So who is buying the new 15' MacBook pro?  Retina display, 2 thunderbolt port, USB (handles usb2 and usb3), sd card, 720p FaceTime camera, 256gb ssd (upgrade to 512gb an arm and a leg), no SuperDrive ?



No 17' laptop it looks like.  Why? Why?


Anyhow, who is getting it?

Quote from: ab on June 12, 2012, 08:01:52 PM
So who is buying the new 15' MacBook pro?  Retina display, 2 thunderbolt port, USB (handles usb2 and usb3), sd card, 720p FaceTime camera, 256gb ssd (upgrade to 512gb an arm and a leg), no SuperDrive ?

no included superdrive, but you can buy an external one.

Quote from: ab on June 12, 2012, 08:01:52 PM

No 17' laptop it looks like.  Why? Why?

the 17in was their worst seller and the 15in w/ retina display has higher resolution...

Quote from: ab on June 12, 2012, 08:01:52 PM

Anyhow, who is getting it?

me! (maybe)

Already placed my order for the fully rigged 15". Also got the new Thunderchicken display.  I've been planning this upgrade for over a year.

Being a student got me about $500 off as well as a $100 gift card to ITMS.

External burner - not really a fan.  I understand the trend is towards storage in the cloud.  They also want to push iTunes movies etc and cloud and therefore no need of the SuperDrive.  

Fully geared rig with 512gb Ssd.  Wow that's insane price.  

I am contemplating as my 2006 mbp is; oh never mind, I can't afford it.

Does the retina necessarily mean more work space? Somehow I doubt it.  

 17' mbp being dropping is another alienation of the pro market from what I hear and tend to believe.   Next they will be dropping the macpro?  Wouldn't surprise me.

Price of mountain lion upgrade is sweet at $20.  


The ios6 feature of do not disturb and with custom exception is great.  Being oncall for I.T, I sure can use that. If only the iPhone ringer was LOUDER.

Quote from: ab on June 13, 2012, 04:19:42 AM
External burner - not really a fan.  I understand the trend is towards storage in the cloud.  They also want to push iTunes movies etc and cloud and therefore no need of the SuperDrive. 

honestly, the only time i use my superdrive is when i need to burn server install media for work (and i should really just put that stuff on a usb stick, instead).

Quote from: ab on June 13, 2012, 04:19:42 AM

Fully geared rig with 512gb Ssd.  Wow that's insane price. 

I am contemplating as my 2006 mbp is; oh never mind, I can't afford it.

yup, even crazier w/ the 768gb ssd.

Quote from: ab on June 13, 2012, 04:19:42 AM

Does the retina necessarily mean more work space? Somehow I doubt it. 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5998/macbook-pro-retina-display-analysis

Retina Display MBP owners now get a slider under OS X's Display Preferences that allow you to specify desktop resolutions other than 1440 x 900. At 1440 x 900 you don't get any increase in usable desktop resolution compared to a standard 15-inch MacBook Pro, but everything is ridiculously crisp. If you're like me however and opted for the 1680 x 1050 "high-res" upgrade last generation, this won't do. Thankfully Apple offers 1680 x 1050 and 1920 x 1200 scaling options that trade a bit of image quality and performance for added real estate. The gallery below gives you a look at the five settings.




regarding the 17in, i would've loved the 1920x1080 resolution, but i never bought one because it was too big/heavy... a 4.4lb 15in (lighter than the old 13in model) w/ higher resolution than the discontinued 17in? i don't see what the issue is.

Quote from: ab on June 13, 2012, 04:19:42 AM

17' mbp being dropping is another alienation of the pro market from what I hear and tend to believe.   Next they will be dropping the macpro?  Wouldn't surprise me.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/connieguglielmo/2012/06/12/apple-says-new-models-designs-for-imac-mac-pro-in-works-due-in-2013/

Quote from: ab on June 13, 2012, 04:19:42 AM

Price of mountain lion upgrade is sweet at $20. 

yup... iirc, this is the third os upgrade they've offered at that price point.

Quote from: ab on June 13, 2012, 04:19:42 AM

The ios6 feature of do not disturb and with custom exception is great.  Being oncall for I.T, I sure can use that. If only the iPhone ringer was LOUDER.

so looking forward to this feature.

The loaded 15" isn't cheap, but I got 4 years out of my current MBP and will get 4 out of the next one. I really need the 16GB of memory since I regularly run 2-3 virtual machines to simulate client environments. And with 4 cores, I'm sure I can also use it as a hot plate.

gettin one fa sho!

Quote from: sugarcrook on June 13, 2012, 08:57:05 AM
The loaded 15" isn't cheap, but I got 4 years out of my current MBP and will get 4 out of the next one. I really need the 16GB of memory since I regularly run 2-3 virtual machines to simulate client environments. And with 4 cores, I'm sure I can also use it as a hot plate.

fwiw, people generally over provision memory (and cpu) for virtual machines.

<~~~ virtualization architect

Quote from: derby on June 13, 2012, 09:25:09 AM
<~~~ virtualization architect

so...YOU are the Matrix ?!?!?!

Quote from: zooom on June 13, 2012, 09:26:34 AM
so...YOU are the Matrix ?!?!?!

Quote from: derby on June 13, 2012, 09:25:09 AM
fwiw, people generally over provision memory (and cpu) for virtual machines.

That's probably valid. But I don't want my VMs to feel all boxed in.

Quote from: sugarcrook on June 13, 2012, 11:46:12 AM
That's probably valid. But I don't want my VMs to feel all boxed in.

hehe... you can actually over-provision them to the point of all guests losing performance. more-so with cpu than memory (since the hypervisor has to schedule processors whether they're being actively used or not).

Love the ideas behind em, can't stand the prices.
And with companies rapidly dropping ultrabooks, hard to pay the Apple prices.
I ended up with an HP 2560p with a core i7, 16GB of RAM, 256GB SSD for roughly half the price of even a slightly upgraded MacBook Air 13. Granted, it isn't as light (3.5lbs is still plenty light to me) but it will run circles around most similar sized machines in performance ability.

Not anti mac by any means. I am anti-you pay way too much for the hardware you get. I feel the same way about the over-priced Windows based ultrabooks.

As for VMs, my policy is always to start smaller than what I think I will need and I will usually be fine. Hehe. Although my primary AV app server (VM) is a resource hog no matter VM or physical box.

Mot me, I have a macbook pro and it's fine.  I don't care about retina display.  The bread crumb trail is getting long......

Quote from: muskrat on June 13, 2012, 04:27:04 PM
Mot me, I have a macbook pro and it's fine.  I don't care about retina display.  The bread crumb trail is getting long......

they still have the "old tech" macbook pro there for ya...