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Moto Board => General Monster Forum => Topic started by: Slide Panda on August 15, 2012, 05:22:23 AM

Title: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: Slide Panda on August 15, 2012, 05:22:23 AM
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/ducati-1199-panigale-japan-exhaust/ (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/ducati-1199-panigale-japan-exhaust/)

The new hotness didn't meet japanese noise restrictions. Solution, JB Weld an additional can to the existing exhaust and hang it off the side, stick a bigger plastic clutch over-cover and restrict it to 135hp.

Photo from Asphalandrubber seems a bit photo-shoppy, but they don't usually get it wrong.

(http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/gallery/ducati-1199-panigale-japanese-market-exhaust/ducati-1199-panigale-japan-exhaust-01.jpg)
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: muskrat on August 15, 2012, 05:23:24 AM
 [puke]
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: thought on August 15, 2012, 05:52:00 AM
Another image of it:

(http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/ducati-1199-panigale-versione-giapponese/Ducati1199PanigaleGiappone6.jpg)
(http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/ducati-1199-panigale-versione-giapponese/Ducati1199PanigaleGiappone7.jpg)
(http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/ducati-1199-panigale-versione-giapponese/Ducati1199PanigaleGiappone1.jpg)

Yeah... I dont know why they had to change the clutch cover... but I'm guessing that you'll be able to pretty easily revert it back to the correct looks barring that.  If not I cant see pani's really selling in the jpn market at all.
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: ducpainter on August 15, 2012, 05:56:36 AM
The affluent Japanese clamor for anything exotic.

I don't see why the Panigale would be any different.
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: Slide Panda on August 15, 2012, 06:04:35 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on August 15, 2012, 05:56:36 AM
The affluent Japanese clamor for anything exotic.

They will just clamor for the Termi kit as well.

Looks like that clutch cover (and then some) just bolts over and would be easy to remove
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: jaxduc on August 15, 2012, 10:36:15 AM
is this for real?
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: zooom on August 15, 2012, 10:36:59 AM
Quote from: jaxduc on August 15, 2012, 10:36:15 AM
is this for real?

yup!
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: SDRider on August 15, 2012, 12:14:22 PM
Woof!  That's awful.  [thumbsdown]

Any why restrict it to 135hp?  Might as well buy an 848.
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: Raux on August 15, 2012, 12:52:24 PM
or just wait for the 849
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: Slide Panda on August 15, 2012, 12:55:52 PM
Quote from: Raux on August 15, 2012, 12:52:24 PM
or just wait for the 849

What if that's too loud too?  ;D
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: supperduc on August 15, 2012, 01:40:28 PM
Total BS. Japan's Zero Engineering custom built bikes are much louder.
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: Chucko9-696 on August 15, 2012, 07:30:22 PM
 [puke]
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: MadDuck on August 15, 2012, 10:39:15 PM
Easy solution.  Don't officially sell them there.  The black market will take off like crazy.   [evil] [evil]
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: Raux on August 16, 2012, 12:15:36 AM
actually I'm sure the Termi kits and dry clutch conversion kits will sell like hot cakes
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: NorDog on August 16, 2012, 08:46:13 AM
Quote from: supperduc on August 15, 2012, 01:40:28 PM
Total BS. Japan's Zero Engineering custom built bikes are much louder.

I think that's apples and oranges.  Zero Eng does make [EDIT: does NOT make] production motorcycles (unless I missed a press release or two along the way).  Selling a custom bike based on a 50 year old HD flathead is bound to be in a different category.
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: ducatiz on August 16, 2012, 09:09:27 AM
It's not on the website

http://www.ducati.co.jp/bikes/superbike/1199_panigale_s_tricolore/index.do (http://www.ducati.co.jp/bikes/superbike/1199_panigale_s_tricolore/index.do)
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: supperduc on August 16, 2012, 06:18:38 PM
Quote from: NorDog on August 16, 2012, 08:46:13 AM
I think that's apples and oranges.  

Well...it's more like apples and pineapples. Regardless, I still think it's BS that custom built bikes can get away with sheet like that.

Anyhow, I don't live in Japan and certainly can't afford a Pani so ;D
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: jvax on August 17, 2012, 07:10:03 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on August 16, 2012, 09:09:27 AM
It's not on the website

http://www.ducati.co.jp/bikes/superbike/1199_panigale_s_tricolore/index.do (http://www.ducati.co.jp/bikes/superbike/1199_panigale_s_tricolore/index.do)

The right-most tab under the bike that says "日本仕様" (i.e. Japanese Specification) has a few words, but not pics yet.

Otherwise, you can find a lot more on the official Ducati Japan blog site:

http://sbk.startducati.jp/?p=94 (http://sbk.startducati.jp/?p=94)

And here is that blog entry translated by Google.  Might not make much sense here and there, but it'll give you the gist.

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsbk.startducati.jp%2F%3Fp%3D94&act=url (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsbk.startducati.jp%2F%3Fp%3D94&act=url)


Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: ducatiz on August 18, 2012, 05:18:41 AM
Good thing they changed the name of the low power version to the "Panigare" so i wont be tricked into buying one.
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: Slim1899 on August 18, 2012, 11:26:24 PM
So you can buy used panties out of vending machines but not a gorgeous Italian Motorcycle unless it's been neutered?!?!?!?  Super Gay
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: jaxduc on August 19, 2012, 08:17:11 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on August 18, 2012, 05:18:41 AM
"Panigare"
Is this Ducatis way of making fun of the Japs for how they can't pronounce the "L" in Panigale?
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: jerryz on August 19, 2012, 09:22:58 AM
all New bikes in japan have a max speed limiter fitted too 112mph , many locals disconnect them
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: mitt on August 20, 2012, 06:51:35 AM
I am not surprised.  After riding with a 1199 in person, I was shocked it passed the US dB requirements.

mitt
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: stopintime on August 31, 2012, 12:52:45 PM
The typical track day noise check isn't very similar to a road db test (AFAIK)

All the Panigales at our DOC track days fail the 102max stationary test, but can just about sneak through by holding the clutch and lowering the kick stand. I suspect that the low exhaust outlet doesn't exactly help. My impression is that they don't stick out as particularly noisy when you hear them go.

Poor Jap customers getting a 135hp bike. That can't be good for sales :-\
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: Slide Panda on August 31, 2012, 12:56:12 PM
There was one at the track a week or two back. It really wasn't loud at all.. or if it was it's not such an obnoxious loud. There was a gixer that made me grit my teeth.. that rheeeeeeee noise.
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: ducatiz on August 31, 2012, 02:41:54 PM
Quote from: Slide Panda on August 31, 2012, 12:56:12 PM
There was one at the track a week or two back. It really wasn't loud at all.. or if it was it's not such an obnoxious loud. There was a gixer that made me grit my teeth.. that rheeeeeeee noise.

The Vaccum Cleaner noise. 
Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: IdZer0 on September 02, 2012, 02:23:57 AM
It seems buying the Termis isn't the solution either:
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Title: Re: D'oh! 1199 Too loud for Japan. Canned, Nutted and covered up
Post by: Slide Panda on September 05, 2012, 07:23:28 AM
Apparently it's worse:

"Featuring a single right-hand-side-mounted exhaust that taps into the under-slung units we are more familiar with, the Japanese-spec Ducati 1199 Panigale also features an enlarged plastic clutch cover, and a re-worked engine map (the S model also features the base model’s wheels). "
- Full article at AsphaultAndRubber