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Title: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 10, 2015, 03:10:44 PM
Ravens/Patriots are getting after it.  [popcorn]
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Grampa on January 10, 2015, 04:07:16 PM
Tiz a good one so far.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: LMT on January 10, 2015, 04:21:03 PM
Tied up on a great play.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 10, 2015, 04:26:42 PM
Former Dolphins coach Don Shula took a shot at Bill Belichick in an interview with the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, calling the Patriots coach “Beli-cheat.”
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: red baron on January 10, 2015, 04:30:17 PM
GO PATS GO

BAM!!! [thumbsup]
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: lazylightnin717 on January 10, 2015, 05:29:48 PM
Can't believe Ravens blew it
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 10, 2015, 05:30:57 PM
Quote from: lazylightnin717 on January 10, 2015, 05:29:48 PM
Can't believe Ravens blew it

They didn't, they just got beat by Tommy.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on January 10, 2015, 05:39:13 PM
Quote from: kopfjäger on January 10, 2015, 05:30:57 PM
They didn't, they just got beat by Tommy.
That they did.

One of the best games I've ever seen...regardless of who won.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 10, 2015, 05:44:22 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on January 10, 2015, 05:39:13 PM
That they did.

One of the best games I've ever seen...regardless of who won.

He surpassed Montana for most TD's in playoff games, [bow_down] and they're the first team ever to come back from two separate 14 point deficits.  [clap]
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: red baron on January 10, 2015, 05:45:42 PM
Quote from: lazylightnin717 on January 10, 2015, 05:29:48 PM
Can't believe Ravens blew it

While I didn't like it, using that timeout at the last minute was pretty smart, almost worked out.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on January 10, 2015, 05:48:02 PM
Baltimore outplayed them...hands down.

The Pats had no pass rush, and couldn't stop the run and the still won.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 10, 2015, 07:30:14 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on January 10, 2015, 05:48:02 PM
Baltimore outplayed them...hands down.

The Pats had no pass rush, and couldn't stop the run and the still won.

I don't buy it. Had they, they would have won the game. You have to play till the fat pregnant dog hums.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: LMT on January 10, 2015, 08:06:11 PM
Wow! How about the Seahawks.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 10, 2015, 08:07:48 PM
Quote from: LMT on January 10, 2015, 08:06:11 PM
Wow! How about the Seahawks.

They're on a roll now.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: red baron on January 10, 2015, 10:30:40 PM
Quote from: LMT on January 10, 2015, 08:06:11 PM
Wow! How about the Seahawks.

It's Pete.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 11, 2015, 10:10:09 AM
Game On!!!!!!  [popcorn]
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 11, 2015, 10:56:29 AM
Dallas ain't make the beast with two backsing around
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Grampa on January 11, 2015, 01:12:14 PM
Suvk it Jerry. :-*
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 11, 2015, 01:12:29 PM
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7581/16254648081_3ee1ce8c01.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on January 11, 2015, 03:54:17 PM
Forget those other teams-just a massive competition to see who gets to be second to the Patriots.


Go Pats!
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 11, 2015, 04:49:55 PM
It's ok Gomer you can play golf with your brother, he's not working either.  :D
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on January 11, 2015, 06:41:22 PM
I never realized Harbaugh was a baby...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/12150444/2014-15-nfl-playoffs-league-says-new-england-patriots-substitutions-vs-baltimore-ravens-legal (http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/12150444/2014-15-nfl-playoffs-league-says-new-england-patriots-substitutions-vs-baltimore-ravens-legal)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 11, 2015, 06:43:42 PM
Yeah he's been whining about that since he called a timeout for an explanation.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Ducatamount on January 11, 2015, 06:55:36 PM
Harbaugh got schooled by the Master.

Go Pats!
Brady... youGO girl!  [laugh]
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 11, 2015, 07:02:01 PM
Quote from: Ducatamount on January 11, 2015, 06:55:36 PM
Harbaugh got schooled by the Master.

Go Pats!
Brady... youGO girl!  [laugh]

Jimmy Johnson said today, he doesn't know what the problem is, that he used run that play in HS.  :D
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Triple J on January 11, 2015, 08:36:25 PM
You would think Harbaugh would have figured out by now that offensive formations are usually about deception.  [roll]
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: duccarlos on January 12, 2015, 11:41:37 AM
Happy Denver lost.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: red baron on January 18, 2015, 07:44:09 AM
Bring the pain today Pats. [evil]
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Grampa on January 18, 2015, 11:38:08 AM
Go discount double check
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on January 18, 2015, 11:48:11 AM
I think it's time to watch the Pack get beat.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: LMT on January 18, 2015, 12:14:38 PM
Go Seahawks!
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Grampa on January 18, 2015, 12:19:54 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on January 18, 2015, 11:48:11 AM
I think it's time to watch the Pack get beat.

