2010 MotoGP Round 11: Indy (spoilers!)

[duccarlos]

Still inferior compared to the factory bikes that were chasing him. So we're either talking about a guy that is motivated to win in one of his "home" races or 2 guys that were just not giving their 100%. I pick Ben's motivation. Plus from what I understood, the MAerican riders had one advantage of being more accustomed to riding in the heat and the track was bumpy, similar to other tracks in the US.

[ducpainter]

This... is a possibility.

Call me silly...

Ben is learning in the first 1/4 of the season...and doing his workmanlike job of it...

then he is hanging around...sniffing at the podium...on an underpowered bike...

then the rumors start to fly about Rossi and Ben's obvious ascension to the factory team.

Then he qualys on the front row...

and then announcements are made and contracts are signed and he's on pole on a bike that's down on power?

Call me silly.

[DesmoLu]

Rossi's bike?  Not according to Yamaha.  And not according to the top speeds.  The Ben's Yami was the second slowest bike on the grid.  The only slower bike is Colin's. 

Yeah but the factory Yammyhammers are only marginally faster, and they're been doing alright for themselves. They're by far the slowest manufacturer on the grid.

[zooom]

Call me silly...

you are silly!

Yeah but the factory Yammyhammers are only marginally faster, and they're been doing alright for themselves. They're by far the slowest manufacturer on the grid.

marginally faster? they have the lowest top speed, they just have the most stable chassis for being able to enter the corners deeper and carry more cornerspeed which is what Jorge, Val and now Ben have been doing....carrying more cornerspeed.

[tufty]

LOL! It's funny listening to you lot discuss the Ben's bike not being up to par hence him not winning. Was it just last year that the consensus here was that the package just wasn't as important as the rider? Nah!

-Jest sayin'

[El Matador]

marginally faster? they have the lowest top speed, they just have the most stable chassis for being able to enter the corners deeper and carry more cornerspeed which is what Jorge, Val and now Ben have been doing....carrying more cornerspeed.

Kinda what I was getting at. The Factory Yamaha is only marginally faster than the Tex 3 bike of Ben and Colin. So saying that what The Ben did last time out is OMG WTF GOAT is kind of silly considering what Lorenzo and Vale have done.

[Spidey]

LOL! It's funny listening to you lot discuss the Ben's bike not being up to par hence him not winning. Was it just last year that the consensus here was that the package just wasn't as important as the rider? Nah!

Ratio of importance of the bike to rider is substantially different in GP than in WSBK.  Besides, it's easier to blitz the WSBK field based on sheer talent than the GP field.  The GP riders are better.  

Besides, that Honda absolutely walked away from The Ben.

[Spidey]

Moto2 was carnage! 

I just watched it last night.  Finally.  Holy fack.  Complete carnage.  I think there were at least 20 bikes down.  I'm not exaggerating.  That first crash (or series of two crashes) collected eight or nine bikes right there.

[El Matador]

I just watched it last night.  Finally.  Holy fack.  Complete carnage.  I think there were at least 20 bikes down.  I'm not exaggerating.  That first crash (or series of two crashes) collected eight or nine bikes right there.

Yup, pretty insane stuff. I find myself getting more and more excited over the racing in Moto2. More so than with Motogp. Is that a bad thing?

[duccarlos]

Not a bad thing. It's only a bad thing if you're expecting Speed to show the race.

[Spidey]

Not a bad thing.  <broken record>  But if you like Moto2, you GOTTA be watching AMA, particularly Daytona Sportbike.  I hate the make the beast with two backs outta DMG and refused to watch AMA for a while, but the racing this year has been awesome.  

I'd love it if MotoGP went to Rossi's proposed formula for 2012.  No electronics, 1000cc.  And bigger fuel capacity and a mix of tire manufacturers (maybe).  It'll be f'n ridonkulous.   

[duccarlos]

Did you guys see photos of Nicky's knee after the aftermath? I'm not talking about his gear, it's a photo of his actual knee he posted.

[ducpainter]

Did you guys see photos of Nicky's knee after the aftermath? I'm not talking about his gear, it's a photo of his actual knee he posted.

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=41988.msg753733#msg753733

[Speeddog]

Kinda ironic that the Honda USA team seems to have gotten a duff engine:
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Sep/100901moto2a.htm

[duccarlos]

Wow, a derby within the same thread. I generally don't click on the links since the job blocks 90% of fun stuff.