June 06, 2008, 08:55:15 AM
used ratchets for years too and have not had problems.  Unless you use then frequently, I always have to think about how they work.  But with the larger mechanism, it's easier for me to tighten and seems to lock more securely.  avoid rubbing on anything when I use them though. 

Has anyone seen hooks which can be secured like what mountain climbers use (don't know the name of the hook).

cdc

Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: bryant8 on June 06, 2008, 08:57:40 AM
That would be a carabiner
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: cdc on June 06, 2008, 09:00:57 AM
Quote from: bryant8 on June 06, 2008, 08:57:40 AM
That would be a carabiner

There ya go.  Thanks.  Seen this kind anywhere B?

cdc
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: fastwin on June 06, 2008, 09:02:06 AM
Carabiners is what you are thinking of.

Yep rich, sounds like you need new ones for sure. Seriously, the Ancras kick butt. $100 says that wouldn't have happened to an Ancra strap. By the way, I use both types... Canyon harness on the bars with Ancra friction straps up front and two rachet straps on the back pulling slightly forward. I think I could flip the trailer and the bike would still be there. Thinking about one of those Baxley Sport Chocks on the trailer. Would still use the four strap set up just wouldn't have to rely on the front two as much.  
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: never2loud on June 06, 2008, 09:04:35 AM

Yeah we've got a whole box full of the medium duty caribiners that we use with the ratcheting tie downs.  Run the caribiner through an eye bolt on the trailer and then find a secure place on the bike (or Canyon Dancer).  That said, we've got wheel chocks as well - that's probably the bigger key to success using either the ratchet or friction type tie downs.
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: bryant8 on June 06, 2008, 09:05:49 AM
I'm sure you could find something of the like at REI
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: never2loud on June 06, 2008, 09:08:34 AM

[thumbsup] +1
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: ♣ McKraut ♣ on June 06, 2008, 10:37:58 AM
updated group buy options in original post...
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: cdc on June 06, 2008, 11:26:01 AM
Quote from: n2f on June 06, 2008, 09:08:34 AM
[thumbsup] +1

you got yours at REI too?

cdc
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: never2loud on June 06, 2008, 12:39:00 PM

There and Academy....  Box full o' that crap  [roll]
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: Ronr on June 07, 2008, 08:59:37 AM
I'll sign up for 6 of the blue ones since they are a little stronger.

Oh wait, I have a question. Do the blue and orange straps have S hooks??  The picture on the website doesn't show them, but how the heck would they work without them? I noticed the Ancra straps made the point that they came with hooks.
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: El Matador on June 07, 2008, 09:26:33 AM
Quote from: cdc on June 06, 2008, 08:55:15 AM
used ratchets for years too and have not had problems.  Unless you use then frequently, I always have to think about how they work.  But with the larger mechanism, it's easier for me to tighten and seems to lock more securely.  avoid rubbing on anything when I use them though. 

Has anyone seen hooks which can be secured like what mountain climbers use (don't know the name of the hook).

cdc



Yup, the culprit from dropping  hiero's bike was a ratchet tie down... rubbed itself until it broke...
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: Duc L'Smart on June 07, 2008, 11:34:21 AM
Quote from: chipo on June 07, 2008, 09:26:33 AM
Yup, the culprit from dropping  hiero's bike was a ratchet tie down... rubbed itself until it broke...
:o :'(

Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: ♣ McKraut ♣ on June 08, 2008, 07:47:00 PM
Quote from: Ronr on June 07, 2008, 08:59:37 AM
I'll sign up for 6 of the blue ones since they are a little stronger.

Oh wait, I have a question. Do the blue and orange straps have S hooks??  The picture on the website doesn't show them, but how the heck would they work without them? I noticed the Ancra straps made the point that they came with hooks.

pretty sure they have S-hooks...I'll email the site again just to make sure.

anyone else for some of these?
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: Duc L'Smart on June 08, 2008, 07:56:20 PM
Yeah, I'm feelin' kinda blue...

2 pair, please ;D

Hopethey don't clash with the PS :P
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: ♣ McKraut ♣ on June 08, 2008, 08:26:49 PM
would like to pull the trigger Monday or Tuesday...just need four more straps for a nice discount for these....anyone else needing some straps??
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: svoloch on June 08, 2008, 08:33:15 PM
Quote from: McKraut on June 08, 2008, 08:26:49 PM
would like to pull the trigger Monday or Tuesday...just need four more straps for a nice discount for these....anyone else needing some straps??

