http://superbikeplanet.com/2010/Aug/100826liveinindy.htm (http://superbikeplanet.com/2010/Aug/100826liveinindy.htm) -- seems crazy to me that rossi could walk through the airport, even an american airport, on this weekend and not be recognized.
calendar for the weekend: http://superbikeplanet.com/2010/Aug/100825ims3.htm (http://superbikeplanet.com/2010/Aug/100825ims3.htm)
It's amazing how well organized IMS seems to be compared to Laguna. Those guys really put in an effort to put on a good show. Laguna makes you feel like they're doing you a huge favor by unlocking the gates.
Quote from: enzo on August 26, 2010, 03:03:11 PM
It's amazing how well organized IMS seems to be compared to Laguna. Those guys really put in an effort to put on a good show. Laguna makes you feel like they're doing you a huge favor by unlocking the gates.
Mid-west vs. west coast metality...
Quote from: DesmoDiva on August 26, 2010, 03:32:50 PM
Mid-west vs. west coast metality...
IMS has been handling crowds for the biggest motor sports events of the year for 100 years. They really have it down to a science.
Predictions>
1.- Jorge
2.- Spies
3.- Nicky
Yours?
Aoyama
Barbera
Kallio
I it just me, or does Pedrosa look like a make-a-wish foundation kid in this picture?
(http://resources.motogp.com/files/images/xy/2010/MotoGP/n513614_pedrosa.rik.slideshow.jpg)
Indy Thursday pre-race press conference transcript
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Aug/100826e.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Aug/100826e.htm)
worth it for the Colin Edwards comments alone....
Quote from: El Matador on August 26, 2010, 07:42:26 PM
I it just me, or does Pedrosa look like a make-a-wish foundation kid in this picture?
(http://resources.motogp.com/files/images/xy/2010/MotoGP/n513614_pedrosa.rik.slideshow.jpg)
[laugh] [clap] [laugh]
The funny part is the guy he is high fiving is only 5'10"!
Quote from: zooom on August 27, 2010, 03:39:16 AM
Indy Thursday pre-race press conference transcript
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Aug/100826e.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Aug/100826e.htm)
worth it for the Colin Edwards comments alone....
It has. Can I just say something real quick for future reference? Earlier when you said 10th in the championship, that's like a dagger in the heart. So let's just leave that shit out next time, OK? If it weren't for these assholes being so fast, I might be a little bit higher up in the championship. (Laughter) [clap]
At least Edwards is openly candid. [thumbsup] These riders are at the top of their class but I think it's funny that Aoyama is actually more articulate than the others with, possibly, the exception of Edwards. Yeah, I remember Sullivan spinning too. [laugh]
FP1... still going.. nickly crashed in 13, stoner is plain crazy.
FP1: http://superbikeplanet.com/2010/Aug/100827e.htm (http://superbikeplanet.com/2010/Aug/100827e.htm)
Quote from: gm2 on August 27, 2010, 09:45:25 AM
FP1... still going.. nickly crashed in 13, stoner is plain crazy.
Don't forget, Ben as well.
Quote from: kopfjäger on August 27, 2010, 12:09:30 PM
Don't forget, Ben as well.
