OK, someone needs to post a video of the incident so we can analyze it endlessly!   If what gm2 is saying is correct about Marquez not having total control, then I'd agree it's a racing incident. It didn't look that way to me, but then again, I only watched it a couple times.

Stoner and Rossi chiming in to support Marquez is funny. If he'd have done that to either of them, they'd both be crying...especially Stoner.

Quote from: Triple J on June 04, 2012, 10:10:19 AM
OK, someone needs to post a video of the incident so we can analyze it endlessly!  If what gm2 is saying is correct about Marquez not having total control, then I'd agree it's a racing incident. It didn't look that way to me, but then again, I only watched it a couple times.

to maintain the line once he got back under control was aggressive, yes.  but this is a race.  he definitely could not see pol and he was at the edge of the track, in front of pol.  he had the position. 

yet.. obviously pol was going much faster by then and really had nowhere to go.  sucks, but it's not like he, say, deliberately cut off someone's nose at the end of the front straight.

Quote from: gm2 on June 04, 2012, 10:21:10 AM
yet.. obviously pol was going much faster by then and really had nowhere to go.  sucks, but it's not like he, say, deliberately cut off someone's nose at the end of the front straight.

Yeah he did that one earlier in the race.  (No it wasn't a dick move but he tends to strafe across the front of someone literally the moment he clears their front wheel.)

Quote from: wantingaduc on June 04, 2012, 08:14:04 AM
The expression on the face of the yamaha prez when spies went down did not bode well at all for his contract next year.

I thought the same thing watching it on Speed.
It might have been the day that cost him his ride.

I agree that maybe "The Ben" should go back to WSBK, and hopefully take Hayden, Rossi and Colin with him.

What he said.

Quote from: wantingaduc on June 04, 2012, 08:14:04 AM
The expression on the face of the yamaha prez when spies went down did not bode well at all for his contract next year.

I thought the same thing watching it on Speed.
It might have been the day that cost him his ride.

I agree that maybe "The Ben" should go back to WSBK, and hopefully take Hayden, Rossi and Colin with him.

Yup... the only saving grace might be that he had the exact same expression when Lorenzo won.  haha

Quote from: Triple J on June 04, 2012, 10:10:19 AM
OK, someone needs to post a video of the incident so we can analyze it endlessly!  

Here you go....

http://www.speedtv.com/video/moto-racing/moto2-catalan-gp-2012-1671059717001


The incident starts @ 2:55 with the overhead view @ 3:30.  It's hard to not watch the whole highlight reel though; I dare ya to try...

looks like marques is the victim in all of this. Pol was off line going wide coming into the turn as well. Marques regained control and moved back slowly in control to the line where he wanted to be. Pol was all out of shape bouncing around before trying to stuff him out. Bad decision by Pol.

Quote from: thought on June 04, 2012, 12:22:26 PM
Yup... the only saving grace might be that he had the exact same expression when Lorenzo won.  haha

i said the same thing to gm2 earlier...

that said, when lorenzo won, he did give a little fist pump.

(he's really not a very expressive guy)

Quote from: derby on June 04, 2012, 03:58:30 PM
i said the same thing to gm2 earlier...

that said, when lorenzo won, he did give a little fist pump.

(he's really not a very expressive guy)

let's see, the right on-camera reaction that will help me keep jorge next year but pay him the least amount more than i absolutely have to is....

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/180446/1/motogp_podium_trio_give_views_on_marquez_clash.html

I really don't know who was at fault because, for example, when Jorge passed me [at that turn] it was a little different, but almost the same,” said Pedrosa. “I ran a little wide. I knew I left the door open. I didn't know if he was there, but I couldn't come back like no-one was there just in case.

“Maybe, yes, Pol was a little behind at that moment, but also Marquez has to be aware that if you leave the door open someone can get in. So it is difficult to say.”

Can't believe I agree with Pedrobot! 

What was in the buckets?

Incidente espargaró marquez moto 2 catalunya gp

Quote from: bobspapa on June 04, 2012, 04:53:03 PM
Incidente espargaró marquez moto 2 catalunya gp

that's a much better angle.

I definitely think it was intention

Quote from: ducpainter on June 04, 2012, 05:02:55 PM
that's a much better angle.

I definitely think it was intention

when played at a very slow speed....


speed it up to a normal pace and factor in that Marc just got passed.... just lost the front end.... and is still hanging off the bike....and it's very late in the race.... I dont see where he has time to think.... "cut Pol off."