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1100 EVO vs Street Triple R / Blasphemy?

Started by El-Twin, January 26, 2012, 08:51:25 AM

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thought

Quote from: El-Twin on February 02, 2012, 06:03:50 AM

Not one forum member felt that the metal vs plastic tank issue was a worthy selection criteria.  :o  ???


For the new monsters/ducs the plastic tank really isnt too big of an issue as the tank covers hide any cosmetic issues.  It's bad on the older duc's (older monsters, sbks, sc's) because when the tank swells it messes with the paint and the fitting of the tank itself.
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Curmudgeon

Quote from: El-Twin on February 02, 2012, 06:03:50 AM
This is what surprises me most about all of the responses:

Not one forum member felt that the metal vs plastic tank issue was a worthy selection criteria.  :o  ???

I think that this says a lot, but I'm not sure what. Brand loyalty?

Otherwise, thanks to the forum for a wealth of viewpoints and information.   :)  [thumbsup]

Can only speak for myself regarding the new Monsters with tank covers. At the time I purchased mine, my large dealer had replaced none of the newer Monster tanks. This may vary regionally. That was after three years of the newer tanks of course.

As a precaution I'm only running 93 pure gas in the bike which I can obtain ~ hour from here. Whenever I go out that way, I pick up 20 Gal. in race cans and stabilize it. Minor inconvenience since I've been buying race gas for my Morgan since new to blend. If and when I can no longer get 93 pure gas, I'll try K100 fuel treatment which appears to eliminate water from ethanol at normal levels.

Whatever the case, you are covered for 6 years from date of purchase if I read the settlement correctly. If I ever actually had to replace a tank, I'd just pick up a PEX tank from Europe. They cost a LOT less than the painted ones.

Your mileage may vary but I don't see it as a big deal. I passed on an S2R1K due to this issue because I knew it was a ticking time bomb and was glad I did because the handling of the new Monsters was closer to what I was after anyway.
2011 796 ABS "Pantah" - Rizoma Bar, 14T, Tech Spec, Ohlins DU-737, Evaps removed, Sargent Seat, Pantah skins

RC Fan

Quote from: El-Twin on February 02, 2012, 06:03:50 AM
This is what surprises me most about all of the responses:

Not one forum member felt that the metal vs plastic tank issue was a worthy selection criteria.  :o  ???

I think that this says a lot, but I'm not sure what. Brand loyalty?

One more reason you should buy the Street Triple R! [evil]
Cathy

Previous bikes:  2007 Suzuki Bandit 650S & 2009 Ducati Monster 696
Current bikes:  2009 Yamaha XT250 & 2012 Triumph Street Triple R

Curmudgeon

Quote from: RC Fan on February 02, 2012, 08:03:55 AM
One more reason you should buy the Street Triple R! [evil]

Troll?  8)

Can't wait for you to get yours so that you can start complaining about it. ;D And yes..., I've read through all your old pasts.  ;)
2011 796 ABS "Pantah" - Rizoma Bar, 14T, Tech Spec, Ohlins DU-737, Evaps removed, Sargent Seat, Pantah skins

RC Fan

Quote from: Curmudgeon on February 02, 2012, 08:13:20 AM
Troll?  8)

Can't wait for you to get yours so that you can start complaining about it. ;D And yes..., I've read through all your old pasts.  ;)

So I'm a troll because I disagree with you, or because I didn't find my Ducati perfect?  OK, whatever.
Cathy

Previous bikes:  2007 Suzuki Bandit 650S & 2009 Ducati Monster 696
Current bikes:  2009 Yamaha XT250 & 2012 Triumph Street Triple R

Curmudgeon

Quote from: RC Fan on February 02, 2012, 08:43:22 AM
So I'm a troll because I disagree with you, or because I didn't find my Ducati perfect?  OK, whatever.

From what I can gather, Ducati doesn't make a bike which is right for you. After 40 years in retail, selling vehicles nobody needed, I blame your dealer for selling you one.

Nevertheless, you don't own a Monster and aren't looking to buy another but you are still on the DMF why??? Just to muddy the water?