Save that for the real big game.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Grampa on January 18, 2015, 01:07:25 PM
I think the seahawks plan is for Rodgers to spend so much time out on the field that he gets tired.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: lazylightnin717 on January 18, 2015, 01:40:19 PM
Quote from: Grampa on January 18, 2015, 01:07:25 PM
I think the seahawks plan is for Rodgers to spend so much time out on the field that he gets tired.

[laugh]
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on January 18, 2015, 01:47:42 PM
Quote from: Grampa on January 18, 2015, 01:07:25 PM
I think the seahawks plan is for Rodgers to spend so much time out on the field that he gets tired.
I think it's Tampa Bay dressed up as the Seahawks.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 18, 2015, 03:18:18 PM
 [clap] [popcorn]
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Grampa on January 18, 2015, 03:32:59 PM
Awesome game
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: LMT on January 18, 2015, 03:33:05 PM
Quote from: kopfjäger on January 18, 2015, 03:18:18 PM
[clap] [popcorn]

Way to go Hawks! Back to the Super Bowl!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: red baron on January 18, 2015, 03:36:30 PM
What a last drive. Great football indeed.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Grampa on January 18, 2015, 03:44:45 PM
Go horsies
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: lazylightnin717 on January 18, 2015, 03:53:43 PM
I'm not laughing anymore.

That was crazy
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: hbliam on January 18, 2015, 04:00:00 PM
Great game. Carroll is still a douchebag.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: spolic on January 18, 2015, 04:27:19 PM
Quote from: hbliam on January 18, 2015, 04:00:00 PM
Great game. Carroll is still a douchebag.

You mean winning douchbag.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: stonemaster on January 18, 2015, 04:36:02 PM
Quote from: spolic on January 18, 2015, 04:27:19 PM
You mean winning douchbag.
yes thats why it sux even worse,
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 18, 2015, 05:56:47 PM
Patriots are methodical
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Triple J on January 18, 2015, 06:17:41 PM
How did the Colts get to the AFC game again? WTF. Whoopin!




Whatever...SEAHAWKS!!!  ;D
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 18, 2015, 06:33:41 PM
Quote from: Triple J on January 18, 2015, 06:17:41 PM
How did the Colts get to the AFC game again? WTF.
Whatever...SEAHAWKS!!!  ;D

Lucks 2014 stats   TDS 40
                           INT 16
                           YDS 4,761
                           RTG 96.5

Russell Wilson.       TDS 20
                             INT 7
                             YDS 3,475
                             RTG 90
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Triple J on January 18, 2015, 06:35:29 PM
Well, they have a QB. Time to start building a defense. Soon to be 45-7
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: red baron on January 18, 2015, 07:01:14 PM
Quote from: Grampa on January 18, 2015, 03:44:45 PM
Go horsies


How you like that cookie?
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Grampa on January 18, 2015, 07:09:25 PM
Boooooooo
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: stonemaster on January 18, 2015, 07:35:41 PM
oh well I hate both teams, maybe they'll be some hockey on
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Ducatamount on January 19, 2015, 04:35:59 AM
Has Carroll's douchbaggery been discussed?
It has?
Well it can't be over-stated.  [laugh]
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on January 19, 2015, 06:12:56 AM
We lost 45-7 because...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000460728/article/nfl-looking-into-pats-possible-use-of-deflated-balls (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000460728/article/nfl-looking-into-pats-possible-use-of-deflated-balls)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: duccarlos on January 19, 2015, 07:59:35 AM
I hate the Colts for forcing me to pick between the Pats or the Hawks.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: techno on January 21, 2015, 07:10:23 PM
As someone who lives on the other side of the world from NFL games, can someone explain this?

Assuming the Pats did have under inflated balls for use in the game, how do they manage to keep them for themselves. Doesn't the other team use balls from the same pool when they are on offence? Its only an advantage if you keep it to yourself right? Or does each team use their own supply? I've not picked up on the answer from watching games.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Grampa on January 21, 2015, 07:17:59 PM
Each team supplys their own. Kickers also have specific balls.

Balls are switched out frequently. The colts intercepted one of Brady's passes, and that's how it was discovered.

It's not a new form of gaining an advantage, so I'm confused as to why the refs don't supply the balls, same as in baseball.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Ducatamount on January 22, 2015, 03:46:52 AM
I don't even think Belicheck cares about being fined. They won the game and I read they might be fined $25000. This is nothing for Kraft. Now other coaches will be trying to figure out what he might do next to gain an edge which will divert focus and energy from their normal game plan. He is the master of head games.

