Ducati Monster Forum

Local Clubs => OZ monsters => Topic started by: RRossi on January 29, 2012, 04:41:12 PM

Title: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: RRossi on January 29, 2012, 04:41:12 PM
Hi guys

Im in a realy bad Bind, turns out my New Ducati has a pin hole leak in the fuel tank, its a M1000S IE 2003

I have been told not to get it repaired as there will be more rust inside, so where can I get a new tank from any help is appreciated :)


RR
Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: Two dogs on January 29, 2012, 07:20:08 PM
Didn't you buy that one from a dealer ?
If so it is his problem  [thumbsup]
Where is the leak , if it is around the hinge could be the result of a drop/repair incident if not
Steel tank pin hole sounds like rust , ebay probably the cheapest option ...start hunting if its not under warranty. [thumbsdown]
Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: Rowdy on January 29, 2012, 07:41:29 PM
Where is it leaking from?

The steel tank on my S4R was leaking from a crack from the hinge plate. I have owned the bike since new and it has never been dropped or impacted in anyway. I was aware this was a weak point and used to siphon fuel from the tank before I lifted it up, and it still failed. I had that successfully repaired.

If it is leaking from a rust hole, the tank is probably corroded pretty badly inside and the whole thing may need replacing. There are heaps on eBay but their quality may be questionable.

California Cycle Works has some stuff and they are pretty helpful.
http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/shop/catalog/ducati/fuel.html (http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/shop/catalog/ducati/fuel.html)

Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: monstermick58 on January 29, 2012, 08:22:05 PM
RR,

   Mate, not good but not unfixable, I don't know how long you have owned the bike but being a 2003 model I wouldn't be holding out for a warranty replacement.

   Anyway, if the dealer doesn't come to the party I suggest you get some POR-15, it's designed to repair tanks like yours with rust pin holes, make sure you follow the instructions to the letter, I've used it on my 1997 Monster as it started around the hinge(normal failure) and I've heard of badly rusted tanks being saved by this product.

   From memory it cost around $65-$75 but that was back in 2005, good luck with it, keep us posted on how you go.






                                        Mmick
Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: RRossi on January 29, 2012, 08:39:31 PM
Thanks guys for the responses,


It leaking from a pin hole on the left side just above the top cylinder, yeah I have a price of $310 to get the tank welded and they put in a chemical called k somthing so it dosnt happen again, then I need to get the tank sprayed, so im expecting at the least 1k all up, as for warranty it is over the 3 months so not expecting anyhting there, its just a shame im copping it in the ass,

even if I buy a S/H unit I will need to get it painted so better off getting mine fixed?

Its just a pain in the ass....


RR
Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: The Don on January 29, 2012, 08:55:42 PM
http://www.moto-works.jp/beater/index.html (http://www.moto-works.jp/beater/index.html)
http://www.moto-works.jp/beater/index.html#d9 (http://www.moto-works.jp/beater/index.html#d9)
Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: FIFO on January 29, 2012, 09:00:53 PM
Hi  i have the same model and fixed up the rust with KBS Coatings ,Aussi made worked well ,my tank wasnt leaking ,but after it toppled in a car park ,stressed the hinge and started to leak, very common place to leak. i have heard they can be welded or solderd with out destroying the paint on the top side, Teff had his repaired in Sydney somwere.

KBS will fix the leak :P
http://www.kbs-coatings.com.au/kbs-motorcycle-tank-sealer-kit (http://www.kbs-coatings.com.au/kbs-motorcycle-tank-sealer-kit)

check out this thread
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=32635.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=32635.0)

I ended up buy a brand new tank from a guy on ebay from Italy $600 plus shipping about $200 and had it in 3 days [thumbsup]
But only painted in red so had to get resprayed but if you can find the right colour way to go.better than 4k from Ducati here :(

Or you could put a plastic tank on but you will need to change the hinge and make shure you get the fuel pump with it.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DUCATI-FUEL-PETROL-TANK-RED-WHITE-MONSTER-S2R-800-1000-/120842193886?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item1c22c18bde (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DUCATI-FUEL-PETROL-TANK-RED-WHITE-MONSTER-S2R-800-1000-/120842193886?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item1c22c18bde)

Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: RRossi on January 29, 2012, 09:14:52 PM
Nice but at just over 2k and 2 months might give it a miss, but they do look stunning!!!



