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kopfjäger

June 29, 2012, 06:52:29 PM
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ducatigirl100

#1
June 29, 2012, 07:01:37 PM
I would like to remind everyone that lance NEVER tested positive to anyting  [thumbsup]

kopfjäger

#2
June 29, 2012, 07:16:07 PM
Quote from: ducatigirl100 on June 29, 2012, 07:01:37 PM
I would like to remind everyone that lance NEVER tested positive to anyting  [thumbsup]

Read 'Optimum Sports Nutrition' Dr Michael Colgan said any biochemist worth his weight, can beat any drug test..  ;)
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stateprez

#3
June 30, 2012, 06:14:06 PM
Even with drugs, winning 7 times in a row is a remarkable achievement.  I was a big Lance fan circa 2000, and probably still would be despite the allegations if he didn't act like such a vindictive ass. 

Livestrong is a great organization, and I'd be more worried about the effects on it.  The past decade of TdF's have been so tainted with Landis, Contador, Armstrong, Festina, that no one will care, just like the steroid era of baseball.

My $.02 anyway.

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ducatigirl100

#4
June 30, 2012, 08:17:07 PM
I think that is 7 wins came more out of the fact that he was almost dead and now he is alive.  [thumbsup]

RAT900

#5
June 30, 2012, 11:08:25 PM
gotta love the media....

folks put someone on a pedestal

and the news hands out the rocks and bottles for us to hurl at them
This is an insult to the Pez community

kopfjäger

#6
June 30, 2012, 11:43:15 PM
"USADA says it has at least 10 former Armstrong teammates and associates who will testify against the cyclist, and blood samples from 2009 and 2010 that are ‘‘fully consistent’’ with blood doping."
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ducpainter

#7
July 01, 2012, 06:53:37 AM
Quote from: kopfjäger on June 30, 2012, 11:43:15 PM
"USADA says it has at least 10 former Armstrong teammates and associates who will testify against the cyclist, and blood samples from 2009 and 2010 that are ‘‘fully consistent’’ with blood doping."

How much would it cost to get them to testify against a different cyclist?

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muskrat

#8
July 01, 2012, 07:07:56 AM
I'm betting he will beat the charges.  The media glorifies and then destroys.  I guess they can't let stand a hero for too long or they simply ran out of news worthy events.
Can we thin the gene pool? 

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Greg

#9
July 01, 2012, 12:32:24 PM
The only thing I like about Lance these days is that he pisses of the French. I personally believe he doped. On the one hand I admire the guy for his come back against cancer, and on the other I despise him for dumping people when they in turn got sick.
if you Google Livestrong you will find that they no longer fund cancer research and seem to exist mainly to promote Lance himself.

I think his days are done.
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Ddan

#10
July 01, 2012, 12:57:48 PM
Quote from: Greg on July 01, 2012, 12:32:24 PM

if you Google Livestrong you will find that they no longer fund cancer research and seem to exist mainly to promote Lance himself.

I think his days are done.
I did, the published numbers don't really support your statement.

http://www.livestrong.org/

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Greg

#11
July 01, 2012, 03:08:26 PM
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koko64

#12
July 01, 2012, 04:28:33 PM
Clean or full of gear, he still would have been champ. You cant take that away from him. Only a small minority are totally clean at the elite level in many sports. I know this from experience in strength sports. Had to choose between the size of my balls and the size of the trophies.

Not saying its right, just how it is.
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Ddan

#13
July 01, 2012, 05:55:01 PM
Quote from: Greg on July 01, 2012, 03:08:26 PM
Try this one

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/athletes/lance-armstrong/Its-Not-About-the-Lab-Rats.html?page=all

It's an interesting article that brings up some questions, but almost everything in it could be spun any way you like.

Quote from: koko64 on July 01, 2012, 04:28:33 PM
Clean or full of gear, he still would have been champ. You cant take that away from him. Only a small minority are totally clean at the elite level in many sports. I know this from experience in strength sports. Had to choose between the size of my balls and the size of the trophies.

Not saying its right, just how it is.
+1.  The guy accomplished something amazing, and he's using that fame to not only help himself but lots of other people, too.
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Randimus Maximus

#14
July 01, 2012, 06:18:43 PM
My take on it is this...

Going after Lance in the manner that a number of agencies have/are will only result in a slap on the wrist, if that.

Marion Jones - 6 months.

Barry Bonds - 30 days house arrest.

Roger Clemens - Acquitted.

I'm sure there are others.

Time and resources are better spent elsewhere, IMHO.
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