I agree about having balls provided by the ref's.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 22, 2015, 06:29:17 AM
Footballs have been 'doctored' forever, nothing to see here, move along.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: duccarlos on January 22, 2015, 07:59:21 AM
This is a lot of discussions about "firm balls". Anyway, I think we all agree that the worst that will happen is that they will get fined. the league can now go back to trying to figure out where else the Pats are cheating.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 22, 2015, 08:09:55 AM
Quote from: duccarlos on January 22, 2015, 07:59:21 AM
This is a lot of discussions about "firm balls". Anyway, I think we all agree that the worst that will happen is that they will get fined. the league can now go back to trying to figure out where else the Pats are cheating.

'If you're not cheating you're not trying, if you get caught you're not trying hard enough'
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on January 22, 2015, 10:02:39 AM
Quote from: kopfjäger on January 22, 2015, 08:09:55 AM
'If you're not cheating you're not trying, if you get caught you're not trying hard enough'

It's not only the Pats... ;)

http://deadspin.com/an-entire-seahawks-scandal-arose-and-died-in-20-minutes-1681121065 (http://deadspin.com/an-entire-seahawks-scandal-arose-and-died-in-20-minutes-1681121065)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Triple J on January 22, 2015, 10:39:48 AM
Legal formation though.

Using under-pressure balls isn't legal (although I doubt it made any difference...that was a beating).

The ball issue is the league's problem. The rule that offenses provide their own game balls, and don't use each others during the game, is absurd and encourages cheating. I can't believe that all of the balls for a game aren't just thrown into a bin together and picked at random.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Grampa on January 22, 2015, 10:42:55 AM
If people only gave this big a shit about the type of peanut butter they purchase.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: duccarlos on January 22, 2015, 10:51:02 AM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12210318/chris-canty-baltimore-ravens-says-new-england-patriots-habitual-line-steppers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12210318/chris-canty-baltimore-ravens-says-new-england-patriots-habitual-line-steppers)

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/b0/b0df6284a86e1c3d6c55668fb3796d276db2ff7105dec439209dcbedf71646ca.jpg (http://www.quickmeme.com/img/b0/b0df6284a86e1c3d6c55668fb3796d276db2ff7105dec439209dcbedf71646ca.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on January 22, 2015, 11:17:30 AM
Quote from: Triple J on January 22, 2015, 10:39:48 AM
Legal formation though.

Using under-pressure balls isn't legal (although I doubt it made any difference...that was a beating).

The ball issue is the league's problem. The rule that offenses provide their own game balls, and don't use each others during the game, is absurd and encourages cheating. I can't believe that all of the balls for a game aren't just thrown into a bin together and picked at random.
Not legal the way I read it. Rule changed in '09...rule 6-1-3c

One player has to be outside the numbers on each side.

I agree about the ball rules...that's just stupid.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Triple J on January 22, 2015, 11:51:36 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on January 22, 2015, 11:17:30 AM
Not legal the way I read it. Rule changed in '09...rule 6-1-3c

One player has to be outside the numbers on each side.

I agree about the ball rules...that's just stupid.

One person was outside of the numbers on each side. The rule doesn't state that only one person can be outside the numbers, just that one must be outside the numbers. Hawks have 4 outside the numbers on the right side. There is no rule against bunching the players outside the number line (apparently there used to be). Legal.

(https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/jyGkhppQuqeZ2g-OXYjSNx0ee6M=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3329436/B79ydkTIQAAcnyL.0.0.jpg)

Per the rulebook: "At least 4 players of the kicking team must be on each side of the kicker. At least three players must be lined up outside each inbounds line, one of whom must be outside the yard-line number."
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on January 22, 2015, 03:27:02 PM
I guess 'outside' leaves room for perspective J. ;D
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Desert Dust on January 22, 2015, 03:44:57 PM
Sean Peyton lost an entire season over bounty-gate. I'm not a Pats fan, but I HAD a great deal of respect for Bellicek and Brady. Now I am losing that respect. I'd like to see Billy boy serve a suspension of 8 regular season games and the Super Bowl.

