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Looks like something landed behind/on it?
Quote from: someguy on June 18, 2008, 10:28:03 PM
Looks like something landed behind/on it?
Like a fire bomb...
Quote from: someguy on June 18, 2008, 10:28:03 PM
Looks like something landed behind/on it?
No, that's where my bike was sitting when I discharged the fire extinguishers on it.
:-\
You werent trying to take out a tank dent by any chance, were ya?
Quote from: Rameses on June 18, 2008, 10:29:53 PM
No, that's where my bike was sitting when I discharged the fire extinguishers on it.
:-\
So sorry.
1) why the fire? and
2) you should've let it burn. That dry chemical smell? It's a permanent mod, I'm afraid.
IDIOT!!
*said in your avatars voice*
;)
Seriously Rams..wtf happened dude?! :'( :'( :'(
WTF happened :o
I was taking the tank off.
My method for draining the gas in the tank is to pull the delivery hose, put another hose on it (that's the hose hanging down on the ground in the first pic), put the other end of the hose in a gas can, and cycle the key on-off-on-off-on-off until the fuel pump skeets all of the gas into the can.
Well, my battery was dead, so getting the fuel pump to function meant hooking up jumper cables.
Too bad I didn't check to see what position the key was in prior to hooking up the cables.
The key was in the on position and touching the second cable resulted in sparks. [roll]
So in short, you're right Napoleon, I'm an idiot. :P
One good thing that come from this..you were smart enough to HAVE a fire extinguisher on hand and it didn't burn more or blow up on you!!
You had a duc catch on fire too!
Brother! :D
Quote from: IZ on June 18, 2008, 10:45:47 PM
One good thing that come from this..you were smart enough to HAVE a fire exstinguisher on hand and it didn't burn more or blow up on you!!
Well, the first thing I did was run the gas can back a good distance.
Second was to yank the cables and back my truck up.
Then I searched for the fire extinguisher in my garage, which took a while to find, and put it out.
Then the fire re-ignited and I used to rest of the extinguisher's charge to no avail.
Meanwhile I'd remembered that there was another extinguisher on the exterior wall of the building (in the background of the second pic).
It took all of that one to get it put out the second time. (And just barely.)
The damage is actually worse than I was able to capture with my camera phone. There's plenty of melted shit and whatnot.
We'll see what my insurance company says. :-\
Holy SH!T BALLS BatMan :-X . That has to be a first for us
D*mn!! It took both of those to put it out?! :o
That was burning good then..YIKES!
Well, you're lucky that it was just the bike. It could have been much worse.
Good thinking though on your part to get the gas can out of there.
You get burned at all?
So I think the question here is... Is it salvagable or or you just gunna part her out and bite the bullet on a new steed ???
First: extinguisher retardant is corrosive -- get it off by whatever method as soon as possible. Rust is preferable. It's why I always grab a halon fire extinguisher if around a vehicle. Make 1000% sure you don't have that stuff down the intake manifolds, etc.
Result: looks like it's time for a complete revamp and heavy customization project upcoming for yourself. I guess it will be nicknamed the "Phoenix Monster" after rebirth.
note: Glad to hear nobody was hurt or other damage occurred to surroundings.
Or....don't clean it at all. People will just think you're me.
Quote from: IZ on June 18, 2008, 11:00:33 PM
You get burned at all?
I've got cat-like speed and reflexes!
No skin damage. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Pancake81 on June 18, 2008, 11:07:33 PM
So I think the question here is... Is it salvagable or or you just gunna part her out and bite the bullet on a new steed ???
Quote from: MotoCreations on June 18, 2008, 11:08:44 PM
Result: looks like it's time for a complete revamp and heavy customization project upcoming for yourself. I guess it will be nicknamed the "Phoenix Monster" after rebirth.
I'll wait and see what the insurance company says.
Quote from: Rameses on June 18, 2008, 11:12:25 PM
I've got cat-like speed and reflexes!
No skin damage. [thumbsup]
Lucky!
You have skills!
Yikes! Glad you weren't blown up! [thumbsup]
Quote from: msincredible on June 18, 2008, 11:57:23 PM
Yikes! Glad you weren't blown up! [thumbsup]
Thanks. :)
The Mythbusters told me I didn't need to worry about that though. :P
Fark. :'(
Glad you're OK.
dude that blows!!! [bang]
Im sure after your build with Jobu, you guys have the skills to rebuild it.
put it out on a deserted street coner so It can "dissapear"
good grief, Sorry.
shit dewd
I don't think you need to worry about the insurance man's decision
that is a total loss as far as they are concerned
a cosmetic total at the minimum
but a buy back/rebuild looks pretty viable
At least you are ok, afraid the bikes totalled [bang]
OMG :o
Shit dude, sorry. :'(
Let's bring it down here for the teardown/rebuild...single-sided swingarm!!! [evil]
Thats hot. Sorry I couldn't resist. Hope the insurance gods are in your favor.
sorry dude!
can we have some more detailed pics.......
