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Monsterlover

#720
June 18, 2012, 06:07:01 PM
You're welcome anytime :)
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

Got Duc

#721
June 18, 2012, 07:13:32 PM
Thanks!

Might have to take you up on that.
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Oldfisti

#722
June 21, 2012, 12:00:43 PM
Hey Kevin,

How would you feel about chucking up a SSS hub/spindle and putting it on a diet?

With all the extra time you have of course...

;D
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#723
June 21, 2012, 12:13:22 PM
Quote from: alfisti on June 21, 2012, 12:00:43 PM
Hey Kevin,

How would you feel about chucking up a SSS hub/spindle and putting it on a diet?

Back 'a the line! Ben wants suspenders or some such nonsense... Then there's the real goodies - a shifter for KTMs
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Monsterlover

#724
June 21, 2012, 12:47:22 PM
Quote from: alfisti on June 21, 2012, 12:00:43 PM
Hey Kevin,

How would you feel about chucking up a SSS hub/spindle and putting it on a diet?

With all the extra time you have of course...

;D

I could do that. Id measure it up, you tell me what the new numbers should be and ill cut it.

Providing you release me from any liability.  If it snaps off because its too thin and you run into a flatbed carrying running wood chippers ...

I never knew you.

;)
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

DRKWNG

#725
June 21, 2012, 12:49:25 PM
Quote from: Slide Panda on June 21, 2012, 12:13:22 PM
Back 'a the line! Ben wants suspenders or some such nonsense... Then there's the real goodies - a shifter for KTMs


Suppressors. 

Kev, make suppressors.
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#726
June 21, 2012, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on June 21, 2012, 12:47:22 PM
I could do that. Id measure it up, you tell me what the new numbers should be and ill cut it.

Providing you release me from any liability.  If it snaps off because its too thin and you run into a flatbed carrying running wood chippers ...

I never knew you.

;)
What's the possibility of that in upstate NY?  ;D

you need a better lawyer. [laugh]
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lethe

#727
June 21, 2012, 04:59:24 PM
when I go there in a week, we're making a working Iron Man suit
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Monsterlover

#728
June 21, 2012, 05:06:43 PM
I already ordered the red paint [thumbsup]
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

lethe

#729
June 21, 2012, 05:07:49 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on June 21, 2012, 05:06:43 PM
I already ordered the red paint [thumbsup]
orange for this one  [laugh]
'05 Monster 620
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ducatiz

#730
June 21, 2012, 05:34:35 PM
Quote from: DRKWNG on June 21, 2012, 12:49:25 PM
Suppressors. 

Kev, make suppressors.

He just needs to apply for a Class 2 SOT and pay the fee and per item tax after being approved.  Takes about 3-6 months total for the background check.  He's in PA and shouldn't have any problem from the local LEO for signoff, the bigger issue is whether the workplace is fully securable, has an alarm, and other active security measures.  Most small Class 2 manufacturers just buy a save and lock finished components up at the end of the day.
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Monsterlover

#731
June 21, 2012, 05:49:40 PM
SOT?

Our area is locked, of course. The building were in has 24hr security. 

I found out a past tenant made variable recoil systems for 50cal snipers. Iron particles in an oil that would change viscosity with electric current. A chip in the stock would monitor recoil and adjust dampening as needed.

Something better came along I guess.

I haven't done a lot or research yet on making firearm parts. Looks like an FFL is in order if we go that route.
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

ducatiz

#732
June 21, 2012, 05:58:01 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on June 21, 2012, 05:49:40 PM
SOT?

Our area is locked, of course. The building were in has 24hr security. 

I found out a past tenant made variable recoil systems for 50cal snipers. Iron particles in an oil that would change viscosity with electric current. A chip in the stock would monitor recoil and adjust dampening as needed.

Something better came along I guess.

I haven't done a lot or research yet on making firearm parts. Looks like an FFL is in order if we go that route.

SOT = special occupation taxpayer.  The IRS has special taxes for certain occupations, i.e. firearm, tobacco and alcohol manufacturers.  Generally, it's a fee to get the license and then a per-item tax once made.

You only need an FFL if you're making regulated components, i.e. firearm receivers, suppressors or ammunition.  If you wanted to make barrels, you don't need a license, even SBR barrels.. Muzzle devices other than suppressors, non-regulated components like AR uppers, etc.

I can walk you thru it if you're interested.  It's a lot of paperwork.  The security requirements are well above and beyond the regular sort of commercial security.  For instance ONLY the bonded individuals and named employees can have access to the secured area, so if your landlord has access that is disallowed.  That's why most FFls get a big safe.  ONLY the SOT/FFL holder and immediate employees can have access.
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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

Monsterlover

#733
June 21, 2012, 06:17:01 PM
I would definitely be interested in learning more about the process. I think we'll do the ffl so Ben can have his suppressor.

I rather be covered to make whatever we want than be limited.

So even with the ffl there's a per piece tax on suppressors?  Cost?

I'm starting to think a good deal of suppressor cost is tax passed on to the end user... who's taxed themselves when they buy it.

I could probably bang (lol, see what I did there?) one out of aluminum for less than $100 in manufacturing and material cost. 
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

ducatiz

#734
June 21, 2012, 06:31:27 PM
you pay the sot tax once a yearin July.  the per item tax is a transfer tax.  buyers usually pay it.

you will need an ffl type 7 and then approval for a  class 2 on top of the ffl.  that's for manufacture only.  to sell to non ffl you need a type 1 ffl.
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.
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