He's already been caught cheating twice. How many times were there when he cheated but didn't get caught?  ???
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Triple J on January 22, 2015, 04:29:47 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on January 22, 2015, 03:27:02 PM
I guess 'outside' leaves room for perspective J. ;D

Maybe...doesn't matter though. They didn't get the on-sides kick because of the formation, they got it because the Packers guy went for the ball instead of blocking per his assignment. Whatever...take a seat Rodgers!  ;D

Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on January 22, 2015, 04:43:20 PM
Quote from: Triple J on January 22, 2015, 04:29:47 PM
<snip> they got it because the Packers guy went for the ball instead of blocking per his assignment.  ;D



Warren Zevon - Excitable Boy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJefPK_UkdM#)


;D

Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 22, 2015, 05:34:41 PM
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/940D1574-05A6-45DB-A73E-759A083AF663.jpg) (http://s201.photobucket.com/user/chiflado/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-01/940D1574-05A6-45DB-A73E-759A083AF663.jpg.html)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: duccarlos on January 23, 2015, 06:54:55 AM
Quote from: kopfjäger on January 22, 2015, 05:34:41 PM
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7503/16343668962_5428e35daa.jpg)

Pic no longer available
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on January 23, 2015, 07:01:32 AM
I'm seeing it Carlos. ???
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Ducatamount on January 23, 2015, 07:13:34 AM
Nope. No pic here.

EDIT: Now seen.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: duccarlos on January 23, 2015, 07:16:37 AM
I posted the URL on the browser, but still can't see it. Might be a permissions on Flicker.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on January 23, 2015, 07:18:31 AM
If I right click on the pic and 'copy image location and then 'pasteandgo' in FF it goes to the pic.

Dunno other than kopf is getting pissed at flickr. ;D
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on January 23, 2015, 07:23:08 AM
How about this?

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7537/15728219103_e64c65bdc1_o.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: duccarlos on January 23, 2015, 07:47:43 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on January 23, 2015, 07:23:08 AM
How about this?

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7537/15728219103_e64c65bdc1_o.jpg)

That one worked.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Ducatamount on January 23, 2015, 08:29:37 AM
Jimmy Kimmel said the ref's became suspicious when Brady folded the ball in thirds and put it in his pocket for later.  [laugh]
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: herm on January 23, 2015, 10:20:42 AM
You would almost think there is no other news worth reporting this last week...

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/01/17/mother-douses-baby-with-fluid-burns-her-alive-on-nj-road/ (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/01/17/mother-douses-baby-with-fluid-burns-her-alive-on-nj-road/)

http://www.boston.com/health/2015/01/20/brigham-and-women-hospital-was-ready-prepared-respond-shooting/wiAwKzOoNzkGNJmJdF90GM/story.html (http://www.boston.com/health/2015/01/20/brigham-and-women-hospital-was-ready-prepared-respond-shooting/wiAwKzOoNzkGNJmJdF90GM/story.html)

http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/01/14/indianapolis-colts-josh-mcnary-charged-rape (http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/01/14/indianapolis-colts-josh-mcnary-charged-rape)

http://time.com/3679079/patriots-under-inflated-balls-deflategate-nfl-scandal/ (http://time.com/3679079/patriots-under-inflated-balls-deflategate-nfl-scandal/)

:P
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: hbliam on January 23, 2015, 07:11:03 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on January 22, 2015, 10:02:39 AM
It's not only the Pats... ;)

http://deadspin.com/an-entire-seahawks-scandal-arose-and-died-in-20-minutes-1681121065 (http://deadspin.com/an-entire-seahawks-scandal-arose-and-died-in-20-minutes-1681121065)

Pete Carroll is a cheater of the highest caliber. I don't give two flips about the deflated ball crap.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 23, 2015, 07:25:16 PM
Everyone 'cheats' one way or another to gain an advantage in almost every form of human competition. Nothing new.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Triple J on January 23, 2015, 09:37:14 PM
Quote from: hbliam on January 23, 2015, 07:11:03 PM
Pete Carroll is a cheater of the highest caliber. I don't give two flips about the deflated ball crap.

How so? I don't see it in the NFL. College, sure. But if you think there is ANY successful big name Div. I school that isn't breaking NCAA rules then you're crazy.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Ducatamount on January 24, 2015, 07:47:46 AM
http://www.goodyear.com/cfmx/web/corporate/media/news/story.cfm?a_id=371 (http://www.goodyear.com/cfmx/web/corporate/media/news/story.cfm?a_id=371)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on January 24, 2015, 07:52:48 AM
Quote from: Ducatamount on January 24, 2015, 07:47:46 AM
http://www.goodyear.com/cfmx/web/corporate/media/news/story.cfm?a_id=371 (http://www.goodyear.com/cfmx/web/corporate/media/news/story.cfm?a_id=371)
I was thinking the same.

If the balls were inflated to 12.5 lbs in a 72 degree equipment room at the 50 degree game temp they'd be 2-4 lbs lower if the same rule of thumb applies to a football.