Couldn't save the fireworks until the 4th of July?!? [laugh]
Seriously glad you're OK... Let us know how it goes with insurance [thumbsup]
Quote from: Rameses on June 18, 2008, 11:12:25 PM
I've got cat-like speed and reflexes!
No skin damage. [thumbsup]
That....
and fire is motivational.
Sorry about your bike dude.
Damn Rameses. That really sucks. I'm with Dave. Haul it to his place so we can start rebuilding it.
Biggest issue is that you're not hurt.
Quote from: pompetta on June 19, 2008, 05:04:48 AM
Let's bring it down here for the teardown/rebuild...single-sided swingarm!!! [evil]
I thought you knew how much of a stickler I am about symmetry. [laugh]
Quote from: porschaholic on June 19, 2008, 05:17:06 AM
Thats hot. Sorry I couldn't resist.
[cheeky]
Quote from: herm on June 19, 2008, 05:56:34 AM
sorry dude!
can we have some more detailed pics.......
Yeah, I'm gonna be over where I keep my bike to meet up with the insurance guy later tonight, so I'll snap some better pics while I'm there.
I'll take my camera instead of using my cellphone like I did with the first two.
Quote from: ducpainter on June 19, 2008, 07:47:57 AM
That....
and fire is motivational.
Yeah, I think that might've been the fastest I've ever moved. I think Jobu would've been laughing his ass off watching me running around if it weren't for the look of amazement on his face b/c of the flames. [laugh] [laugh]
damn man....
I hope insurance is good to you!
Quote from: minkman on June 19, 2008, 08:42:33 AM
Damn Rameses. That really sucks. I'm with Dave. Haul it to his place so we can start rebuilding it.
Biggest issue is that you're not hurt.
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on June 19, 2008, 06:13:04 AM
Seriously glad you're OK... Let us know how it goes with insurance [thumbsup]
I'm gonna wait to decide on what to do with it until I see what the insurance company wants to do.
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on June 19, 2008, 06:13:04 AM
Couldn't save the fireworks until the 4th of July?!? [laugh]
[laugh] [laugh]
And thank you to everyone for the kind words. I really am lucky that I didn't get burnt when it went up. I know I had some gas on my hands, I'm not really sure how they didn't catch on fire.
I think the fact that I came away from it unscathed is what's allowed me to keep a good attitude about it. It'd be a lot harder to shake my head about it and crack jokes if I had been at the hospital last night.
holy crap that's terrible! :-\
glad you are ok though, and sorry about your bike.
Quote from: minkman on June 19, 2008, 08:42:33 AM
Biggest issue is that you're not hurt.
I'm sure plenty of people take issue with Rameses not being hurt.... :P
Man, sorry about your bike.
Robbie
Quote from: someguy on June 19, 2008, 07:21:00 PM
I'm sure plenty of people take issue with Rameses not being hurt.... :P
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
sorry dude. But was the fire like big? How tall did the flames get How bad did it smell?
I can understand if you dont want to answer that..
Quote from: robartlum on June 19, 2008, 10:03:43 PM
sorry dude. But was the fire like big? How tall did the flames get How bad did it smell?
I can understand if you dont want to answer that..
The flames were about 8 feet tall at the most intense point.
I couldn't really smell anything except the chemical smell of the fire extinguishers.
Give me a couple of minutes and I'll have some more detailed photos up.
At 1st I thought it looked like a bike from a street in Iraq after the Air Force straffed the area. Such a site ..... Poor bike....Poor Rameses.......you are very lucky and very unlucky........ To have such an up attitude about the whole thing is amazing. ....Flame on Brother !
The ultimate in Dark paint jobs...
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I'd always meant to find time to tear apart my shock and get the spring powdercoated black. :-\
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Here's what carbon fiber looks like after the resin is burnt out of it.
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Similar damage, but to a lesser extent, was sustained on the vertical cylinder belt cover.
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Even my 2x4 tank prop got roasted. :P
Some minor charring down lower...
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And ground zero...
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Looks like it's time for an aftermarket ECU...