Will follow your experiences with your new Triumph on the R.A.T. Forum.  ;)
2011 796 ABS "Pantah" - Rizoma Bar, 14T, Tech Spec, Ohlins DU-737, Evaps removed, Sargent Seat, Pantah skins

El-Twin

Quote from: RC Fan on February 02, 2012, 08:43:22 AM
So I'm a troll because I disagree with you, or because I didn't find my Ducati perfect?  OK, whatever.
Peace! I know that RC Fan was just living vicariously, and that's ok with me.  [beer]
1961 Honda 50
1962 Mustang Thoroughbred
1972 Honda CB500 Four
2012 1100 evo

If I ever find myself on a winding road, holding up a line of cars with a motorcycle, I will carry the shame to my grave.   -PETER EGAN

DRKWNG

Quote from: Curmudgeon on February 02, 2012, 09:06:09 AM
Nevertheless, you don't own a Monster and aren't looking to buy another but you are still on the DMF why??? Just to muddy the water?

So?  I don't own a monster, and have zero intention of buying another one.  There are quite a few people on this board that this description can apply to; a lot of people come here for the community that exists, regardless of what they ride.

I for one would go for the STriple over the Evo.  And yes, the metal tank does factor into that decision.
And the sugar fountain fairy swore so hard when she came to super-size that stale hope soybean; liiiike a homeless German woman. Who is this super-sizing spirit-crushing femme? And tell her I'll break a tree root up in her shrimp.

Being faster than you thought possible…it feels good. No, screw thatâ€"it feels like shotgunning a gallon of adrenaline and chasing it with an all-night orgy aboard a burning Viking boat.

ducpainter

Quote from: Curmudgeon on February 02, 2012, 08:13:20 AM
Troll?  8)

Can't wait for you to get yours so that you can start complaining about it. ;D And yes..., I've read through all your old pasts.  ;)
Everyone is welcome in this forum whether they own a Duc or not.

Liking Triumphs doesn't make a person a troll.

If there were trolls involved I'd have to use this.



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duccarlos

Quote from: polivo on November 16, 2011, 12:18:55 PM
my keyboard just served me with paternity suit.

DRKWNG

And the sugar fountain fairy swore so hard when she came to super-size that stale hope soybean; liiiike a homeless German woman. Who is this super-sizing spirit-crushing femme? And tell her I'll break a tree root up in her shrimp.

Being faster than you thought possible…it feels good. No, screw thatâ€"it feels like shotgunning a gallon of adrenaline and chasing it with an all-night orgy aboard a burning Viking boat.

EvilSteve

Quote from: El-Twin on January 31, 2012, 01:10:34 PMHow did you finally sort it out? Does a 14T + Termi slip-ons + break in miles = fix?
You just learn the bike. I think there's more to it than it just being different, i.e. I think there's something particular to this bike that makes it more inclined to stall but you can work around it. The 14T helps but it's really only going to make a huge difference to a newer rider. I don't have anything else done except milage which probably helped a bit too.

I think, over all, the EVO is a fantastic bike that I wouldn't even consider getting rid of it, or picking an STR if the tank wasn't ridiculously small. I know I keep going on about it (sorry) but it's really got me thinking of trading it. My priorities are different from other people's and literally and figuratively speaking, YMMV.
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RC Fan

Cathy

Previous bikes:  2007 Suzuki Bandit 650S & 2009 Ducati Monster 696
Current bikes:  2009 Yamaha XT250 & 2012 Triumph Street Triple R

El-Twin

Quote from: RC Fan on February 07, 2012, 10:02:30 AM
Did you try the Evo again?

Yes, last weekend. Loved it.  [thumbsup]

Like night and day compared to the STR. Whereas the STR (which I also loved) delivers power in a seamless, linear fashion, like a fine Swiss watch, the EVO hammers out power in a in a rough-edged, angrier kind of way. With a pulse that's impossible to overlook.

True, tha gearing is too tall and the fueling is too lean, but those things can be fixed. The Monster, take it or leave it, is just not designed to be sold quite complete. It leaves enough blank canvas to fill-in to your own vision.

So the head says Triumph for being the "better" more complete machine, but the heart says the Duc. The heart wins.  [Dolph]
1961 Honda 50
1962 Mustang Thoroughbred
1972 Honda CB500 Four
2012 1100 evo

If I ever find myself on a winding road, holding up a line of cars with a motorcycle, I will carry the shame to my grave.   -PETER EGAN

RC Fan

Excellent!  They are both great bikes.  When are you picking it up, and posting some pictures?
Cathy

Previous bikes:  2007 Suzuki Bandit 650S & 2009 Ducati Monster 696
Current bikes:  2009 Yamaha XT250 & 2012 Triumph Street Triple R