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Moto Board => Tech => Topic started by: notjon on August 07, 2008, 06:31:33 PM

Title: How to remove seat if key doesn't work?
Post by: notjon on August 07, 2008, 06:31:33 PM
when i insert key into seat lock, and turn it, there is no tension
the cable (from underneath) does not appear to be pulling/engaging

is there a way for me to dismantle the rest of the undertail mud-guard to remove the seat?  either way, it will still be locked right? 

i have tried pulling on the cable itselt with no luck.  and i bent my key ;0
Title: Re: How to remove seat if key doesn't work?
Post by: He Man on August 07, 2008, 07:18:39 PM
what year/model is your bike?

On my carbe monster, i just stuck a screw driver in there. (by in there i mean wedged between the seat. not in the key hole.
on my monster, i just stuck a similar sized key driver in there (insided the keyhold) (masterlock key works)  (when i left my keys at home and the bike was in the garage).

Title: Re: How to remove seat if key doesn't work?
Post by: beethoven on August 07, 2008, 09:12:40 PM
Some models you DONT turn the key. There is a catch to lift once the key is inserted. Turning the key stuffs it.

Check your model and method of operation.
Title: Re: How to remove seat if key doesn't work?
Post by: Rameses on August 07, 2008, 09:38:47 PM
Regardless of model and year, if you can get to the cable under the seat you can unlatch it.

Use something like the key or a screwdriver to catch the cable itself, not the sheath on the cable.

By yanking the cable it will come unlatched.

You may have to push down on the top of the seat to get it to unlatch.
Title: Re: How to remove seat if key doesn't work?
Post by: Capo on August 08, 2008, 02:23:14 AM
The seat latch system consists of a pin with a slot in it connected to the seat, it mates with a latch assembly fixed to the frame, the latch (which is plastic) fits in the slot in the pin. The latch is withdrawn from the slot by means of a short bowden cable connected to the lock.

If you try to force this apart as has been suggested, you risk damaging the plastic latch.

The better solution is the one posted by Rameses.
Title: Re: How to remove seat if key doesn't work?
Post by: A.duc.H.duc. on August 08, 2008, 03:49:30 AM
Again, a lot of models you don't actually turn the key, you just put the key in the lock, and then there is a release lever on the underside.
Title: Re: How to remove seat if key doesn't work?
Post by: Jobu on August 08, 2008, 03:53:04 AM
Quote from: A.duc.H.duc. on August 08, 2008, 03:49:30 AM
Again, a lot of models you don't actually turn the key, you just put the key in the lock, and then there is a release lever on the underside.

He's got a '07 695 according to his last post.  Not sure how those work though.
Title: Re: How to remove seat if key doesn't work?
Post by: notjon on August 08, 2008, 05:13:21 PM
Quote from: Jobu on August 08, 2008, 03:53:04 AM
He's got a '07 695 according to his last post.  Not sure how those work though.

the stuck seat may be caused by the last modification :)
yes, 07 695

the cable itself , pulled with pliers seems to already be fully "extended" as in there is no tension when i pull on it
i'll try actually pushing down on the seat

thanks
Title: Re: How to remove seat if key doesn't work?
Post by: Rameses on August 08, 2008, 10:17:57 PM
Quote from: notjon on August 08, 2008, 05:13:21 PM
the stuck seat may be caused by the last modification :)
yes, 07 695

the cable itself , pulled with pliers seems to already be fully "extended" as in there is no tension when i pull on it
i'll try actually pushing down on the seat

thanks


When you're pulling on it with pliers are you pulling on the actual metal cable or on the outside sheath?

And are you pulling toward the lock or away from it?
Title: Re: How to remove seat if key doesn't work?
Post by: CTKurt on August 09, 2008, 08:06:51 AM
2in hole saw thru fender and i stick my finger in there and presto no more key. i have high pipes so the key thing was a PITA
Title: Re: How to remove seat if key doesn't work?
Post by: Rameses on August 09, 2008, 08:12:35 AM
Quote from: CTKurt on August 09, 2008, 08:06:51 AM
2in hole saw thru fender and i stick my finger in there and presto no more key. i have high pipes so the key thing was a PITA


Yeah, my high-mounts got in the way of the lock too.

That's why I know about hooking the cable with the end of the key.   [thumbsup]