Oh man...so sorry to hear what happened to you.Just hope the insurance do cover something like that.
Seriously, man - I felt like crying when I looked at the photos. Little accountant in my brain was adding up parts from frame to frame. I'm praying your insurance company will come through for you.
It would take most people a week or two to get to the point of accepting the situation. You got there in about 4 mins flat. My hats off to you, Sir. [beer]
Why go to that much trouble to drain the tank?
on my old 620 dark I just took the tank off and let gravity do its thing. worked fine enough for me to take it to a dent shop subsequently.
Talked to my claims adjuster today.
First thing she says is "what kind of bike is a Ducati?"
I replied "I'm sorry, what do you mean?"
She says "is it like a Bourget or Big Dog?"
I replied "are you make the beast with two backsing serious?"
Okay, I just thought that, but you can imagine how the rest of the conversation went.
So she proceeds to tell me that she doesn't have an estimate kit for a Ducati and has no way of knowing what it would cost to repair it.
I'll be calling my local dealer tomorrow to find out when I can drop the carcass off with them to get a repair estimate worked up since my claims adjuster is too incompetent to do it herself. [roll]
Quote from: factorPlayer on June 20, 2008, 03:54:14 AM
Why go to that much trouble to drain the tank?
on my old 620 dark I just took the tank off and let gravity do its thing. worked fine enough for me to take it to a dent shop subsequently.
I don't like the thought of gas freely flowing from the tank. Using the pump to drain the tank, if the gas can fills up or for any other reason you need to stop the flow of gas, you just stop cycling the key.
If anyone else decides to use this technique though, I'd highly recommend either making sure the key is off if you need jumper cables or, better yet, hook the cables to the bike first and then the charged battery. :-\
need to stop gas flow? pinch the hose.
Quote from: knightrider on June 23, 2008, 11:03:45 PM
need to stop gas flow? pinch the hose.
Or don't turn the key off and then back on and it stops itself.
Also on my bike, the hose clamps on the throttle body end of the fuel hoses are non-removeable. (Crimped on.)
So to free drain the gas, I'd have to pull the return hose from the tank, letting gas dump directly out of the tank nipple until I got another hose on it.
It's all a moot point now anyway though.
moot indeed.
I set my volkswagen on fire when I was 18 (accidentaly). Had to use a fire extinguisher on the inside. That was messy. :-[
oh and my condolences.
Felt more than a little queasy scrolling through the photos of the damage -- my condolences!
And your insurance adjuster has a claims kit for Bourget, Big Dog and other micro-market customs but not Ducati? Sheesh. [roll]
Quote from: triangleforge on June 24, 2008, 08:26:31 AM
And your insurance adjuster has a claims kit for Bourget, Big Dog and other micro-market customs but not Ducati? Sheesh. [roll]
I know, right?
And here's another good one...
She asked me what all was damaged and I listed off everything I could think of.
Then she says "can you ride it to the dealership to get the estimate done?" [roll]
Quote from: Rameses on June 24, 2008, 11:18:27 PM
Then she says "can you ride it to the dealership to get the estimate done?" [roll]
You mean that's not cosmetic damage?
Maybe she was questioning your manhood, grow a pair and ride it to the dealer! [roll] [laugh]
Uhhhhh, the insurance company should send a truck out to get it....
Quote from: Vindingo on June 24, 2008, 11:48:01 PM
You mean that's not cosmetic damage?
Maybe she was questioning your manhood, grow a pair and ride it to the dealer! [roll] [laugh]
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Good call, I hadn't thought of it like that. ;D
Quote from: NAKID on June 24, 2008, 11:49:18 PM
Uhhhhh, the insurance company should send a truck out to get it....
I'm willing to do what I can to expedite this process.
From what I've seen thus far, these people need all the help they can get.
What insurance co do yu have so we know who NOT to go with....
Don`t you just sometimes feel surrounded by IDIOTS [bang]
Quote from: NAKID on June 25, 2008, 12:12:03 AM
What insurance co do yu have so we know who NOT to go with....
State Farm
Quote from: big bear on June 25, 2008, 12:13:57 AM
Don`t you just sometimes feel surrounded by IDIOTS [bang]
Yes.
Yes, I do.
[laugh]
Quote from: Rameses on June 25, 2008, 12:16:27 AM
State Farm
Are you kidding me? STATE FARM?!
Wow, I was thinking someone smaller.
Sounds almost as bad as my experience with Dairyland...
Quote from: NAKID on June 25, 2008, 12:45:20 AM
Are you kidding me? STATE FARM?!