Quote from: Triple J on January 23, 2015, 09:37:14 PM
How so? I don't see it in the NFL. College, sure. But if you think there is ANY successful big name Div. I school that isn't breaking NCAA rules then you're crazy.
...and if you think any NFL team isn't doing the same...then you are too. :-*
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Ducatamount on January 24, 2015, 07:58:47 AM
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/100145/seahawks-lead-in-ped-bans-under-carroll (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/100145/seahawks-lead-in-ped-bans-under-carroll)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 24, 2015, 09:22:13 AM
Players should be fined for 'Not' using ped's.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: herm on January 24, 2015, 10:42:35 AM
Quote from: Ducatamount on January 24, 2015, 07:47:46 AM
http://www.goodyear.com/cfmx/web/corporate/media/news/story.cfm?a_id=371 (http://www.goodyear.com/cfmx/web/corporate/media/news/story.cfm?a_id=371)

I can attest to this...every fall when it gets cold.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on January 24, 2015, 11:11:25 AM
Quote from: kopfjäger on January 24, 2015, 09:22:13 AM
Players should be fined for 'Not' using ped's.

They are-they get what's called "second string wages".
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 24, 2015, 11:24:02 AM
Quote from: Satellite smithy on January 24, 2015, 11:11:25 AM
They are-they get what's called "second string wages".

[laugh]
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: stonemaster on January 24, 2015, 01:12:11 PM
Quote from: Satellite smithy on January 24, 2015, 11:11:25 AM
They are-they get what's called "second string wages".
I'll take it, what the league minimum these days ??/ of course they're gonna be used (PED) EVEN BY THE SECOND STRING which in todays multiple situational package lineup deal means everyone plays some and ALL jobs are one the line

looked it up base minimum for a rookie is 450,000 and thats just base, no signing bonus or preformance incentives, no wonder kids ,even in high school, are using PEDS, how many opprotunities are some of these guys gonna have in their lifetime to make that much LEGALLY
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Triple J on January 24, 2015, 04:16:07 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on January 24, 2015, 07:52:48 AM

If the balls were inflated to 12.5 lbs in a 72 degree equipment room at the 50 degree game temp they'd be 2-4 lbs lower if the same rule of thumb applies to a football.


Sounds reasonable, except the Colts balls weren't low on pressure. Depends where they were originally tested for pressure though. You'd think they'd all be tested in similar conditions (i.e., outdoor or indoor).
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Triple J on January 24, 2015, 04:24:14 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on January 24, 2015, 07:52:48 AM
...and if you think any NFL team isn't doing the same...then you are too. :-*

Ya, I'm sure you're right.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: red baron on January 24, 2015, 08:00:25 PM
Quote from: Satellite smithy on January 24, 2015, 11:11:25 AM
They are-they get what's called "second string wages".

[laugh] [laugh]
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: stonemaster on January 25, 2015, 03:12:23 AM
Quote from: Triple J on January 24, 2015, 04:16:07 PM
Sounds reasonable, except the Colts balls weren't low on pressure. Depends where they were originally tested for pressure though. You'd think they'd all be tested in similar conditions (i.e., outdoor or indoor).
I dont think the rules specify, I think  thats what Belechek meant by following the letter of the law, He tested inside (and likely to the lowest measurement), the colts tested outside, so the obvious would be he knew the pressure would drop, another example of NFL rules that are unclear and vague
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on January 25, 2015, 04:43:01 AM
Quote from: Triple J on January 24, 2015, 04:16:07 PM
Sounds reasonable, except the Colts balls weren't low on pressure. Depends where they were originally tested for pressure though. You'd think they'd all be tested in similar conditions (i.e., outdoor or indoor).
Also remember the refs signed off on the first ball.

When did the Colts bring the under inflated ball to the refs? Couple hours later? It would take a while for the temperature of the ball and the pressure to drop.

If the rule doesn't specify where the pressure is measured then the Pats followed the rule.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: red baron on January 25, 2015, 06:31:53 AM
Quote from: stonemaster on January 25, 2015, 03:12:23 AM
I dont think the rules specify, I think  thats what Belechek meant by following the letter of the law, He tested inside (and likely to the lowest measurement), the colts tested outside, so the obvious would be he knew the pressure would drop, another example of NFL rules that are unclear and vague


smart navigation of the barriers.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: stonemaster on January 25, 2015, 01:46:30 PM
actually the locker room is where they are done so that explanation doesnt get it, they cheated pure and simple
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on January 25, 2015, 02:40:53 PM
Quote from: stonemaster on January 25, 2015, 01:46:30 PM
actually the locker room is where they are done so that explanation doesnt get it, they cheated pure and simple
What's the temperature in the locker room?
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: stonemaster on January 25, 2015, 03:06:22 PM
here's the best analysis i have found on the subject, from a scientific perspective, quite interesting actually
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ainissa-g-ramirez-phd/deflated-footballs_b_6541824.html?utm_hp_ref=science (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ainissa-g-ramirez-phd/deflated-footballs_b_6541824.html?utm_hp_ref=science)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 25, 2015, 04:48:56 PM
'This is not Nam, there are rules'


http://youtu.be/3vB9U2hx6Qg (http://youtu.be/3vB9U2hx6Qg)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on January 25, 2015, 04:57:19 PM
Quote from: stonemaster on January 25, 2015, 03:06:22 PM
here's the best analysis i have found on the subject, from a scientific perspective, quite interesting actually
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ainissa-g-ramirez-phd/deflated-footballs_b_6541824.html?utm_hp_ref=science (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ainissa-g-ramirez-phd/deflated-footballs_b_6541824.html?utm_hp_ref=science)
Sooo...