yup. my comment was during FP1.. he hadn't crashed yet
Quote from: gm2 on August 27, 2010, 12:20:20 PM
yup. my comment was during FP1.. he hadn't crashed yet
[thumbsup]
FP1 ---
| Pos. | Num. | Rider | Nation | Team | Bike | Km/h | Time | Gap 1st/Prev. |
| 1 | 27 | Casey STONER | AUS | Ducati Team | Ducati | 318.0 | 1'40.884 | --- |
| 2 | 99 | Jorge LORENZO | SPA | Fiat Yamaha Team | Yamaha | 314.9 | 1'41.109 | 0.225 / 0.225 |
| 3 | 69 | Nicky HAYDEN | USA | Ducati Team | Ducati | 317.4 | 1'41.405 | 0.521 / 0.296 |
| 4 | 26 | Dani PEDROSA | SPA | Repsol Honda Team | Honda | 318.6 | 1'41.421 | 0.537 / 0.016 |
| 5 | 46 | Valentino ROSSI | ITA | Fiat Yamaha Team | Yamaha | 313.1 | 1'41.623 | 0.739 / 0.202 |
| 6 | 5 | Colin EDWARDS | USA | Monster Yamaha Tech 3 | Yamaha | 312.9 | 1'41.664 | 0.780 / 0.041 |
| 7 | 4 | Andrea DOVIZIOSO | ITA | Repsol Honda Team | Honda | 318.7 | 1'41.683 | 0.799 / 0.019 |
| 8 | 11 | Ben SPIES | USA | Monster Yamaha Tech 3 | Yamaha | 314.0 | 1'41.722 | 0.838 / 0.039 |
| 9 | 41 | Aleix ESPARGARO | SPA | Pramac Racing Team | Ducati | 310.3 | 1'41.992 | 1.108 / 0.270 |
| 10 | 33 | Marco MELANDRI | ITA | San Carlo Honda Gresini | Honda | 319.7 | 1'42.147 | 1.263 / 0.155 |
| 11 | 58 | Marco SIMONCELLI | ITA | San Carlo Honda Gresini | Honda | 315.5 | 1'42.268 | 1.384 / 0.121 |
| 12 | 40 | Hector BARBERA | SPA | Paginas Amarillas Aspar | Ducati | 317.1 | 1'42.368 | 1.484 / 0.100 |
| 13 | 36 | Mika KALLIO | FIN | Pramac Racing Team | Ducati | 312.2 | 1'42.600 | 1.716 / 0.232 |
| 14 | 19 | Alvaro BAUTISTA | SPA | Rizla Suzuki MotoGP | Suzuki | 315.4 | 1'42.696 | 1.812 / 0.096 |
| 15 | 65 | Loris CAPIROSSI | ITA | Rizla Suzuki MotoGP | Suzuki | 312.3 | 1'42.790 | 1.906 / 0.094 |
| 16 | 7 | Hiroshi AOYAMA | JPN | Interwetten Honda MotoGP | Honda | 311.7 | 1'42.874 | 1.990 / 0.084 |
| 17 | 14 | Randy DE PUNIET | FRA | LCR Honda MotoGP | Honda | 315.5 | 1'42.987 | 2.103 / 0.113 |
announcers said that RDP's leg was so swollen after Brno he couldn't walk for 3 days. yeesh.
they also said that allegedly Rizla is waving a lot of money at him to come ride the suzi.
DePuniet looked like he was hurtin'.
He came back too soon, IMO.
Nicky's crash was bad looking, sucks to have to run over to the bike right away.
People get hurt doing that.
He was doing some wicked slides. [beer]
Somehow Jorge keeps that bike on rails.
Sweet - Spies and Hayden on the front row
I guess Ben and Nicky got fired up after their crashes.
Woot! Go The Ben! Let's hope he can really bring it tomorrow. Looks like my predictions might come true.
So...
all of a sudden Ben has the equipment?
Is he on the same bike as You'reghey?
Or is it Texas pride?
Either way...
good for Ben and Nicky.
I think it's a combination.
Track is counterclockwise, bumpy, and slick.
He knows the track.
It's hot.
It's in the USA.
Bodywork has been switched between the #11 and #46 bikes.
Quote from: Speeddog on August 28, 2010, 03:42:22 PM
<snip>
Bodywork has been switched between the #11 and #46 bikes.
ding ding ding....
Other stuff too...
Rossi is broken. Probably temporary, but I've seen it be permanent for others (Gary Jones, Bob Hannah, prolly 3 others I could drag up in a minute).
Pedrosa seemed to be going in reverse of normal, starting out fast then slowing down.
Stoner went backwards.
Stoner jammed up a few guys there at the end.
Quote from: kopfjäger on August 28, 2010, 03:56:48 PM
Stoner jammed up a few guys there at the end.
and showed his true colors.
"what a dick move" is what came out of my mouth...
WooHoo!!! for The Ben and Nicky. [clap]
Quote from: DesmoDiva on August 28, 2010, 04:07:01 PM
"what a dick move" is what came out of my mouth...
<snip>
odd...
