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Title: wreck help
Post by: take risks on August 21, 2012, 11:41:33 AM
So I went down Friday the 17th. Full gear and thank goodness. I still managed to lose a significant portion of my index finger. As that heals I am addreessing my bike repair. The biggest concern is the rock I took to the engine.

Can anyone give me a clue about what I am in for?
These are some pics of the engine case. I drove it for almost 2 hours after the incident.
It may be leaking oil very very slowly. If you touch it, you'll get oil on your finger, but no stains on the ground.
Oil is about half full in the sight glass after sitting for 2 days.
Also the fork seals were almost at the bottom of the fork.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7116/7832753884_4681a79a6d.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7106/7832754678_eabd01207e.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8442/7832755270_4997c9bbb9.jpg)

Thank you.
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: Dirty Duc on August 21, 2012, 12:11:28 PM
One of these
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ducati-alternator-cover-puller-749-999-monster-1098-748-/260422256251?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3ca260467b (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ducati-alternator-cover-puller-749-999-monster-1098-748-/260422256251?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3ca260467b)
and one of these
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ducati-Monster-M620-Alternator-Engine-Cover-/320749915902?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4aae2f4efe (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ducati-Monster-M620-Alternator-Engine-Cover-/320749915902?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4aae2f4efe)
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: Slide Panda on August 21, 2012, 12:18:59 PM
Quote from: take risks on August 21, 2012, 11:41:33 AM
So I went down Friday the 17th. Full gear and thank goodness. I still managed to lose a significant portion of my index finger. As that heals I am addreessing my bike repair. The biggest concern is the rock I took to the engine.

Can anyone give me a clue about what I am in for?
These are some pics of the engine case. I drove it for almost 2 hours after the incident.
It may be leaking oil very very slowly. If you touch it, you'll get oil on your finger, but no stains on the ground.
Oil is about half full in the sight glass after sitting for 2 days.
Also the fork seals were almost at the bottom of the fork.


Thank you.

The oil seals on the forks are still in place - or they would have bled out all the oil on the spot. What you're probably seeing is the dust seals. They are the outer most and just press fit. The oil seal is a bit further in, and retained by a spring clip.

Check the dust seals for damage. If there's none, ensure everything is clean in the cavity where they sit. If that's all clean, work them up the slider and press them back into place.

As noted, you'll need a new generator cover - definitely got a leak there.

heal quickly.
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: MikeZ on August 21, 2012, 12:21:37 PM
You rode for 2 hours after losing part of your finger?

Glad you weren't hurt worse and the bike didn't come out to back either

I had a crack in that same engine cover and found a replacement on fleebay.  
I'm not that mechanical and I managed to replace it myself.
Wasn't that difficult at all except keeping the gasket in place while putting it all back together.  I was told it's easier to use a gasket then use the gasket glue (or whatever you want to call the gasket material that comes in a tube like caulk) so that's the route I went and it worked out well.  No leaks in 2 years since I put it all back together.
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: take risks on August 21, 2012, 12:59:33 PM
@Dirty Duc
Thank you for your help. The link to the remover illustrates your genius.

@Slide Panda
Perfect. I will check that out, great thoughts. You are awesome.

@MikeZ
Yes, I rode an hour to the volunteer fire station where they didnt do much (Ice pack and 4x4). Then forty minutes to the hospital, and they helped a lot. For some reason they did not reattach the tip. Infact my buddy pulled it out of the glove as I was discharged. I threw it away. Then rode 30 minutes to my buddies house. So I guess it was over 2 hours at speed.
ATGATT. It should have been a lot worse.  

The oxycodone is definitely impacting my thought process.
Cheers to everyone.
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: MoltoVeloce on August 21, 2012, 01:35:35 PM
 :o

wow that sucks man. I am glad you are sorta ok.

They probably didn't reattach it because they couldn't find it if it was still in your glove after you were discharged.

Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: take risks on August 21, 2012, 02:24:28 PM
It went something like this except I came out from shade and got hit by sun and lost the road.
Good times.

Kid crashes BMW into rocks (2012) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZVrnd9V7sk&feature=player_embedded#)
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: glbrto on August 21, 2012, 02:34:51 PM
Glad to hear you could at least walk away from that.   :-\
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: kopfjäger on August 21, 2012, 03:16:52 PM
Quote from: take risks on August 21, 2012, 02:24:28 PM
It went something like this except I came out from shade and got hit by sun and lost the road.
Good times.

Kid crashes BMW into rocks (2012) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZVrnd9V7sk&feature=player_embedded#)

[roll] [bang]
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: justinrhenry on August 21, 2012, 03:42:44 PM
Quote from: take risks on August 21, 2012, 02:24:28 PM
It went something like this except I came out from shade and got hit by sun and lost the road.
Good times.


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: Greg on August 21, 2012, 03:45:50 PM
Quote from: kopfjäger on August 21, 2012, 03:16:52 PM
[roll] [bang]

Could see that one coming from the way just from his driving technique.
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: 1KDS on August 21, 2012, 03:48:25 PM
Quote from: take risks on August 21, 2012, 02:24:28 PM
It went something like this except I came out from shade and got hit by sun and lost the road.
Good times.

Hopefully that was a closed road (i'm sure it's not) or he could have easily killed someone else, complete disregard for the double yellow and total lack of skill.
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: gOoIe B on August 21, 2012, 04:37:33 PM
Quote from: 1KDS on August 21, 2012, 03:48:25 PM
Hopefully that was a closed road (i'm sure it's not) or he could have easily killed someone else, complete disregard for the double yellow and total lack of skill.

^^^ Thats the big difference here.  It's bastards like this that are always on my mind when I want to have fun on a twisty backroad, because I've already had so many damn close head-on encounters with these blatantly lazy sloppy asses coming through a curve.  I absolutely hate it, and I hope I don't end up biting the dust like that, cuz these irresponsible make the beast with two backss aren't worth it. 

OP's incident was at least an honest accident.  And on that note, perhaps a new helmet visor is in order, if he decides to continue riding, of course.  Don't know all the details of course, but visors make a big difference.
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: Dirty Duc on August 21, 2012, 05:23:32 PM
You might want to get a snazzy "hole cover" to hide the blemish, but it looks like yours is still intact.
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: 1KDS on August 21, 2012, 05:24:50 PM
Quote from: gOoIe B on August 21, 2012, 04:37:33 PM
OP's incident was at least an honest accident.  And on that note, perhaps a new helmet visor is in order, if he decides to continue riding, of course.  Don't know all the details of course, but visors make a big difference.

For sure, no offense OP, I was only commenting on that kid in the beemer.
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: Barney on August 22, 2012, 06:46:16 AM
i dont understand exactly what happened in that vid...aside from the part where the kids driving like a moron - looks like maybe he put his passenger side wheel off the road and couldn't get it back up before the turn? 

anyway, glad things didn't turn out any worse and I hope you make a quick recovery.  get back on the bike too  [Dolph]
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: sgollapalle on August 22, 2012, 10:30:13 AM
Glad you are ok man! Feel better!

The kid in the vid.. Apart from the sloppy driver he is, it looks like he had the steering wheel turned, but the car kept going straight... May be other steering column damage was involved as well...
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: Slide Panda on August 22, 2012, 11:36:49 AM
Getting blinded by the sun sucks... years back I almost ran into a freaking 12 yard dumpster in my old ass Subaru due to glare. It was Sunset out west (denver) and even creeping along at 15 mph or so on a side street I couldn't see the freaking thing until I was in it's shadow - which was way to close!

NP on the help man. It's easy to misinterpret what we are seeing initially when one is hurt/tired/frustrated. And a lot of the time folks think the dust seals are the oil seals - I did at first. Common mistake.
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: take risks on August 30, 2012, 09:04:39 PM
Back on topic.