RR
Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: PAUL M on January 29, 2012, 09:43:36 PM
Quote from: monstermick58 on January 29, 2012, 08:22:05 PM
RR,
 Mate, not good but not unfixable, I don't know how long you have owned the bike but being a 2003 model I wouldn't be holding out for a warranty replacement.
 Anyway, if the dealer doesn't come to the party I suggest you get some POR-15, it's designed to repair tanks like yours with rust pin holes, make sure you follow the instructions to the letter, I've used it on my 1997 Monster as it started around the hinge(normal failure) and I've heard of badly rusted tanks being saved by this product.
 From memory it cost around $65-$75 but that was back in 2005, good luck with it, keep us posted on how you go. Mmick


Used this in my tank, 3 years ago (leaking around hinge) still going fine cost under $100,
that was to clean & seal tank.
http://www.ppc.au.com/coatings_sealer.htm (http://www.ppc.au.com/coatings_sealer.htm)
Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: monstermick58 on January 30, 2012, 12:43:55 AM
Quote from: Rob s on January 29, 2012, 09:00:53 PM
. i have heard they can be welded or solderd with out destroying the paint on the top side, Teff had his repaired in Sydney somwere.


Yeah Rob, I know Sean from D-Moto has a bloke 'just up the road' that does the repair, apparently you end up with a little scortch mark on the paint that is hidden where the seat meets the tank.


  D-Moto also can get rockers repaired and oil/radiators too!





                                Mmick
Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: 748s on January 30, 2012, 05:14:16 AM
iron tank fuel injection
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SERBATOIO-ROSSO-BIANCO-TANK-RED-WHITE-DUCATI-MONSTER-/260928372944?pt=Ricambi_e_Accessori_Moto&hash=item3cc08b00d0#ht_1666wt_1145 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SERBATOIO-ROSSO-BIANCO-TANK-RED-WHITE-DUCATI-MONSTER-/260928372944?pt=Ricambi_e_Accessori_Moto&hash=item3cc08b00d0#ht_1666wt_1145)

plastic tank fuel injection
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SERBATOIO-NERO-BIANCO-TANK-BLACK-WHITE-DUCATI-MONSTER-/260928372985?pt=Ricambi_e_Accessori_Moto&hash=item3cc08b00f9#ht_1666wt_1145 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SERBATOIO-NERO-BIANCO-TANK-BLACK-WHITE-DUCATI-MONSTER-/260928372985?pt=Ricambi_e_Accessori_Moto&hash=item3cc08b00f9#ht_1666wt_1145)

Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: dragonworld. on January 30, 2012, 03:49:51 PM
Had my old 750 tank leak (at hinge) repaired by Brad when he was at Moto1.   ;)

Would have to be at least 6-7 yearsv ago and have had no further troubles! Just make sure there is bugger all fuel in the tank when I raise it! [thumbsup]

Where was it done Brad??  ;D
Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: Rowdy on January 30, 2012, 07:06:15 PM
You could get a new tank, red with the white stripe and then get a white stripe for the rear cowl.

Or get a blank one to paint with the cowl and change the look of your bike completely. A word of warning though, this may be the catalyst to a sequence of events that may not have an end.

Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: brad black on January 30, 2012, 08:07:28 PM
Quote from: dragonworld on January 30, 2012, 03:49:51 PM
Had my old 750 tank leak (at hinge) repaired by Brad when he was at Moto1.   ;)

Would have to be at least 6-7 yearsv ago and have had no further troubles! Just make sure there is bugger all fuel in the tank when I raise it! [thumbsup]

Where was it done Brad??  ;D

race radiators in dandenong, who now won't do it.  brown davis in bayswater do, but charge a lot more and weld not solder.

if it's rusty cleaning it up will turn the pin hole into a huge hole.  but it still can be an economical repair.
Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: FIFO on January 31, 2012, 02:17:57 AM
Quote from: 748s on January 30, 2012, 05:14:16 AM
iron tank fuel injection
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SERBATOIO-ROSSO-BIANCO-TANK-RED-WHITE-DUCATI-MONSTER-/260928372944?pt=Ricambi_e_Accessori_Moto&hash=item3cc08b00d0#ht_1666wt_1145 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SERBATOIO-ROSSO-BIANCO-TANK-RED-WHITE-DUCATI-MONSTER-/260928372944?pt=Ricambi_e_Accessori_Moto&hash=item3cc08b00d0#ht_1666wt_1145)

plastic tank fuel injection
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SERBATOIO-NERO-BIANCO-TANK-BLACK-WHITE-DUCATI-MONSTER-/260928372985?pt=Ricambi_e_Accessori_Moto&hash=item3cc08b00f9#ht_1666wt_1145 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SERBATOIO-NERO-BIANCO-TANK-BLACK-WHITE-DUCATI-MONSTER-/260928372985?pt=Ricambi_e_Accessori_Moto&hash=item3cc08b00f9#ht_1666wt_1145)



Yep thats the Dude i got my tank from. [thumbsup]

Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: suzyj on February 01, 2012, 02:09:14 AM
Hay RR,

If you get a new one, I'd be interested in yer old one, leak and all...


Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: RRossi on February 01, 2012, 05:26:46 PM
Well I ended up getting the tank fixed and painted at a cost of $1200 but that also includes painting the rear cowl too,

all I need to do now is pick my colour??  stay red or go black??  hard one, but I think I will end up just sticking with the red?


Thanks for everyones help but really apprciate it!


Grazi Tutti


RR


Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: FIFO on February 01, 2012, 10:00:47 PM
Quote from: RRossi on February 01, 2012, 05:26:46 PM
Well I ended up getting the tank fixed and painted at a cost of $1200 but that also includes painting the rear cowl too

RR


   $1200   :o :o :o :o :P :'(

Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: RRossi on March 03, 2012, 02:05:16 AM
Guys  im trying to rebiuld my monstr in time for the tank and have come accross a problem with the rear wheel, for the life of me I dont remeber how it goes??


I have two conical spacers one longer than the other, what side do they go on?

I have read the bigside needs to be on the frame, but the longer of the two spacers will only fit on the left side wheel, here is pic:



(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii19/vxssrr01wa/DSC02358.jpg)






(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii19/vxssrr01wa/DSC02359.jpg)


any help would be apprecitate :)
Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: FIFO on March 03, 2012, 02:35:05 AM

I just emailed you the parts catalogue you should be able to work it out from that. 
I had alook at my bike and you can't see with out out removing the wheel, and  i can't  remember those bits off hand old timer's disease :-[

Rob
Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: brad black on March 03, 2012, 02:37:16 AM
longer one goes in the sprocket carrier, with the flange to the wheel side (slides in from wheel side).  it should fit inside the large thin spacer.
Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: RRossi on March 03, 2012, 03:19:46 AM
Thanks Robs

but I alreadyhave that one and it dosnt show it at all  [bang]

I can see the long one fitting in the hub carrier but the other smaller one?

does it go the same way as I have taken the pic??

thansk for everyones help so far!

really appreciate it

RR
Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: RRossi on March 03, 2012, 10:32:45 PM
well I ended up sorting out the rear wheel, it turns out the larger flange had to go inside the hub carrier, so all good, the wheel is cleaned and polished and sitting nice and snug inside the rear trailing arms,

so today I polished up a few things and starting putting things back on, it ws fairly straight forward however I have damged a switch as I didint celan/cut the threads on the rear sets that have been powder coated...dumb ass, so that now is going to hold me back,

if anyone has a spare switch of know were I can get one asap please let me know the part number is : 539.4.003.1B


anyway enough talking here are a few pics, finally after 1 month its back on the ground again!! lol




(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii19/vxssrr01wa/DSC02364.jpg)





(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii19/vxssrr01wa/DSC02366.jpg)

mmm cleanish....




(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii19/vxssrr01wa/DSC02369.jpg)




(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii19/vxssrr01wa/DSC02367.jpg)




(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii19/vxssrr01wa/DSC02370.jpg)





and here a close up of the lhs muffler all bolted up with the polished pipe:



(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii19/vxssrr01wa/DSC02394.jpg)




So basicaly I have to wait for this switch and then I can get started again.


Please also if anyone knows of anything else I have missed or can do to my beast while its off the road please let me know :)



Hope you enjoy the pics

Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: suzyj on March 04, 2012, 12:23:19 PM
Quote from: RRossi on March 03, 2012, 10:32:45 PM
(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii19/vxssrr01wa/DSC02370.jpg)

Is that the stock header?  It looks gorgeous.

It's a good thing you're not in Sydney, otherwise I might have to do something awful to your bike just before concourse.
Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: lila696 on March 04, 2012, 06:57:32 PM
Looking great RR.

Hope to see you on a club ride ride soon?
Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: RRossi on March 05, 2012, 02:52:14 AM
Quote from: suzyj on March 04, 2012, 12:23:19 PM
Is that the stock header?  It looks gorgeous.

It's a good thing you're not in Sydney, otherwise I might have to do something awful to your bike just before concourse.

Standard pipe buddy, just hand and machine polished, it came up better than I ever could have hoped for!!


and Concoure's, ppfft mine is a long way off, lol


RR
Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: RRossi on March 26, 2012, 10:00:17 PM
well its all fixed, just over 2 agonising months of just cleaing any buying bits and the first ride on Sunday

"it was all Worth it"  I am so happy with it, its like a new bike!!

The new parts like sprockets have really made a diffrence,it runs so smother and is a little quicker!

here are some pics:


(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii19/vxssrr01wa/DSC03068.jpg)



(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii19/vxssrr01wa/DSC03076.jpg)



(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii19/vxssrr01wa/DSC03079.jpg)



Hope you like them, it jsut needs a really good polish and its done!!


RR


Title: Re: M1000 Pin-Hole leak in Tank Perth WA- PLease Help!
Post by: Rowdy on March 27, 2012, 11:54:54 AM
Well done. Looks great.