Mr. Wizard...what was the pressure of the under inflated balls?
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Triple J on January 25, 2015, 05:02:53 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on January 25, 2015, 04:57:19 PM
Sooo...

Mr. Wizard...what was the pressure of the under inflated balls?

It's been stated that 11 of the 12 balls were at least 2 psi below regulations.

I have no idea what happened, but the reason we're dealing with this is because the NFL's policy on game balls is f'ing stupid. Allowing offenses to supply their own balls is just asking for controversy. Brady is a great QB, regardless of what happened and Belicheck is a great coach...maybe the best of all-time.

Go Hawks though!  ;D

Another good debunking article:
http://www.businessinsider.com/cold-weather-patriots-balls-deflate-2015-1 (http://www.businessinsider.com/cold-weather-patriots-balls-deflate-2015-1)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Ducatamount on January 26, 2015, 04:12:52 AM
As we all know accurate air pressure gauges are difficult to find so maybe that was the problem.  :D
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: herm on January 26, 2015, 07:06:41 PM
Quote from: Triple J on January 25, 2015, 05:02:53 PM
It's been stated that 11 of the 12 balls were at least 2 psi below regulations.

I have no idea what happened, but the reason we're dealing with this is because the NFL's policy on game balls is f'ing stupid. Allowing offenses to supply their own balls is just asking for controversy. Brady is a great QB, regardless of what happened and Belicheck is a great coach...maybe the best of all-time.


a) I agree that allowing each team to provide their own ball is just asking for controversy.

2) I think that the balls in question were 2 psi below the "maximum" allowable......so that would make them 1 psi below the minimum? Right?

Asking for clarity, because it seems like the reporting on this subject is.....inflationary?
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on January 26, 2015, 07:11:33 PM
Quote from: Triple J on January 25, 2015, 05:02:53 PM
It's been stated that 11 of the 12 balls were at least 2 psi below regulations.

I have no idea what happened, but the reason we're dealing with this is because the NFL's policy on game balls is f'ing stupid. Allowing offenses to supply their own balls is just asking for controversy. Brady is a great QB, regardless of what happened and Belicheck is a great coach...maybe the best of all-time.

Go Hawks though!  ;D

Another good debunking article:
http://www.businessinsider.com/cold-weather-patriots-balls-deflate-2015-1 (http://www.businessinsider.com/cold-weather-patriots-balls-deflate-2015-1)

If the rules don't state at what temperature the balls need to be inflated. Put 'em in a 120 degree room, fill 'em, test 'em, wander out like nothing happened.

I can't blame anyone for following the "What Would Smokey Yunick Do" approach. It's how I got tossed from the annual Stirling Engine speed test in college.  [evil]
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: red baron on January 26, 2015, 07:19:56 PM
Good ole Smokey. [thumbsup]


Kinda like lane splitting, it's NOT illegal. [evil]
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Triple J on January 26, 2015, 07:55:13 PM
Quote from: herm on January 26, 2015, 07:06:41 PM

2) I think that the balls in question were 2 psi below the "maximum" allowable......so that would make them 1 psi below the minimum? Right?

I don't know for sure, but that isn't what the article said. It said at least 2 psi below regulations...which would be 10.5 psi or less.

Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: stonemaster on January 26, 2015, 08:05:29 PM
they are now looking at a locker room attendant
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/26/deflategate-locker-room-attendant_n_6549608.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/26/deflategate-locker-room-attendant_n_6549608.html)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on January 26, 2015, 08:15:27 PM
Well of course there'll be a paid off scapegoat.

Probably the same guy who normally pissed clean for the athletes but took up drugs recently.

Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on January 27, 2015, 03:36:25 AM
I wonder if as big a to do will be made out of the super bowl?
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 27, 2015, 06:06:11 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on January 27, 2015, 03:36:25 AM
I wonder if as big a to do will be made out of the super bowl?