I thought...
what a whiney little pregnant dog... :-\ ;D
Quote from: kopfjäger on August 28, 2010, 03:56:48 PM
Stoner jammed up a few guys there at the end.
Haven't seen any video of Qually.
Was he going a lot slow, or just a little?
Quote from: Speeddog on August 28, 2010, 04:20:18 PM
Haven't seen any video of Qually.
Was he going a lot slow, or just a little?
It seemed to be one of his...
you're
not gonna follow me moments.
Hmm... well, he's a racer. :P
Rossi on the deck 2 sessions in a row.
He's gotta quit crashing.
I'm at Indy, saw Stoner crash 30 feet in front of me today. That turn 6 is a doozy.
Spies, obviously, was excellent, and Lorenzo is even smoother in person than he looks on TV.
Quote from: Speeddog on August 28, 2010, 04:20:18 PM
Haven't seen any video of Qually.
Was he going a lot slow, or just a little?
He just checked up, because he wasn't gonna better his time. I don't think he did anything on purpose. Just caught a couple riders up. Not that either one of them is a contender.
Quote from: IV on August 29, 2010, 01:42:27 AM
Bombshell:
Harley to enter MotoGP with two hot blondes next year:
ummmm.....dark roots....and one is missing half an arm [evil]
That's HD all right....all show and defective goods ;D
Quote from: humorless on August 28, 2010, 04:33:35 PM
It seemed to be one of his...
you're not gonna follow me moments.
like either one of those guys (Kallio?) was a threat....didn't Casey flip the bird after one of them 'passed' His Slowness a bit close after the decel?
A year from now he'll be whining about Honda sabotaging his bike [evil]
Speaking of Sabotage.....gotta wonder what's happening with Rossi.....broken leg shorlty after the rumor mill really cranked up about leaving Yamaha after this year, numerous front-end slides the past few weeks..... [coffee]
Morning warm-up:
1. Jorge LORENZO 1:40.482
2. Dani PEDROSA 1:40.708
3. Ben SPIES, USA 1:40.711
4. Casey STONER, 1:40.804
5. Andrea DOVIZIOSO 1:40.883
6. Valentino ROSSI 1:40.901, crash
7. Nicky HAYDEN 1:41.012
8. Hector BARBERA 1:41.261
9. Marco MELANDRI 1:41.303
10. Alvaro BAUTISTA 1:41.545
11. Mika KALLIO 1:41.635
12. Colin EDWARDS 1:41.670
13. Aleix ESPARGARO 1:41.766
14. Marco SIMONCELLI 1:41.820
15. Randy DE PUNIET 1:41.973
16. Hiroshi AOYAMA 1:42.016
17. Loris CAPIROSSI 1:42.509
Rossi on the deck again...apparently alright as he went back out.
Great job Ben. [clap]
Holy shit did Pedrosa put on a clinic. [bow_down]
Ben did well. [beer]
Just missing the last little bit.
Quote from: Speeddog on August 29, 2010, 11:18:26 AM
Ben did well. [beer]
Just missing the last little bit.
Once he gets on the factory yamaha bike i think he'll do much better.
SPEED set a new low in coveage of a motorcycle race. Pathetic.
In other news Dani is a god, spunky show by the Ben.
Quote from: tufty on August 29, 2010, 01:50:51 PM
SPEED set a new low in coveage of a motorcycle race. Pathetic.
:'(
I agree, that last little bit is probably the bike.
Ben is the real deal.
Quote from: tufty on August 29, 2010, 01:50:51 PM
SPEED set a new low in coveage of a motorcycle race. Pathetic.
In other news Dani is a god, spunky show by the Ben.
+1
showed way too much off track nonsense
I felt like I barely saw the race itself
Well, the SPEED coverage of Indy was a little better than their recent coverage on the other MotoGP races.
Compared to the euro coverage... pathetic.
Someday you guy's will realize that MotoGP racing is about as popular as soccer in the states. The coverage will never be that of the Euro coverage, or on the MotoGP website. Wait a minute, that is available. :D
Quote from: lethe on August 29, 2010, 01:57:06 PM
+1
showed way too much off track nonsense
I felt like I barely saw the race itself
Their qualifying coverage was even worst, if that's possible.
