when you park.....what do you expect to actually do with those pictures if your bike gets knocked over?
I don't see how you could confirm that the car that *was* there was absolutely the one that knocked your bike over.
I'm not sure how tracking them down, noting corresponding damage on their car would even be enough to prove anything if they didn't admit it. I'm curious here. Help me out.
My 1st thought is to make sure that your bike w/ your license # and the cars on either side of you w/ their license #s are all showing in the same picture.
That's all I have for now. Dolph
People do that? ??? Maybe I miss film now..... wouldn't do it if it wasn't so easy. :P
if people do this, they are mental. If your bike gets tipped over and you are not there to see it and literally get some form of settlement there on the spot from the other party then you are never getting anything. You're not there and return to discover that your bike got tipped-you pick it up and ride away ... this is why I will only ride a 695 in the city now, bikes get tipped over, it happens- frequently.
Quote from: someguy on July 16, 2008, 10:05:15 PM
when you park.....what do you expect to actually do with those pictures if your bike gets knocked over?
I don't see how you could confirm that the car that *was* there was absolutely the one that knocked your bike over.
I'm not sure how tracking them down, noting corresponding damage on their car would even be enough to prove anything if they didn't admit it. I'm curious here. Help me out.
Paint transfer can occur. Red car in photo; red paint on your knocked over bike; red car has scratch on it.
But of course the smart thing to do is avoid that situation if at all possible. In oz, we're allowed to park on pavements as long as we don't block the way. I have under cover parking EVERYWHERE I go! [thumbsup]
+1 on the paint issue.
I do the same. When ever i park my bike next to a questionable car, ill take a pic if i have my digital on me, or remember their plate.
Questionable cars list.
1) expensive car with big ass rims or wanna be baller pieces. why? its usually a dumbass kid driving it. Who probably doenst know what the other gears mean other htan D
2) Big ass SUVs. why? do i have to say?
3) retarded broken ass cars with missing bumpers. why? they got that way, for the exact reason im taking the pic.
Try your best not to park near them, but sometimes you have to stop for a min, and htats the only spot. :/
today i parked and saw a ford windstar 2006 van. The lady inside grilled the shit out of me. She looked like she was going to purposely run my bike over in front of me and back up and run it over an piss on it So i took her plate down. Thankfully, my bike was okay. She just had a mean look i guess.
The simple solution is to go ahead and wreck your bike. That way who cares if it gets tipped over, its already all scratched up anyways.
Worst... advice... ever.
Quote from: fwtcc on July 17, 2008, 07:43:06 AM
The simple solution is to go ahead and wreck your bike. That way who cares if it gets tipped over, its already all scratched up anyways.
Worst... advice... ever.
they do say that the first scratch is the worst scratch. i bought my bike with a few scratches, and i added a few more along with the tank dent, and i honestly dont think it would bother me too much if it fell over. yeah i would be pissed if i knew it got hit/bumped/pushed, but the times ive come out and seen the kickstand through the pavement it hasnt bothered me.
Quote from: He Man on July 16, 2008, 11:02:11 PM
+1 on the paint issue.
I do the same. When ever i park my bike next to a questionable car, ill take a pic if i have my digital on me, or remember their plate.
Questionable cars list.
1) expensive car with big ass rims or wanna be baller pieces. why? its usually a dumbass kid driving it. Who probably doenst know what the other gears mean other htan D
2) Big ass SUVs. why? do i have to say?
3) retarded broken ass cars with missing bumpers. why? they got that way, for the exact reason im taking the pic.
Try your best not to park near them, but sometimes you have to stop for a min, and htats the only spot. :/
today i parked and saw a ford windstar 2006 van. The lady inside grilled the shit out of me. She looked like she was going to purposely run my bike over in front of me and back up and run it over an piss on it So i took her plate down. Thankfully, my bike was okay. She just had a mean look i guess.
I got an idea...... don't park next to questionable cars. Or is that just me? Maybe I'm the one being silly. I mean walking a couple more feet instead of carrying a digital camera with me everywhere I go in case I decide to park next to a car of ill repute..... ???
Many years ago... in school.... we has assigned parking... my green honda was smacked by the orange VW parked in the spot next to mine. Paint transfer on both cars. Green on the one, and orange on mine. The lady claimed she didn't do it. The cops said that unless somebody steps forward as a witness, paint transfer is not enough. Obvious in your face proof is not enough. Why? Cause the world is not like CSI. The police have better things to do. However, if I had taken her to civil court, and spent all my money in that route... I could have possibly won. Funny that the officer actually told me to take it to civil court. I am like, it was a fricken hit and run and you don't even want to research it.
Quote from: WannaDucBad on July 17, 2008, 11:53:28 AM
I got an idea...... don't park next to questionable cars. Or is that just me? Maybe I'm the one being silly. I mean walking a couple more feet instead of carrying a digital camera with me everywhere I go in case I decide to park next to a car of ill repute..... ???
I'm 1000% percent behind this. Until I read this post I had NO IDEA people actually do this kind of crap w/their bikes. Do you people also carry shooting rifles around in case you see a bird that might want to shit on your bike? "I better take out that pigeon, he looks like he might shit on my bike"
[laugh]
I've another idea, just get one of these for your bike:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvpK8zuFkO8
Quote from: arai_speed on July 17, 2008, 12:11:11 PM
Do you people also carry shooting rifles around in case you see a bird that might want to shit on your bike? "I better take out that pigeon, he looks like he might shit on my bike"
No but I carry around a "shooting" handgun incase someone want to take a $hit on me...
