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Independent Service? The Desert Desmo Thread

Started by Cloner, October 07, 2010, 12:28:16 PM

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DonJuanDucati

Same hose split, this time instead of at the nipple of the pump outlet, it split at the fuel filter nipple. Just cut it, got rid of the clamp, and put on a new worm gear clamp. Hopefully the hose will last long enough for me to ride it over. I'm thinking Monday evening (6pm ish) may be a good time for me to bring it over.

gfitzgi

Hey Stu or Scott,

I have a question for the maybe either of you when you have time.

I have always had false neutrals between every gear since I got my '03 620.  I know it is a common problem with a fair amount of Ducs, but they seem to be getting "wider".  Especially the one from 4th to 5th.  I have always wanted to go to the 6 speed any way, I am getting quickly to my 12k service and am wondering two things.

Can I adjust/shim the tranny I have to get the neutrals "smaller"?

Do you know what years 6 speed transmissions our fit my machine?

No huge rush, just always been a topic of curiosity for me, and with the gaps seeming easier to hit as the miles build I am hoping I am not going to "need" a new transmission too soon.

I have never done any transmission work before so know next to nothing about them.  I learn fast however, and am not afraid to tear anything apart.

Thanks for any help/suggestions.

Duck-Stew

Hey Scott,

There's a spring under the alternator cover which does get weak over time which could cause the issue you're having w/false neutrals.  The spring costs $5, but it's 1.2 hours to R&R.  While 'in there' we can set your shift mechanism to it's factory setting (if it's moved as they sometimes do) which will also help w/shifting...

As far as the 6-speed goes, it would be cheaper to buy a later model 620 engine (I have 1 BTW) which already has the 6-speed trans and the APTC slipper-clutch in it.

PM me and we can discuss motor swaps and services... [thumbsup]
Bike-less Portuguese immigrant enjoying life.

Zaster

Thank you for the chain and sprocket service with lifetime warranty to boot [thumbsup]

Cloner

Use them well, Karl.  I'm glad we could help you out!

For those not "in the know", Desert Desmo LLC is now an authorized Supersprox dealer.  If we supply and install a kit consisting of a Supersprox front sprocket, Supersprox rear sprocket, and quality RK or Isis chain, we can offer them with a LIFETIME warranty!  (nontransferable, of course, but still.......)  The next chain and sprockets you buy could literally be your last.  Get 'em while they're hot!!!
Never appeal to a man's "better nature."  He may not have one.  Invoking his self-interest gives you more leverage.  R.A. Heinlein

'64 Ducati Monza 250
'67 Aermacchi/HD Sprint SS (race bike)
'00 Aprilia RSV Mille
'03 Ducati 800 SS (race bike)
'04 KTM 450 EXC
'08 Kawasaki Ninja 250 (race bike)

DucMouse the Mighty

I would like to thank you guys for doing the swing arm for me



spankinâ,,¢

Copy. Calibration error = humidity, altitude, attitude to tutu, distraction from tutu, stereotype naked rat bikes, human error due to heat, tutu and jealousy!

JJ

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Quote from: DucMouse on November 14, 2011, 09:56:05 AM
I would like to thank you guys for doing the swing arm for me

Splendid! When we fly??? [Dolph]
Ride forever...

DonJuanDucati

Hey, just changed my oil and a found some small magnetic shavings on my plug. Very small, mostly dust sized. I didn't find any thing bigger in my filter and I didn't check the prefilter. From what I read this is just normal transmission wear?

Duck-Stew

Quote from: DonJuanDucati on March 27, 2012, 04:00:24 PM
Hey, just changed my oil and a found some small magnetic shavings on my plug. Very small, mostly dust sized. I didn't find any thing bigger in my filter and I didn't check the prefilter. From what I read this is just normal transmission wear?

Generally, a small to moderate amount of metallic 'dust' is normal.  When you get an excessive amount, or larger bits...  Then you have issues.

I wouldn't be concerned unless we're talking about a dust-ball larger than a dime.
Bike-less Portuguese immigrant enjoying life.

DonJuanDucati


Cloner

You're good to go, then.  Don't put 'em back in there, though.   ;)
Never appeal to a man's "better nature."  He may not have one.  Invoking his self-interest gives you more leverage.  R.A. Heinlein

'64 Ducati Monza 250
'67 Aermacchi/HD Sprint SS (race bike)
'00 Aprilia RSV Mille
'03 Ducati 800 SS (race bike)
'04 KTM 450 EXC
'08 Kawasaki Ninja 250 (race bike)

future rs

how much is the general time and cost of the valve check/adjustment? another 200 miles and ill be needing to get it done.

Duck-Stew

Quote from: future rs on March 28, 2012, 02:02:39 PM
how much is the general time and cost of the valve check/adjustment? another 200 miles and ill be needing to get it done.

Depends on the bike & motor.  Feel free to PM me here & we can discuss.

Stuart
Bike-less Portuguese immigrant enjoying life.

Cloner

How many miles on your 848 Beau?  I should remember, but I don't.

Anyway, it depends on whether you want a full service or just the valve check/adjustment.

The full service is 6 hours for minor service (7500 mi) and 8 hours for major (15000 mi) on your four valver.  We'll shave 30 minutes if you'll remove the side fairings for the minor and ALL the fairings (including the headlight fairing) for the major.  Labor is $76 per hour (including shop supplies) and parts are extra, though we pass along whatever discount we can, and we get a good deal on lots of things.

For either service you should expect the cost of oil, filter, and drain plug gasket at a minimum.  If it's a major service, or it's been more than two years since they were replaced,  you should expect to replace the timing belts.  We can get a set of those at such a good price that I'm not legally allowed to publish it on this or any forum.....but suffice it to say we get excellent pricing from California Cycleworks on their ExactFit belts.  For a major you'll also need new coolant and a prescreen gasket, and spark plugs are a good idea.  We check and change several other things, but their cost is included in the price of the service.

If you JUST want the valves checked, and wish to do the rest for yourself, we'll check the valves for 4 hours labor if you remove the fairings.  That four hours includes the cost of installing new belts (but not the cost of the belts themselves) if you want them changed, as we have to remove them to check the valves, anyway.

There are several other things we can do in addition to the standard service at your request.  The most common is a fork oil change that requires 1 hour additional labor if you want that done.

Holler when you're ready!
Never appeal to a man's "better nature."  He may not have one.  Invoking his self-interest gives you more leverage.  R.A. Heinlein

'64 Ducati Monza 250
'67 Aermacchi/HD Sprint SS (race bike)
'00 Aprilia RSV Mille
'03 Ducati 800 SS (race bike)
'04 KTM 450 EXC
'08 Kawasaki Ninja 250 (race bike)

future rs

its a 4 valver. im currently at 7300 miles.

ill be doing the belt/valves/and just a general check over on the bike (chain etc.)

i may concider the fork oil as well.

Oil was just changed 400 miles ago along with the clutch.