2012 M1100evo.
i need opinions on what steering damper to get. [thumbsup]
http://motowheels.com/i-8558658-scotts-performance-steering-damper-kit-monster-1100.html (http://motowheels.com/i-8558658-scotts-performance-steering-damper-kit-monster-1100.html)
oooph, i know those are popular, but they are just not for me. especially looks-wise. I hear they are quite popular with the MX folks, but none of my dirtbikes ever had anything that fancy.
I've got Ohlins dampers on all of mine. Purse-snatcher on two (longways), under triple on one (sideways) and in normal SBK position on the SBK obviously (sideways). if you want to follow after race-technology, they are all using the damper-rod tech still. The desmosedici uses a purse-snatcher type mount (longways), the Factory 1198RS and the Panigale 1199 use the sideways mount. Nobody is using the rotory dampers at the top level, and for whatever reason Ohlins/DP discontinued that style damper and removed it from the parts catalog.
^ all true but if were honest about how we ride our monsters very few people need the top most level of adjustability.
the scotts is a high end and very capable damper. I like how compact it is and how protected it would be in even a very hard wreck. the purse snatcher is awesome but it is heavily exposed, the SBK is mount is better but its pretty bulky with a similar feel.
Quote from: xcaptainxbloodx on April 23, 2012, 08:00:26 PM
^ all true but if were honest about how we ride our monsters very few people need the top most level of adjustability.
the scotts is a high end and very capable damper. I like how compact it is and how protected it would be in even a very hard wreck. the purse snatcher is awesome but it is heavily exposed, the SBK is mount is better but its pretty bulky with a similar feel.
??? The SBK mount for the Monster is no bigger than a scotts - heck, mine is under the lower triple via the Motowheels kit (Ducati Performance used to offer a similar kit)
The Scott's mounts between the risers and under the bars, SBK style mounts above the bars, Scott's is just a bit bigger then the palm of my hand, SBK is the length of my hand...
Not like it's a big deal either way, it's just personal taste. I was mostly just mentioning that you dont need a world class racing damper for an air cooled naked street bike, pretty much anything will get the job done.
Its not about world-class-racing versus monster-street-riding, a tank slapper generating X amount of force could occur in either situation (and more frequently on the street where the suspension is all sorts of wrong for somebody's weight - coupled with some geometry setups - see H-D death wobbles, for an example)
Quote from: j v on April 24, 2012, 07:49:54 AM
Its not about world-class-racing versus monster-street-riding, a tank slapper generating X amount of force could occur in either situation (and more frequently on the street where the suspension is all sorts of wrong for somebody's weight - coupled with some geometry setups - see H-D death wobbles, for an example)
If I don't want to change the bar risers (aka Scott's), what model/brand will work with the 1100 Evo?
bitubo, for one.
Quote from: j v on April 24, 2012, 08:21:11 AM
bitubo, for one.
I'm actually using the shorter ('09-'11) bar risers on my otherwise stock 2012 1100 Evo. I went on Bellisimoto and solomotorparts and they each has the damper listed as fitting the '09-'11. So I'm not 100% sure if that applies to me or not. Any help would be appreciated.
Sounds like it would fit to me, worst case scenario you shim it into place with some spacers. You can even get black aluminum spacers in various sizes from McMaster-Carr at ridiculously cheap prices.
Quote from: cayman s on April 24, 2012, 05:45:20 AM
http://desmotimes.com/product913.htm (http://desmotimes.com/product913.htm)
I have the same setup on my m750. Ohlins. Where can I get the clams for the 1100evo?? Looks like the frame is thicker... I'll put an ohlins and call it a day... That damper on my m750 never disappointed me... Please let me know where to find the clams .. ThX
I picked up an Matris M4R for my 1997 M900, Mounts under the tank/triple left to right.
Hi, I would like to get a Bitubo or Hyperpro steering damper for M1100 Evo, but on their catalogues I can't find the EVO versions, just 696 or 1100 (S). Did anyone tried to put one of those dampers on 1100 EVO or any other damper?
If you guys are interested, I've got a new BiTubo damper for your 696/796/1100 Monsters. Complete with hardware.
Let me know if interested.
Quote from: junior varsity on April 23, 2012, 12:44:27 PM
if you want to follow after race-technology, they are all using the damper-rod tech still. Nobody is using the rotory dampers at the top level,
Not true. Have a look at GPR's website (also a rotary style damper). Lots of top-level road racers use their rotary dampers. Many of the guys I race with use Scotts or GPR as well, and while it's just club racing, it's way above and beyond what a street bike will ever see (forces may be the same, but the damper works a lot more often in racing than street riding). Rotary dampers work just as well as the rod type.
Looks is another issue, but that's personal. I had a GPR on my 848 and loved it. The side-mount rod-style dampers are as ugly as it gets.
I think I still stand by what I said - I can't find any instances of a factory team or regular championship contender using a rotary style damper. For example, factory Ducati and factory Yamaha teams all use Ohlins rod-type dampers in national circuits. Ohlins made a rotary type damper, and it was discontinued because it wasn't being picked up by race teams and had issues with it breaking in hard lock-to-lock headshake situations. I didn't see anyone using them who was regularly on the podium in CMRA either.
All big name riders. Who cares what Ohlins did? Rod style dampers are their thing, and they make good ones. A lot of riders or their teams are sponsored by Ohlins, so of course they run Ohlins dampers...whatever style they make.
http://www.gprstabilizer.com/pic_573_john_mcguinness_bsb_2 (http://www.gprstabilizer.com/pic_573_john_mcguinness_bsb_2)
http://www.gprstabilizer.com/pic_576_lascorz_at_miller_2010 (http://www.gprstabilizer.com/pic_576_lascorz_at_miller_2010)
http://www.gprstabilizer.com/pic_570_fujiwara_at_miller (http://www.gprstabilizer.com/pic_570_fujiwara_at_miller)
http://www.gprstabilizer.com/pic_239_corona_honda_hodgson_3 (http://www.gprstabilizer.com/pic_239_corona_honda_hodgson_3)
http://www.gprstabilizer.com/pic_657_broc_parkes_2011 (http://www.gprstabilizer.com/pic_657_broc_parkes_2011)
fair enough
This is the perfect thread for the info I'm looking for.
I have a 2009 Monster 1100s. I'm removing the bars and riser and going to Woodcraft clipons with a 2.5" rise. I'm also installing a new speedymoto top triple.
So here's my question.....what can I use as a damper. All dampers I've seen for monsters mount on the riser....
Thanks
^ side mount / 'purse snatcher' damper with 1100(S) specific clamps for your fork and frame.
No, I don't know if anyone made that...
I actually just found this.
http://www.storzperf.com/np_duc696dampr.html (http://www.storzperf.com/np_duc696dampr.html)
Check that the diameter of both clamps are correct [thumbsup]
Yeah good idea. I would much rather have a damper mounted on top rather then on the side...