2 pair, blue.  I'll gladly pay you tuesday...
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: Duc L'Smart on June 09, 2008, 05:43:45 AM
Quote from: McKraut on June 08, 2008, 07:47:00 PM
pretty sure they have S-hooks...

S-hooks are a must
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: Duc L'Smart on June 09, 2008, 05:44:30 AM
Quote from: McKraut on June 08, 2008, 08:26:49 PM
just need four more straps for a nice discount for these....

4 more straps, or 4 more pairs?!?
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: ♣ McKraut ♣ on June 09, 2008, 05:56:02 AM
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on June 09, 2008, 05:44:30 AM
4 more straps, or 4 more pairs?!?

unsure of quantity.  also not sure if they have S-hooks still...i'm thinking not (pic doesn't look like it, and description does not mention any).  waiting for confirmation on that, though.  i'll post here when i get it.

edit because i'm in the dark...
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: Duc L'Smart on June 09, 2008, 06:03:51 AM
The title says-

AF1 Racing Tie Downs - Blue Pair (AF1 Tie Downs - b)

"Blue Pair". Generally means 2. Deceptive advertising? I think we need clarification.

I don't see any S-Hooks...
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: ♣ McKraut ♣ on June 09, 2008, 08:36:50 AM
i've confirmed that these do NOT come with S-hooks (blue or orange), and the BLUE are rated around 500-700lbs.  the quantity is in pairs.  these are regular loop-type friction straps.

i'm still getting a handful of these; they come in pretty handy.  let me know if anyone else would like some, and how many PAIRS you would like.
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: caffeinejunkee on June 09, 2008, 09:40:20 AM
OK, I'll take 2 pair....
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: Duc L'Smart on June 09, 2008, 11:34:54 AM
I'm gonna pass. Not sure I would use them without S-hooks.
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: Ronr on June 09, 2008, 03:35:46 PM
I better pass too.  My rusty trailer would wear right through the nice straps.  Thanks for the offer
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: NorDog on June 09, 2008, 05:03:42 PM
I'm selling 2 pair of tie downs here...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=002&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=120271243304&rd=1
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: Duc L'Smart on June 09, 2008, 05:08:09 PM
Quote from: NorDog on June 09, 2008, 05:03:42 PM
I'm selling 2 pair of tie downs here...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=002&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=120271243304&rd=1

Why?!?!?!?
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: NorDog on June 09, 2008, 07:23:30 PM
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on June 09, 2008, 05:08:09 PM
Why?!?!?!?

Well, because I have 3 pair of ratcheting tie downs and I rarely use more than 1 pair of those at one time.  I never use the black Harley ones.  A little (late) spring cleaning.
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: ♣ McKraut ♣ on June 12, 2008, 05:50:47 AM
i'll be buying these later today...  let me know if you want some!
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: bryant8 on June 12, 2008, 08:20:03 AM
What's your count on the straps?

I can use a few more just in case.

I think ***'s idea of carabiners would work for those without the S-hooks
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: caffeinejunkee on June 12, 2008, 08:28:05 AM
I'm still in for two pair.
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: ♣ McKraut ♣ on June 12, 2008, 08:36:14 AM
Quote from: bryant8 on June 12, 2008, 08:20:03 AM
What's your count on the straps?

I can use a few more just in case.

I think ***'s idea of carabiners would work for those without the S-hooks

i think our count is 6 pairs.  i'll buy a pair or two extra B, and you grab a couple if you need some more
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: ♣ McKraut ♣ on June 13, 2008, 12:23:11 PM
wow...these are in already...i'll pick them up from my leasing office after work, and distribute them when i see ya.

i ordered an extra pair if you're interested B
Title: Re: tie downs, anyone?
Post by: caffeinejunkee on June 13, 2008, 10:19:42 PM
Quote from: McKraut on June 13, 2008, 12:23:11 PM
wow...these are in already...i'll pick them up from my leasing office after work, and distribute them when i see ya.

i ordered an extra pair if you're interested B

Thanks Rich!