Wow, I was thinking someone smaller.
Sounds almost as bad as my experience with Dairyland...
I shit you not.
I've been kinda surprised myself.
Well, I just signed up with Foremost (subsidary of Farmers) and they have great rates because they classify the Monster as a Standard. You don't need to have any other policies with them to insure the bike (unlike State Farm)...
Damn glad your ok i have state farm also i'm going to want to see how this all plays out.
jebus. i just read this.
rameses... so sorry, man. but as everyone's already said, i'm super stoked you're ok.
hope she's fixable. if not, get an electric bike!
Quote from: Ash on June 25, 2008, 01:36:25 PM
jebus. i just read this.
rameses... so sorry, man. but as everyone's already said, i'm super stoked you're ok.
hope she's fixable. if not, get an electric bike!
If it's totaled, I already have my eye on something. ;)
wha wha tell me?
John,
I was at Barnett's yesterday and saw your bike. What a mess. I think you can safely assume it's totaled. I'm really glad you weren't hurt.
Ken
Quote from: minkman on July 04, 2008, 05:39:50 AM
John,
I was at Barnett's yesterday and saw your bike. What a mess. I think you can safely assume it's totaled. I'm really glad you weren't hurt.
Ken
Were they actually looking at it to get an estimate worked up or were they standing around with their thumbs in their asses? :P
I talked to Mike on the phone two days ago and he said "I haven't had a chance to look at it yet to get an estimate done."
Right, like he's actually the one that's gonna do the estimate. [roll]
Quote from: Rameses on July 04, 2008, 11:11:29 AM
Were they actually looking at it to get an estimate worked up or were they standing around with their thumbs in their asses? :P
I talked to Mike on the phone two days ago and he said "I haven't had a chance to look at it yet to get an estimate done."
Right, like he's actually the one that's gonna do the estimate. [roll]
You shoulda waited for me! [laugh] Mike -> [coffee]
BTW, he
is the one who will do the estimate.
If you decide to do the rebuld option i have an oven that should be big enough to powder coat the frame. and i also have gloss black and flat black powder on hand. so we could probaly get it like new for very close to free (beer for me propane for the oven and a trip out here to fayetteville)
just an option
Quote from: cshadow2 on July 04, 2008, 11:18:52 AM
If you decide to do the rebuld option i have an oven that should be big enough to powder coat the frame. and i also have gloss black and flat black powder on hand. so we could probaly get it like new for very close to free (beer for me propane for the oven and a trip out here to fayetteville)
just an option
I'll keep that in mind. :)
Thank you. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Rameses on July 04, 2008, 11:25:23 AM
I'll keep that in mind. :)
Thank you. [thumbsup]
[cough] RC51 [/cough]
if it will fit i will bake it i am not about segregration just send measurment from the frame head to the back and i will measur the oven aparatus. i assume that an rc has a removable subfram so it would more than likely fit
Quote from: pompetta on July 04, 2008, 11:27:21 AM
[cough] RC51 [/cough]
I'm still looking, but I'm having trouble finding one. PlusI have no idea how long it's gonna take Barnett's and my insurance company to get their shit finished. >:(
(And I actually caught myself looking at Banditos on ebay last night. :o )
Quote from: cshadow2 on July 04, 2008, 11:31:49 AM
if it will fit i will bake it i am not about segregration just send measurment from the frame head to the back and i will measur the oven aparatus. i assume that an rc has a removable subfram so it would more than likely fit
They do have a removable subframe, but the RC51s came with flat black frames. ;)
i have some crome powder to if you need one to match a ww2 style german helmet for the passenger seat.....
Quote from: cshadow2 on July 04, 2008, 12:07:51 PM
i have some crome powder to if you need one to match a ww2 style german helmet for the passenger seat.....
[laugh] [laugh]
Quote from: Rameses on July 04, 2008, 11:33:27 AM
(And I actually caught myself looking at Banditos on ebay last night. :o )
I think the DMF
has an official "I'm drunk" thread. :P
Got a call from the dealer this afternoon...
$9,200 worth of damage. :o
Quote from: Rameses on July 10, 2008, 04:49:30 PM
Got a call from the dealer this afternoon...
$9,200 worth of damage. :o
I'll give you $50 for it. Cash.
Quote from: someguy on July 10, 2008, 06:40:45 PM
I'll give you $50 for it. Cash.
[laugh] [laugh]
I bet you would. [cheeky]
So it looks like I'm going to be getting a check from my insurance company tomorrow afternoon.
It's time to decide what I'm going to replace my S4 with.