Speed sucked.
The turd flew past Ben like he was standing still. That bike is just crazy fast and the midget weighs nothing. Power to weight.
Ben looked awesome even though he has inferior equipment. If I was Lorenzo I would be worried in 2012 after Ben has a few seasons to learn the tracks.
Moto2 was carnage! :o
Quote from: duccarlos on August 30, 2010, 04:27:30 AM
Ben looked awesome even though he has inferior equipment.
Don't you think that is a bit of a stretch? The satellite Yam isn't really that bad. Colin makes it sound worse because his career is about done and can't admit it. The Ben outpaces factory riders at times and has placed well all season.
Quote from: Jester on August 30, 2010, 08:13:15 AM
Don't you think that is a bit of a stretch? The satellite Yam isn't really that bad. Colin makes it sound worse because his career is about done and can't admit it. The Ben outpaces factory riders at times and has placed well all season.
You don't agree that he has inferior equipment to what Lorenzo uses?
Quote from: duccarlos on August 30, 2010, 08:15:05 AM
You don't agree that he has inferior equipment to what Lorenzo uses?
I agree its not the same, but I think inferior isn't the word. The Suzuki is inferior equipment. The satellite Yamaha is a very small step down in comparison. That small step is all Ben needs going into the next few years... but inferior equipment? No.
Quote from: duccarlos on August 30, 2010, 08:15:05 AM
You don't agree that he has inferior equipment to what Lorenzo uses?
I think Ben is on Rossi's bike now. ;D
Quote from: humorless on August 30, 2010, 06:02:33 PM
I think Ben is on Rossi's bike now. ;D
This... is a possibility.
Quote from: IV on August 31, 2010, 01:37:28 AM
He sure is tough for a pretty boy.
http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2010/08/photos-nicky-hayden-takes-knee-down-literally/ (http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2010/08/photos-nicky-hayden-takes-knee-down-literally/)
Go Hayden.
That may be his arm after he went down in practice, he was digging in his elbow to protect the broken wrist, and burned a hole through his leathers and then some. All of those guys shrug off injury after injury, makes other sports figures look pretty lame.
Quote from: Jester on August 30, 2010, 04:31:18 PM
I agree its not the same, but I think inferior isn't the word. The Suzuki is inferior equipment. The satellite Yamaha is a very small step down in comparison. That small step is all Ben needs going into the next few years... but inferior equipment? No.
So what is it...subpar? If it isn't the same then it is inferior. Agreed the Suzuki is more inferior.
the Suzuki should be dropped down into the Moto2 class....
Rossi's bike? Not according to Yamaha. And not according to the top speeds. The Ben's Yami was the second slowest bike on the grid. The only slower bike is Colin's.
Quote from: Spidey on August 31, 2010, 08:29:46 AM
Rossi's bike? Not according to Yamaha. And not according to the top speeds. The Ben's Yami was the second slowest bike on the grid. The only slower bike is Colin's.
Apparently it had the same aero bodywork and mechanicals. Everything except the electronics package. Well according to the eurosport commentators anyways.
Still inferior compared to the factory bikes that were chasing him. So we're either talking about a guy that is motivated to win in one of his "home" races or 2 guys that were just not giving their 100%. I pick Ben's motivation. Plus from what I understood, the MAerican riders had one advantage of being more accustomed to riding in the heat and the track was bumpy, similar to other tracks in the US.
Quote from: Drunken Monkey on August 30, 2010, 09:03:14 PM
This... is a possibility.
Call me silly...
Ben is learning in the first 1/4 of the season...and doing his workmanlike job of it...
then he is hanging around...sniffing at the podium...on an underpowered bike...
then the rumors start to fly about Rossi and Ben's obvious ascension to the factory team.
Then he qualys on the front row...
and then announcements are made and contracts are signed and he's on pole on a bike that's down on power? ???
Call me silly. ;)
Quote from: Spidey on August 31, 2010, 08:29:46 AM
Rossi's bike? Not according to Yamaha. And not according to the top speeds. The Ben's Yami was the second slowest bike on the grid. The only slower bike is Colin's.
