iltl32 - got a link to the CL ad?

Quote from: Silver King on June 19, 2012, 10:48:43 AM
some of us mouth breathing, knuckle dragging, window licking Luddites ...

You forgot 'Scruffy looking'

Quote from: Slide Panda on June 19, 2012, 11:05:56 AM
You forgot 'Scruffy looking nerf herder'

fixed

Monster became fuel injected in 2002 when the 620 came out. By 2005 the S2R s, also had plastic tanks I believe. So if that bike has carbs and metal tank, for sure is not a 2005 for what I understan.

Quote from: Juan on June 21, 2012, 02:14:57 PM
Monster became fuel injected in 2002 when the 620 came out. By 2005 the S2R s, also had plastic tanks I believe. So if that bike has carbs and metal tank, for sure is not a 2005 for what I understan.

M900 was fuel injected beginning in 2000.

And some bikes made in early 2005 had metal tanks

Quote from: Slide Panda on June 21, 2012, 05:52:50 PM
And some bikes made in early 2005 had metal tanks

The only one I know of was the S2R dark, do you know of another?

They used the same tank as the first year S4R

Early 620s. Some 05 620s still had the 4 pot calipers too. Basically 04s production/spec that carried to early 05

same tank.  makes sense.

Quote from: iltl32 on June 19, 2012, 07:16:11 AM
I'm looking at a used Monster on Craigslist. The guys says it's a 2005 Monster S2R 800 (not a Dark model). But he said it's carbed, and everywhere I look says that the 05 S2R should have fuel injection. Am I missing something?

Bonus question: did this model come with a steering damper from the factory?

skipping to the end because i either missed it or no one has mentioned it...look for the single side swing arm. if it doesn't have one, its most likely not an S2R anything (again, custom work excepted.)

so, if it's not an S2R...........seller is either a crook or a fool.

what are dellortos? are those awesome carbs? i am going to google that sh!t

Quote from: showerfan on June 21, 2012, 10:09:52 PM
what are dellortos? are those awesome carbs? i am going to google that sh!t

In my experience Dellortos were worse than Bings, which, in turn, were worse than Amals.  Someone may have a different outlook but running any of those three was an instant incentive to figure out some way to get a Mikuni or Keihin to work on the bike.

Quote from: showerfan on June 21, 2012, 10:09:52 PM
what are dellortos? are those awesome carbs? i am going to google that sh!t

Malossi made a kit a fews years back for Monsters and SS's that consisted of Dellorto carbs and new manifolds - no idea on the quality / perfomance gains but they seem to be rare.

I'm looking for a body part / relative to sell to get me some FCR's 

Funny you mention FCRs.  I was thinking that could have (if it was converted to carbs) been the carbs it was converted to.

JM

Quote from: showerfan on June 21, 2012, 10:09:52 PM
what are dellortos? are those awesome carbs? i am going to google that sh!t

dellorto PHM/PHF carbs were the choice for older bikes thru the 80s such as the Pantahs and old Guzzis. 

DP sold a kit for the 1992-1998 Supersport and Monster with short manifolds -- right alongside the FCR kit in the same DP catalog! They are pumper carbs with a round slide.  Somewhat difficult to tune by modern standards. 

They were the upgrade of choice for Paso 750 or Nuovo Sports.

FCRs are more modern and superior.  Even if you coat the dellorto slide in an SFL, it wont move as easily as the roller-bearing mounted slide in the FCR.  FCR is much easier to tune as well.

Quote from: MacDuck on June 21, 2012, 10:55:14 PM
In my experience Dellortos were worse than Bings, which, in turn, were worse than Amals.  Someone may have a different outlook but running any of those three was an instant incentive to figure out some way to get a Mikuni or Keihin to work on the bike.

i haven't found them much different to tweak than either the Bings or Amals.  The Amal has one less circuit and is a function copy of the PH series,  The Bing CVs were copies of the Mikuni BDSTs and a later design, but the older 53-55 and 80 series were just copies of the Dellorto PH series.  The difference is that Dellortos were used on 100x as many bikes as either the Bings or the Amals and there are far more aftermarket stuff to "fix" them...