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Moto Board => General Monster Forum => Topic started by: koko64 on October 15, 2020, 04:33:19 AM

Title: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: koko64 on October 15, 2020, 04:33:19 AM
https://www.facebook.com/groups/melbourneducatista/permalink/3512767528783928/

Valve springs!
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: ducpainter on October 15, 2020, 04:54:58 AM
First an aluminum non trellis frame, and now this...

heresy!
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: kopfjäger on October 15, 2020, 12:25:52 PM
https://youtu.be/-M99Pv0Kczc
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: kopfjäger on October 16, 2020, 07:46:28 PM
https://youtu.be/40nFfpcrRZM
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: greenmonster on October 17, 2020, 07:57:50 AM
But 60000 km service interval is nice...
Simply a new era.
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: Speeddog on October 17, 2020, 10:27:27 AM
Quote from: greenmonster on October 17, 2020, 07:57:50 AM
But 60000 km never service interval is nice...
Simply a new era.

FIFY

I mean not *you* particularly, but 98% of folks
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: ducpainter on October 17, 2020, 01:31:55 PM
Duhonda...
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: Duck-Stew on October 18, 2020, 08:49:01 PM
It was inevitable.
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: Duck-Stew on October 20, 2020, 08:40:05 PM
Looking a bit ahead here, but wait until Ducati uses Desmodromic to describe some slick feature in their electric motorcycle’s inverter.

Remember: you heard it here, first.  ;D
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: Speeddog on October 20, 2020, 08:56:57 PM
That's only because Turbo Encabulator is taken
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: Duck-Stew on October 21, 2020, 02:57:01 AM
Quote from: Speeddog on October 20, 2020, 08:56:57 PM
That's only because Turbo Encabulator is taken

Best post I’ve read in weeks.  Thanks for the laughs!!
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: ducpainter on October 21, 2020, 03:17:58 AM
Quote from: Duck-Stew on October 18, 2020, 08:49:01 PM
It was inevitable.
Doesn't mean I have to like it.
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: koko64 on October 21, 2020, 12:30:48 PM
I was happy to see the belt drive go, but wished for fully gear driven cams like a Honda VFR, but desmo is special.
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: Speeddog on October 21, 2020, 06:10:45 PM
Is any modern legitimately street legal bike full gear drive?

I think the noise would be problematic to get past the specs.
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: kopfjäger on October 21, 2020, 06:44:23 PM
https://youtu.be/MwY7HOZv7Eo
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: Duck-Stew on October 21, 2020, 08:58:15 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on October 21, 2020, 03:17:58 AM
Doesn't mean I have to like it.

What should I do now?  I mean, now that I’m already off your lawn?  ;D
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: ducpainter on October 22, 2020, 03:10:59 AM
Quote from: Duck-Stew on October 21, 2020, 08:58:15 PM
What should I do now?  I mean, now that I’m already off your lawn?  ;D
:-* ;D
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: koko64 on October 22, 2020, 04:16:45 AM
Quote from: Speeddog on October 21, 2020, 06:10:45 PM
Is any modern legitimately street legal bike full gear drive?

I think the noise would be problematic to get past the specs.

I thought the VFR 750's, 400's & earlier 800's were expensive, exquisite gear driven cams? You can hear the gear whine which goes well with the V4 growl like a blown V8.

http://www.payneseal.com/images/vfr%20cam%20detail.jpg
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: Howie on October 22, 2020, 06:49:28 AM
You are correct about the VFRs, gear driven until...don' know.  Maybe for homologation?  Gear driven is both noisy and expensive. 
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: yamifixer on October 22, 2020, 09:07:38 AM
Quote from: howie on October 22, 2020, 06:49:28 AM
You are correct about the VFRs, gear driven until...don' know.  Maybe for homologation?  Gear driven is both noisy and expensive. 

i ride a M900. Noise and cost were never an issue
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: koko64 on October 22, 2020, 02:13:14 PM
Quote from: howie on October 22, 2020, 06:49:28 AM
You are correct about the VFRs, gear driven until...don' know.  Maybe for homologation?  Gear driven is both noisy and expensive. 

They used backlash gears to quiet them down a bit. We removed them for racing. They stopped gear driven cams at the variable timing VFR800 which didnt work too well. I think it was a two valve/four valve thing, not sure but dont care from all reports as Honda got too fancy for their own good. The gear driven 800 was a derivative of the RC45 design and excellent. The last version of the VFR750 was a beauty.

The desmosedici has gear driven cams and sounded great. I met a bloke who had one and it sounded wicked. He said his bike once got impounded and his licence was fragile. ;D
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: caperix on October 22, 2020, 03:33:38 PM
The rc 51 was gear drive as well.  The twins sound good with gear drive as well.  The newest ones are 14 years old now, so not super modern.
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: koko64 on October 22, 2020, 03:44:49 PM
Where did the time go?
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: ungeheuer on October 25, 2020, 03:11:16 PM
Valve.

Springs?

Well FMD.  I'm sure its a wonderful thing... but how is it in anyway... a Ducati engine?
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: stopintime on October 25, 2020, 04:11:14 PM
Quote from: ungeheuer on October 25, 2020, 03:11:16 PM
Valve.

Springs?

Well FMD.  I'm sure its a wonderful thing... but how is it in anyway... a Ducati engine?

I believe, by the L configuration more than the desmo.
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: Duck-Stew on October 25, 2020, 07:57:40 PM
Quote from: ungeheuer on October 25, 2020, 03:11:16 PM
Valve.

Springs?

Well FMD.  I'm sure its a wonderful thing... but how is it in anyway... a Ducati engine?

It’s always been a marketing thing...
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: ungeheuer on October 27, 2020, 12:04:26 PM
It's a Honda.
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: ducpainter on October 27, 2020, 02:08:46 PM
Agreed.
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: He Man on November 18, 2020, 09:02:34 AM
Sometimes you wonder if its cost driven, design driven, or marketing driven....
Title: Re: V4 Gran Turismo Multi
Post by: Charlie98 on November 23, 2020, 08:46:08 AM
QuoteThe last version of the VFR750 was a beauty.

Yes, it was.  I beat feet down to the Honda dealer to try to buy one of the last ones... but missed it.  I wound up with a CBR1000F instead.