Yeah but the factory Yammyhammers are only marginally faster, and they're been doing alright for themselves. They're by far the slowest manufacturer on the grid.
Quote from: humorless on August 31, 2010, 03:59:52 PM
Call me silly...
you are silly!
Quote from: DesmoLu on August 31, 2010, 04:04:16 PM
Yeah but the factory Yammyhammers are only marginally faster, and they're been doing alright for themselves. They're by far the slowest manufacturer on the grid.
marginally faster? they have the lowest top speed, they just have the most stable chassis for being able to enter the corners deeper and carry more cornerspeed which is what Jorge, Val and now Ben have been doing....carrying more cornerspeed.
LOL! It's funny listening to you lot discuss the Ben's bike not being up to par hence him not winning. Was it just last year that the consensus here was that the package just wasn't as important as the rider? Nah!
-Jest sayin' ;D [popcorn]
Quote from: zooom on August 31, 2010, 05:07:58 PM
marginally faster? they have the lowest top speed, they just have the most stable chassis for being able to enter the corners deeper and carry more cornerspeed which is what Jorge, Val and now Ben have been doing....carrying more cornerspeed.
Kinda what I was getting at. The Factory Yamaha is only marginally faster than the Tex 3 bike of Ben and Colin. So saying that what The Ben did last time out is OMG WTF GOAT is kind of silly considering what Lorenzo and Vale have done.
Quote from: tufty on September 01, 2010, 02:52:45 AM
LOL! It's funny listening to you lot discuss the Ben's bike not being up to par hence him not winning. Was it just last year that the consensus here was that the package just wasn't as important as the rider? Nah!
Ratio of importance of the bike to rider is substantially different in GP than in WSBK. Besides, it's easier to blitz the WSBK field based on sheer talent than the GP field. The GP riders are better.
Besides, that Honda absolutely walked away from The Ben.
Quote from: Triple J on August 30, 2010, 07:15:54 AM
Moto2 was carnage! :o
I just watched it last night. Finally. Holy fack. Complete carnage. I think there were at least 20 bikes down. I'm not exaggerating. That first crash (or series of two crashes) collected eight or nine bikes right there.
Quote from: Spidey on September 01, 2010, 07:50:29 AM
I just watched it last night. Finally. Holy fack. Complete carnage. I think there were at least 20 bikes down. I'm not exaggerating. That first crash (or series of two crashes) collected eight or nine bikes right there.
Yup, pretty insane stuff. I find myself getting more and more excited over the racing in Moto2. More so than with Motogp. Is that a bad thing?
Not a bad thing. It's only a bad thing if you're expecting Speed to show the race.
Not a bad thing. <broken record> But if you like Moto2, you GOTTA be watching AMA, particularly Daytona Sportbike. I hate the make the beast with two backs outta DMG and refused to watch AMA for a while, but the racing this year has been awesome.
I'd love it if MotoGP went to Rossi's proposed formula for 2012. No electronics, 1000cc. And bigger fuel capacity and a mix of tire manufacturers (maybe). It'll be f'n ridonkulous. [thumbsup]
Did you guys see photos of Nicky's knee after the aftermath? I'm not talking about his gear, it's a photo of his actual knee he posted.
Quote from: duccarlos on September 01, 2010, 09:15:17 AM
Did you guys see photos of Nicky's knee after the aftermath? I'm not talking about his gear, it's a photo of his actual knee he posted.
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=41988.msg753733#msg753733 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=41988.msg753733#msg753733)
Kinda ironic that the Honda USA team seems to have gotten a duff engine:
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Sep/100901moto2a.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Sep/100901moto2a.htm)
Wow, a derby within the same thread. I generally don't click on the links since the job blocks 90% of fun stuff.
Quote from: Spidey on September 01, 2010, 08:51:24 AM
Not a bad thing. <broken record> But if you like Moto2, you GOTTA be watching AMA, particularly Daytona Sportbike. I hate the make the beast with two backs outta DMG and refused to watch AMA for a while, but the racing this year has been awesome.
Best racing this season. [thumbsup]