Alternator cover.
What is under it? Should I drain the oil first?
Also it has not leaked this whole week, is it because when the bike runs its full of oil that is under pressure?

Handle bars.
Anyone know which Renthal bars are similar to stock?
It is a little hard to measure whens its bent.
http://www.renthal.com/File/apps1.asp?tabtype=5&productid=0&appid=ROAD&zone=&biketype=&manufacturer=&model=&bikedate= (http://www.renthal.com/File/apps1.asp?tabtype=5&productid=0&appid=ROAD&zone=&biketype=&manufacturer=&model=&bikedate=)
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: MikeZ on August 31, 2012, 03:51:16 AM
Yes drain the oil

Not sure on the bars but I'm sure someone will answer soon enough
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: Slide Panda on August 31, 2012, 07:20:08 AM
The alternator is under the alternator cover  ;D Also your fly wheel.

Drain before pulling it, or you'll be draining it all over the place when you do. It's probably not leaked as the oil has drained down into the sump, below the level of your hole. I'd expect it to start leaking again if you fired the engine. When the bike is running, you can see oil splashing onto the timing mark sight glass at the top of that case. So yeah the oil's moving around. It's probably not under pressure in the section where your damage is, as it's probably a cavity that leads to the sump area. But there's definitely pressurized oil in that area for the bearings supporting the crank behind the alternator/flywheel.

Bars... got nothing for you there.
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: take risks on September 30, 2012, 08:01:44 PM
A super secret squirrel helped replace the cover as I did not have that special tool to remove the case.

Thanks for your help guys.
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: Detroit117 on October 01, 2012, 12:59:23 AM
Quote from: take risks on August 21, 2012, 02:24:28 PM
Kid crashes BMW into rocks (2012) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZVrnd9V7sk&feature=player_embedded#)

Quote from: shift1100 on August 22, 2012, 06:46:16 AM
i dont understand exactly what happened in that vid...aside from the part where the kids driving like a moron - looks like maybe he put his passenger side wheel off the road and couldn't get it back up before the turn?  

Quote from: sgollapalle on August 22, 2012, 10:30:13 AM
The kid in the vid.. Apart from the sloppy driver he is, it looks like he had the steering wheel turned, but the car kept going straight... May be other steering column damage was involved as well...

Saw that coming. The driver said that a "misjudgment of the road caused the accident"  [laugh]. The car comes over a decent sized hill right be for the turn. That causes the front end to go light and front wheels lose traction. That's why nothing happened when he turned the wheel.

OP - Luck with healing up and getting your bike back on the road.
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: Raux on October 01, 2012, 05:47:38 AM
Quote from: take risks on August 21, 2012, 02:24:28 PM
It went something like this except I came out from shade and got hit by sun and lost the road.
Good times.

Kid crashes BMW into rocks (2012) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZVrnd9V7sk&feature=player_embedded#)

everytime I watch this I not only think he was an idiot, but the person who taught him to drive was too.
He's using the steering wheel to hold his upper body in position, thereby any force on his body always turns the wheel, which is exactly why he crashed.
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: freeclimbmtb on October 01, 2012, 09:22:06 AM
Quote from: Raux on October 01, 2012, 05:47:38 AM
everytime I watch this I not only think he was an idiot, but the person who taught him to drive was too.
He's using the steering wheel to hold his upper body in position, thereby any force on his body always turns the wheel, which is exactly why he crashed.


+1  [thumbsup]

But I think Detroit is right, the front end got light over that last hill so he just didnt have enough weight on the front wheels to keep him on the pavement.

Also hes retarded.
Title: Re: wreck help
Post by: Raux on October 01, 2012, 10:56:12 AM
i've just rewatched it about 5 times. in fact I think the front was sliding when he hit the bottom, that's when he jerked it to the right. then when trying to correct, the crest lifted the front and yes... off the road...