Ducati is making a Hyper?
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Grampa on January 27, 2015, 06:08:54 AM
Quote from: stonemaster on January 26, 2015, 08:05:29 PM
they are now looking at a locker room attendant
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/26/deflategate-locker-room-attendant_n_6549608.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/26/deflategate-locker-room-attendant_n_6549608.html)

he was last seen near the grassy knoll with a pump needle.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: duccarlos on January 27, 2015, 07:38:53 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on January 27, 2015, 03:36:25 AM
I wonder if as big a to do will be made out of the super bowl?

What is this "super bowl" you speak of?
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on January 27, 2015, 07:50:12 AM
Quote from: duccarlos on January 27, 2015, 07:38:53 AM
What is this "super bowl" you speak of?

It's one of those fancy new toilets that'll flush a bucket of golf balls. I think Kohler makes it.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: stonemaster on January 27, 2015, 02:42:23 PM
hahaha funny guys, I needed a good laugh today
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: stonemaster on January 27, 2015, 02:47:03 PM
Quote from: Satellite smithy on January 27, 2015, 07:50:12 AM
It's one of those fancy new toilets that'll flush a bucket of golf balls. I think Kohler makes it.
now you gonna explain what a golf ball is  [cheeky]
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Grampa on January 27, 2015, 03:06:14 PM
On a related note....Richard Sherman punched Tiger in the tooof.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Grampa on January 27, 2015, 04:54:28 PM
more soft balls

NSFW

http://biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=52620 (http://biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=52620)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: herm on January 27, 2015, 05:52:54 PM
Quote from: Satellite smithy on January 27, 2015, 07:50:12 AM
It's one of those fancy new toilets that'll flush a bucket of golf balls. I think Kohler makes it.

New toilets are not capable of flushing a pint of piss without clogging, let alone anything solid..........

I swear, I make the beast with two backsing HATE "low flush" technology.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on January 27, 2015, 08:10:09 PM
In positive NFL news one of the Green Bay Packers recently got himself a new dog.

(http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/54bc4af26bb3f77b2bfa7c92/fumble-onside.gif)

(http://new4.fjcdn.com/gifs/Whoops+uh+just+stretching_b1c385_5434151.gif)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Grampa on January 27, 2015, 08:35:37 PM
 [laugh]
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: duccarlos on January 28, 2015, 06:26:58 AM
hey Marshawn, why are you here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP8UoBUm1sY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP8UoBUm1sY)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on January 28, 2015, 06:33:26 AM
I'm here just to read the comments on youtube...
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: duccarlos on January 28, 2015, 06:40:35 AM
You like that?
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on January 28, 2015, 06:43:16 AM
Always amazes me.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: duccarlos on January 28, 2015, 06:47:03 AM
The NFL should not be forcing guys to do interviews. 99% of the players will be happy to stand in front of mics this week.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on January 28, 2015, 07:23:40 AM
I absolutely love it when Marshawn make the beast with two backss with the 'league' in these forced interviews.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: stonemaster on January 28, 2015, 12:41:48 PM
Quote from: Satellite smithy on January 26, 2015, 08:15:27 PM
Well of course there'll be a paid off scapegoat.

Probably the same guy who normally pissed clean for the athletes but took up drugs recently.


speaking scapegoats
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/28/usc-deflategate_n_6562964.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/28/usc-deflategate_n_6562964.html)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Grampa on January 28, 2015, 01:12:26 PM
The lone airsoft gunman theory.....or maybe a terrorist on an air jihad.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: duccarlos on February 02, 2015, 06:32:37 AM
Congrats to the Pats. I told my neighbor they wold win 24-20. I guess I was slightly off.

Petey should be flogged for that call. WTF?
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on February 02, 2015, 06:39:42 AM
Quote from: duccarlos on February 02, 2015, 06:32:37 AM
Congrats to the Pats. I told my neighbor they wold win 24-20. I guess I was slightly off.

Petey should be flogged for that call. WTF?
I think the call represented the respect he has for the Pats and their ability to move the ball down field in a short period of time.

If they had just pounded it in it would have given the Pats the ball with time on the clock.

He was playing 4 downs to kill the clock.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Grampa on February 02, 2015, 07:46:52 AM
Then run slow...just don't throw the ball into a pack-o-pats.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: duccarlos on February 02, 2015, 07:56:55 AM
Quote from: Grampa on February 02, 2015, 07:46:52 AM
Then run slow...just don't throw the ball into a pack-o-pats.

Sactly! You run the ball and force NE to use a timeout.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Triple J on February 02, 2015, 08:53:29 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on February 02, 2015, 06:39:42 AM
I think the call represented the respect he has for the Pats and their ability to move the ball down field in a short period of time.

If they had just pounded it in it would have given the Pats the ball with time on the clock.

He was playing 4 downs to kill the clock.

