Quote from: duccarlos on June 15, 2012, 07:24:57 AM
Where else would he go? Ducati? No way. The day Repsol does not offer him a contract is the day he retires.

he won't retire...he'll go yachting for a year and look for a spot while wooing sponsors on the water....

With his flippy floppies?

Quote from: zooom on June 15, 2012, 07:42:56 AM
he won't retire...he'll go yachting for a year and look for a spot while wooing sponsors on the water....

Can he cheat at that?

Eric Cartman - Come Sail Away

Rookie rule dropped in 2013:

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/motogp-rookie-rule-marc-marquez-201/

I guess they are going to reverse the "no 2 spanish riders" statement they made before?

As much as Repsol would want the 2 Spaniard team...HRC on the other hand doesn't want to pigeon-hole their marketing like that.
I think if they sign Marquez, Dani is out at HRC/Repsol (maybe to a factory bike in satellite livery?). Of course, HRC/Repsol has run 3 bikes before...

4 bikes per manufacturer rule still pending. So do you fire a guy that is comfortably in third place in the championship and will be, arguably, the second fastest guy next year, and replace him with a kid that is not even winning the Moto2 championship this year?

Quote from: duccarlos on June 18, 2012, 08:52:50 AM
4 bikes per manufacturer rule still pending. So do you fire a guy that is comfortably in third place in the championship and will be, arguably, the second fastest guy next year, and replace him with a kid that is not even winning the Moto2 championship this year?

Exactly. They can't fire Pedrobot but I do see them running an all Spanish team, it would be unthinkable not to give Marquez a factory seat, he's too talented and if thy don't offer it, someone else will

Quote from: El Matador on June 18, 2012, 09:40:39 AM
Exactly. They can't fire Pedrobot but I do see them running an all Spanish team, it would be unthinkable not to give Marquez a factory seat, he's too talented and if thy don't offer it, someone else will

That will depend on how much pressure Repsol can put on HRC. I would think that HRC will retract their stance on the whole Spanish only team. I will hate to see the other guys, like Luthi, Espargaro and Iannone, be forced into CRT or kept in Moto2 for lack of rides.

Quote from: duccarlos on June 18, 2012, 11:38:09 AM
That will depend on how much pressure Repsol can put on HRC. I would think that HRC will retract their stance on the whole Spanish only team. I will hate to see the other guys, like Luthi, Espargaro and Iannone, be forced into CRT or kept in Moto2 for lack of rides.

Do you really think any of those guys deserve the factory ride over Marquez?

Iannone is just completely inconsistent. He can either ride
Like a bat out of hell or come 16th.

Luthi is just unmarketable, and though he is talented, he really hasn't shown anything to prove that he can hang with the big boys.

Espargaro is good. His only problem is that he's basically an older, lesser talented version Marquez. He will probably just end up like his older brother doing nothing really In the GP class

You can't really argue with the fact that Marquez  the  next Lorenzo.  Out of  everybody in the moto 2 class he is by far the most promising. All he has to do is not kill himself in the process and he'll be a star in GP.

Quote from: El Matador on June 19, 2012, 06:38:51 AM
Iannone is just completely inconsistent. He can either ride
Like a bat out of hell or come 16th.
Actually, his consistency this year has him 4th in the World Championship. 6 races so far this year and only 1 finish out of the top 5. I would have agreed with you last year though.

Luthi is just unmarketable, and though he is talented, he really hasn't shown anything to prove that he can hang with the big boys.
Really? Have you even watched anyone BUT Marquez this year? If it wasn't for the cockbag move Marquez pulled at Qatar, Luthi would be leading the points, not Marquez. Marquez can ride. That is most definitely not the question but he isn't the end all/be all you are making him out to be.

Espargaro is good. His only problem is that he's basically an older, lesser talented version Marquez. He will probably just end up like his older brother doing nothing really In the GP class
Funny that this mirrors the sentiment above but if he hadn't been punted off track by Douchey Marcockz, he would be right up there with Luthi and Marquez fighting for first.

You can't really argue with the fact that Marquez  the  next Lorenzo.  Out of  everybody in the moto 2 class he is by far the most promising. All he has to do is not kill himself in the process and he'll be a star in GP.
You can't? Maybe YOU can't but arguments can be made for a half dozen other Moto2 riders easily. Your same argument can be argued for Marquez. There are loads of instances where a 125/250/Moto2 champion couldn't do shit with a MotoGP bike. People who dominated in a far more commanding manner than Marquez ever has who got on the big bike and spent more time as a back marker than in the top 5. Can it happen? Of course it can. But my scenario is far more likely than yours. But I bet the Kool-Aid is far more purple in yours.

The only thing we an't argue about is that Marquez has the marketing might of Repsol behind him. His staying in Moto2 this year has basically done what we predicted would happen, he has not dominated and hence his stock has lowered, except in the Repsol eyes. When Bradtl moved up, everyone was ready to hand Marquez the title, even before Qatar. I will agree that Marquez is the most marketable and that's the reason Repsol are desperate to bring him up. They are hoping that he will become what they expected Pedrosa to be. Instead they bet on the wrong horse, should have gone for Lorenzo. Now, if someone other than Marquez wins the championship, where do you put them? It won't be a factory team and most likely not even a satellite team. That delegates them to a strong CRT team, probably one of the ARTs.

Exactly Carlos.

I liken Marquez to Pedrosa more than Lorenzo. He is a golden boy but isn't going to be much more than the also ran that Pedo-bot has become. How many titles has Pedrosa taken in the top class now? Exactly.

Quote from: El Matador on June 19, 2012, 06:38:51 AM
Do you really think any of those guys deserve the factory ride over Marquez?

You can't really argue with the fact that Marquez  the  next Lorenzo.  Out of  everybody in the moto 2 class he is by far the most promising. All he has to do is not kill himself in the process and he'll be a star in GP.

Although Marquez does seem to be the most deserving (i.e. potential) Moto2 rider, I agree with the others that he's more like Pedrosa than Lorenzo. A Repsol golden boy. We'll see what he can do in GP...hopefully he's good. Someone is going to need to challenge JLo with Stoner gone.

I also think Luthi, Redding, and Esparago could be good as well. Ianone maybe, but like you said, he's inconsistent.

I didn't think Bradl was all that good though...and he's having a very nice year in GP so far.

Plus...

Marquez is a douchebag.

Quote from: Triple J on June 19, 2012, 12:39:54 PM
Although Marquez does seem to be the most deserving (i.e. potential) Moto2 rider, I agree with the others that he's more like Pedrosa than Lorenzo. A Repsol golden boy. We'll see what he can do in GP...hopefully he's good. Someone is going to need to challenge JLo with Stoner gone.

Quote from: ducpainter on June 19, 2012, 12:48:28 PM
Marquez is a douchebag.

Wait...are we seriously arguing over which douchebag Spaniard is the *biggest douchebag*?