I've been looking at a bunch of bikes and am having a really hard time figuring out what I want.
Here's what I've been looking at (in no particular order)...
Honda RC51
Husqvarna SMR510
Husqvarna SM610
BMW G650X
Hypermotard
SBK (996/996S/998/748S/748R/D16RR)
Sport Classic
KTM 950 SMR
Anybody have any other suggestions or comments to add to my confusion?
Quote from: Rameses on July 30, 2008, 10:03:52 PM
So it looks like I'm going to be getting a check from my insurance company tomorrow afternoon.
It's time to decide what I'm going to replace my S4 with.
I've been looking at a bunch of bikes and am having a really hard time figuring out what I want.
Here's what I've been looking at (in no particular order)...
Honda RC51
Husqvarna SMR510
Husqvarna SM610
BMW F650X
Hypermotard
SBK (996/996S/998/748S/748R/D16RR)
Sport Classic
KTM 950 SMR
Anybody have any other suggestions or comments to add to my confusion?
Husqvarna SM610 ;)
We *could* make suggestions, but a price limit would help. Offhand, HP2 [evil]
Quote from: someguy on July 30, 2008, 10:07:33 PM
Husqvarna SM610 ;)
We *could* make suggestions, but a price limit would help. Offhand, HP2 [evil]
Yeah, notice I slipped in the Desmosedici under SBK. ;D
For a price limit, I'd like to keep it at $9,000 to be able to pay cash for it. If the bike were sweet enough though, I'd probably be willing to take out a $3,000 loan. I'd rather avoid having to make payments until I get out of school though.
Quote from: Rameses on July 30, 2008, 10:15:44 PM
Yeah, notice I slipped in the Desmosedici under SBK. ;D
For a price limit, I'd like to keep it at $9,000 to be able to pay cash for it. If the bike were sweet enough though, I'd probably be willing to take out a $3,000 loan. I'd rather avoid having to make payments until I get out of school though.
I'll sell you a sweet S4R for say, 8 :P
Quote from: someguy on July 30, 2008, 10:24:25 PM
I'll sell you a sweet S4R for say, 8 :P
What year? ;D
Quote from: Rameses on July 30, 2008, 10:36:27 PM
What year? ;D
04', bought new in '06 (sat for 2 years on the showroom floor). While filthy, it's been mechanically loved.
Comes with tank dent :P
A tank dent?! SWEET!! ;D
I think if I stick with a 4 valve Monster I'm gonna go testastretta though.
Umm... what kind of riding do you want to do?
'Cause your list of bikes is all over the map as far as what their strengths are.
Touring?
Adventure touring?
Canyons?
Commuting?
Track days?
Quote from: Speeddog on July 31, 2008, 12:31:12 AM
Umm... what kind of riding do you want to do?
'Cause your list of bikes is all over the map as far as what their strengths are.
Touring?
Adventure touring?
Canyons?
Commuting?
Track days?
See, that's another thing I've been wrestling with.
In the past, the vast majority of my riding has been local twisties.
I wouldn't mind having something that I could tolerate doing the occasional 500 mile superslab trip on though. But I managed that on my S4 a couple of times.
My commute is about a mile and a half, so that's not much of an issue.
And I'd like to start doing some track days in the near future.
Used 999 will do all you need exept offraod ;D
My next bike is going to be the KTM 950SMR, so my vote is for that. If you haven't ridden one, you owe it to yourself to get a demo ride in. It will change you forever ;D
Any chance that I could nick the radiator off your S4 before the insurance company picks it up? ;D
Or better yet, swap my radiator for yours!!!
I've never ridden one but those Huskys look sweet. I've heard some great things about them too.
But of all the bikes listed and it were my money I'd get a 998. Love em'.
Yeah, but you can't jump 998 in the woods (or shouldn't [laugh])
Supermotos rule!
Quote from: big bear on July 31, 2008, 01:51:41 AM
Used 999 will do all you need exept offraod ;D
...including look ugly enough that I won't want to ride it. :P
speed triple
super duke
one seriously blinged out fire salvage project....;)
I would get a 996 or a 998...
+1 and a 5 gallon gas tank and $3 rubber tubing to siphon gas from one tank to another...to replace the use of jumper cables and other electric bits around gas. [coffee] ;D
Is there anything on your list that doesn't require maintenance?
Quote from: Jobu on August 01, 2008, 01:06:56 AM
Is there anything on your list that doesn't require maintenance?
That would be the Honda.
Just take your time and get whats right fo you. Check craigslist daily!