He admitted he was playing for 3rd and 4th down, when they planned to run.

Still a terrible call. Would have been better to get stopped on a 2nd down run anyway. They overthought it and tried to outsmart the Pats...which is definitely a sign of the respect he had for their offense, as well as defense.

Butler made a hell of a play too. That can't be understated. He really had a great game overall. Even his play on the crazy catch before was fantastic...it was just luck that the receiver caught the ball.

I don't think Brady deserved the MVP. He had a good game, but threw 2 picks. I think Adelmann (sp??) or Butler should have gotten it.

Great game either way. Seahawk injuries were capitalized on by the Pats...good football by them.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on February 02, 2015, 08:59:15 AM
Completely agree...

Brady shouldn't have won MVP.

...and if it wasn't for the pick we'd all be talking about Hearses' catch.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Triple J on February 02, 2015, 09:04:04 AM
...and why Lane left the game in the 1st!  :o  [puke]

Scroll down quick if you don't want to see...



















Ouch!!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11082_10152589950676022_1204418411597550752_n.jpg?oh=27a71958014e1d6acc1afa788dcf9c57&oe=555AF1ED&__gda__=1433337900_672fe05f9f5f4d49cc85a679934bf31d)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: duccarlos on February 02, 2015, 09:06:25 AM
That looks fake.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Triple J on February 02, 2015, 09:11:46 AM
I agree...but it isn't.

Watch the slow motion video at this link (3rd one). He was moving from the right to left quickly, and the photo just caught the worst moment.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/jeremy-lane-victimizes-tom-brady-with-early-int-but-hurt-on-play-235751596.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/jeremy-lane-victimizes-tom-brady-with-early-int-but-hurt-on-play-235751596.html)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on February 02, 2015, 09:14:00 AM
They had his arm wrapped in some sort of compression sleeve when they carted him off like they were trying to immobilize it.

Now I see why.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: duccarlos on February 02, 2015, 09:16:11 AM
I wasn't saying that it was fake, just that it looked fake. The Hawks had a whole bunch of issues with injuries.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Triple J on February 02, 2015, 09:22:15 AM
Interestingly, Lynch actually answered a reporters question after the game when asked if he was surprised he didn't get the ball. He said, "No, it's a team game". Disappointed in the outcome for sure, but not angry at the call.

Seattle has reportedly offered him a huge contract. I really hope he takes it, as he's a good guy, and his coaches/teammates love him. The team really revolves around him. If he sticks around the Hawks will be knocking on the door for the next few years (barring injuries of course).
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Blackout on February 02, 2015, 10:47:40 AM
Damn I broke my left wrist (both radius and ulna) two years ago. That's one painful injury.
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on February 02, 2015, 11:50:47 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/74Fw7Bi.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Desert Dust on February 02, 2015, 08:34:50 PM
 [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] As a Niner fan, I approve of that video. ^^^
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on February 04, 2015, 06:27:25 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on February 02, 2015, 08:59:15 AM
Completely agree...

Brady shouldn't have won MVP.

...and if it wasn't for the pick we'd all be talking about Hearses' catch.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/02/03/patriots-tom-brady-gives-super-bowl-mvp-truck-to-malcolm-butler/ (http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/02/03/patriots-tom-brady-gives-super-bowl-mvp-truck-to-malcolm-butler/)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: red baron on February 04, 2015, 06:38:50 AM
Good for Butler, probably the most notable play of his career.

Brady should got a slap for his play mid game. ;D
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on February 04, 2015, 06:50:16 AM
Quote from: red baron on February 04, 2015, 06:38:50 AM
Good for Butler, probably the most notable play of his career.

Brady should got a slap for his play mid game. ;D
How could it not be...

an undrafted rookie in the Super Bowl and he makes the play to win the game? ;)
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: duccarlos on February 04, 2015, 07:19:45 AM
Wow! He gave the guy a $20K truck. Why couldn't Brady give him one of his Ferraris?
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: ducpainter on February 04, 2015, 07:22:21 AM
Quote from: duccarlos on February 04, 2015, 07:19:45 AM
Wow! He gave the guy a $20K truck. Why couldn't Brady give him one of his Ferraris?
The kid can't afford the maintenance on a Ferrari. ;D

...and when when was the last time a new truck was under 20K...

were you even born? ;D
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: kopfjäger on February 04, 2015, 02:04:51 PM
It was over $40k chump change for Tommy, but a cool gesture. I think the vanity plate on it should read 'PICKED'
Title: Re: NFL Playoffs
Post by: Ducatamount on February 04, 2015, 03:37:34 PM
 [laugh]...or maybe "SB INT"  8)

Boston fans -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feuNeJewzDohttps (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feuNeJewzDohttps)