Quote from: ryandalling on July 17, 2008, 12:07:57 PM
Many years ago... in school.... we has assigned parking... my green honda was smacked by the orange VW parked in the spot next to mine. Paint transfer on both cars. Green on the one, and orange on mine. The lady claimed she didn't do it. The cops said that unless somebody steps forward as a witness, paint transfer is not enough. Obvious in your face proof is not enough. Why? Cause the world is not like CSI. The police have better things to do. However, if I had taken her to civil court, and spent all my money in that route... I could have possibly won. Funny that the officer actually told me to take it to civil court. I am like, it was a fricken hit and run and you don't even want to research it.
Hit and run? come on. I don't want my tax dollars spent on the state investigating your dinged car.
civil court is the right avenue for that scenario. No way to prove to criminal standard what happened because no way the state would or should pay the time for the expert needed to analyze the paint. Without that or a witness there's no obvious and in your face proof of anything.
And if someone tried to sue me in civil court for a door ding I'd tie them up for so long it will cost them so much more in lost work coming to court and paperwork the door could have been resprayed ten times over.
cars get scratched. Life goes on.
To the initial posted question: pictures of the car next to you (at one point in time...not automatically when your bike got knocked down) would do nothing for you except get you a harrasment charge when you go hunting for the person and confront them.
Quote from: Statler on July 17, 2008, 02:43:36 PM
Hit and run? come on. I don't want my tax dollars spent on the state investigating your dinged car.
cars get scratched. Life goes on.
No... I agree with you. My point was that unless somebody actually sees it, or admits to it, then nothing can really be done about it. Life goes on... you live and you learn. Of course as a cocky college kid... I had to pregnant dog and moan up and down the street about it for months. ;D
Seems like the thread is taking the correct route which in my professional opinion is...move on. Unless you see the incident occur or have a witness that did, paint transfer don't mean nada. Also what are the odds you will have any paint trasfer to begin with? There are lots of points on the monster without paint and lots of cars doors have rubber strips to prevent transfer.
Bottom line. Never park your bike where you would worry about it.
If you can track the person down and confront them about it face-to-face, sometimes those people will crack and admit to their fault.
As for me, I don't bother with pictures, I just try and park as securely as possible.
Quote from: fwtcc on July 17, 2008, 07:43:06 AM
The simple solution is to go ahead and wreck your bike. That way who cares if it gets tipped over, its already all scratched up anyways.
Worst... advice... ever.
Sounds like advice that Trogdor would give... right before burninating the VILLLAAAGGES! :)
Well this is the original thread of my 695 getting knocked over, but I was lucky enough to be walking towards it when it happened...
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=6996.0
The more I think about it I recognize that taking pix is probably not going to do anything... unless you wanted to be malicious later [evil]
I was really lucky... Update: Bike's at the dealer, and the appraiser from the insurance co. went there today. Should hear what happens tomorrow.
I try my best not to park near questionable cars, but havent you ever ridden onto a 4 lane 2 way st and on every block is an SUV thats parked 3 feet from the next car? Granted i rather park where i have 7 feet with a questionable car, than 3 feet between 2 Hummers. Most of my stops are no more than 15-30 minutes so I aint got that much of an option. The off st's are all packed bumper to bumper and have no cops patrolling. The main streets all have a squad car on every block and foot patrols.
You pick. (or i can just buy a rat bike, which i really want to get a cheap dual sport to ride in the city)
I used to drive expensive sports cars ,Porsches and BMWs. I had a very hard time going anywhere and parking the car and having it be out of my sight. People liked to key expensive cars. For those who may not know what that means . A person walks along your car with a car key or some key about pocket level and you end up w/ a deep scratch the full length of the car.
Often the person keying your car can do it without anyone noticing them doing it . They just walk past your car with the key down and out of site and and scratch as they walk naturally then palm the key as they walk into the open and keep going.
So the whole side of the car has to be refinished. $$$
I don't drive those kind of cars anymore. I worry about leaving my S4Rs or 1098 R anywhere that I'm not right close. I'm not that accurate w/ a Walther PPk beyond 100 ' but I've got 7 chances.
To keep your bike safe the only answer for me is just don't put it in a risky place.
i went to the movies with my gf yesterday. when we got out i noticed that the car parked next to me had parked right up snug to my car. with no room for me to get in the drivers side. so i was forced to get in the pass side and "Cirqu De Solet" into the drivers seat. and still to this moment i dont know why i did it. but i opened my drivers door as fast and hard as possible and royally make the beast with two backsed that persons car. directly after doing so i regretted it, you know karma and all, and i have felt kinda bad ever since. but not bad enough to have left a note or anything. does that make me a dick?
yes. yes it does.
Oh well.
Quote from: BomberHead on July 18, 2008, 04:42:02 AM
i went to the movies with my gf yesterday. when we got out i noticed that the car parked next to me had parked right up snug to my car. with no room for me to get in the drivers side. so i was forced to get in the pass side and "Cirqu De Solet" into the drivers seat. and still to this moment i dont know why i did it. but i opened my drivers door as fast and hard as possible and royally make the beast with two backsed that persons car. directly after doing so i regretted it, you know karma and all, and i have felt kinda bad ever since. but not bad enough to have left a note or anything. does that make me a dick?
No need to be malicious about it. I do get a bit disgusted by people who can't park normally, though. I've never had anyone so close that I couldn't actually get in the door, though.
And +1 on the poilice not being like CSI.
http://www.youparklikeanasshole.com/
http://iparklikeanidiot.com/
https://www.parkbetter.org/
these sites maybe helpfull....
I would just stay the f!@#$%! away from those as!@#$%e!